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A slight aside here....

Here's are a couple of articles relating to the attempted kidnap in 1992, of Suzy Lamplugh's youngest sibling.

At the time she was living in the St Clements area of Oxford.

But it's not her potential French abductor that's particularly interesting; it's the location at which the attempted abduction took place.

What relevance does this have to the Suzy's Lamplugh's abduction?

Well, it may be more relevant than we realise.

I am currently trying to work out what road in St Clements, Oxford, that the attempted abduction took place in, because there is another little nugget of data that I've found that may be connected.

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  • #582
A slight aside here....

Here's are a couple of articles relating to the attempted kidnap in 1992, of Suzy Lamplugh's youngest sibling.

At the time she was living in the St Clements area of Oxford.

But it's not her potential French abductor that's particularly interesting; it's the location at which the attempted abduction took place.

What relevance does this have to the Suzy's Lamplugh's abduction?

Well, it may be more relevant than we realise.

I am currently trying to work out what road in St Clements, Oxford, that the attempted abduction took place in, because there is another little nugget of data that I've found that may be connected.

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Boulters St according to Yorkshire Post article in 93 - can you give any more detail?
 
  • #583
I think it was Boulter Street (rather than Boulters).
 
  • #584
I've always wondered if the young French kidnapper was ever released. He was sentenced to an indefinite period in a mental hospital over thirty years ago, but was he released, or is he still a patient somewhere in the UK today in his mid 50s?
 
  • #585
What's the significance other than that they appear to be a desperately unlucky family?
 
  • #586
Implications of and inferences from, facts and evidence is the principle method by which difficult cases are solved. As the expert on here was at pains to point out in earlier threads, cases are rarely clear cut and it's often the totality of inferential evidence that convinces a jury. The totality of the evidence around the keys indicates strongly that they went missing with SL.

Having said that, it is also highly unlikely that between estate agent and client, there was ever only one set of keys knocking around. The client would almost certainly have had at least a set. Whether they were to hand or not, I couldn't say. On balance, it does seem not in the first instance, hence officers given the order to "enter".
If it's the "expert" I'm thinking of, he got suspended a few times and finally banned because he couldn't stop insulting people who disagreed with him. I wouldn't place too much weight there.

The owner of 37SR was a helicopter pilot working in the middle east. As an expat, the faff of getting hold of a spare set of keys off him is probably not to be underestimated. It's surprising nobody recalls it, that another set was so easily found and that nobody recalls changing the locks. If you lost a set of house keys with nothing attached to them to indicate the address, you just need a new set of keys. If you lose a set of keys and someone does know what house they're for, you'd need to change all those locks. If you were burgled later having not done this, your insurance would not pay out.
 
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I've always wondered if the young French kidnapper was ever released. He was sentenced to an indefinite period in a mental hospital over thirty years ago, but was he released, or is he still a patient somewhere in the UK today in his mid 50s?
& @WestLondoner a young, mentally ill, French army deserter seeking only to end own life & acting alone. How might his location be relevant? Interested to hear more @Rookie D

Lizzie staying cool & being able to give him the slip testament to her mother’s excellent advice in this area no doubt. The Trust a fantastic legacy for SL.
 
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Boulters St according to Yorkshire Post article in 93 - can you give any more details?
Boulter Street is interesting because it is a cul-de-sac that backs onto the River Cherwell; quite literally.

The next street east of that is Bath Street; again a dead-end road that backs onto the river, but there's also a small foot bridge that runs over the river and allows someone on foot to gain access to Angel and Greyhound meadow; a green space sandwiched between 2 branches of the river Cherwell.

The next road along is Cave street; yet another cul-de-sac.

But what I find really interesting is that the next street along is "Cherwell Street."

Cherwell Street could be relevant because in 2003 a man named "Kipper" was living there; towards the far river end of the street.

What's interesting about this Mr Kipper, is that it's a sole entry into the electoral roll, and I can't seem to locate him anywhere else.

I know his first name, and I know the house he lived in too, but I am not sure I am permitted to state that publicly on this forum, so unless I get clearance from site Admin, then my hands are obviously tied.
And of course, if he's a genuine innocent party, then I don't want to into any legal trouble by saying his first name and exact address.
Especially if he STILL lives there!!!

While it may be sheer coincidence, I hypothesise that the the entry for a Mr Kipper in Suzy's diary, was a genuine entry.

Could it be that this Mr Kipper who I have found lived in Cherwell Road in 2003, and who resided just a few streets from where Suzy's sister was nearly abducted (albeit by a 20 year old French lunatic) in 1992, have deliberately moved into the area and stayed briefly, so as to be close to the area in which Suzy's sister went through her ordeal?

Could the Mr Kipper who lived in Cherwell Street be the man who abducted Suzy?

What's also interesting, is that the building that Mr Kipper lived in, was AFAIK owned and let out by a company called Hampton International.

They are an international estate agent and broker firm with offices all over the world.


They also have offices in London, and at the time of Suzy's disappearance, they appear to have been going through a significant expansion into the international market.

They have an office in Oxford, and in London, as well as several other countries.


Could Suzy have been involved with a deal that was far bigger than she could handle, and was she being held to ransom in some way?

It's all conjecture and speculation, but I find that thinking outside the box, can often open up new avenues of inquiry.


What I would also say, is that it seems that Elizabeth Lamplugh may have just left secondary school when her sister went missing.
Could the man who abducted Suzy have used her as leverage against her sister, and could Elizabeth have been a target who Suzy tried to protect?

If I was involved with the team investigating this case, I would look at whether there's any sign of Suzy's remains in the river Cherwell and surrounding area of Oxford.

I say this because what better way for a killer to relive his fantasy, than to return to the deposition site for a short term rental lease in a property on Cherwell Street.

Lots to consider here.

Again, I may be talking complete and utter gibberish, but I think it's healthy to steer away from the confirmation bias involved with JC.

Could Suzy be in Oxford?
 

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