UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[lee sumner]

Hi all.


Random hypothesis alert...


So I've been thinking...


Suzy drove her company car to work, which she then used around 12.40pm to go to Shorrolds Road.

However, there was apparently another employee of Sturgis who had used the same company car earlier.

Which means that staff at Sturgis Fulham had access to that Fiesta.

So that means that SL must of had her flat keys on a separate key fob to the keys for the Fiesta.

Otherwise, she would in theory be allowing all other staff members to have access to her own flat.

So the question is; who was the staff member who drove the Fiesta BEFORE SL needed to use it for Shorrolds Road, and where did the other staff member drive the Fiesta to?

If the staff member for example had driven to a client in Stevenage Road, it may explain why the car was seen there as early as 12.45pm.

And so, when SL left to use the car, was it still parked in Stevenage Road? ergo, did SL have to use another Fiesta INSTEAD?

Did SL even drive "her" white Fiesta that day?

And could SL have been seen by BW driving another company car Fiesta?


Of course, if someone had planned to abduct and murder SL, then by having the Fiesta parked in Stevenage Road, then SL would have needed to use another car.

And if Sturgis had access to more than one white Fiesta, then this vehicle may have used to abduct SL, and the Stevenage Road Fiesta then acts as a decoy.

But how could 2 company vehicles be missing?

Well they can't.

Which means that SL may have been abducted in the Fiesta she was seen driving at 2.45pm by BW, and then the car driven back to Sturgis...as though the car had not even been used that day.

Because when the other Fiesta is then found in Stevenage Road, everyone assumes that SL must have used that car.


So IF the company had TWO white Fiesta cars, then someone who worked for Sturgis could have abducted SL, and then driven back to Sturgis, having already known that the other Fiesta had been driven and parked up in Stevenage Road earlier; ergo, once the Fiesta is seen in Stevenage Road at 12.45pm, it stays there for the entire duration.

The real killer using the OTHER white Fiesta to abduct SL, after she had to swap cars shortly after leaving Sturgis and realising that "her" car was still being used by her colleague.

I would look at ANY males that worked for Sturgis; not just in Fulham, but across the company.

Of course, IF the entire company only had ONE white Fiesta, then this entire hypothesis is nonsense and utterly pointless.

james calvert the office junior was the one who took SL car to show a client around a house on foskett rd. he was gone about 30 mins. calvert did not have a car of his own, so he could take a company car to a viewing. it was not unusual for calvert to take SL car to a viewing as he was a sturgis employee.

 

[lee sumner]

Also agree on everything but people just cannot see it, no one saw her leave the office, no one saw her get in her car in fact no one saw her again or can verify they definitively did, her purse in the car suggests she used it, 2 fiestas double parked?? Mg going to sr with female and later talking to hr is suggestive,so many many questionable moments and yet no one finds it believable

MG did not go SR with a female. why do people think this. as for MG. i think kes1972 is reaching. MG was concerned about SL as she works for him. i dont see anything suspicious about him. some people think MG looks like mr kipper, but i dont see it. MG has a round face and curly hair, and in my opinion looks nothing like mr kipper.

 

[Officer Dibble]

james calvert the office junior was the one who took SL car to show a client around a house on foskett rd. he was gone about 30 mins. calvert did not have a car of his own, so he could take a company car to a viewing. it was not unusual for calvert to take SL car to a viewing as he was a sturgis employee.

But another branch of Sturgis had a white Fiesta too.

 

[lee sumner]

We have established that someone involved with the disappearance of SL must have driven the white Fiesta and left it in Stevenage Road.

That's a factual piece of data from which to progress and expand upon.

Whilst it does not prove that it was actually the abductor who parked the car (it may have been an accomplice) we can suggest with a degree of confidence that it is more likely and probable that the person who parked the car was the same person who abducted SL.

Again, that's not a fact, but it's highly probable compared to the idea of more than one person having been involved.

So, let's continue...

When the car was left, where did the suspect go?

1) walked to a location within walking distance, without the use of a vehicle (they stayed within close proximity)
2) walked to a location within walking distance, and got into a vehicle and drove off.
3) walked to a location within walking distance, and got into a vehicle driven by an accomplice
4) walked to a location within walking distance and hailed a taxi in the street
5) walked to a cab/taxi office
6) walked to a bus stop
7) walked to a train station
8) they got into a vehicle parked within very close proximity to the Fiesta
9) they got into a vehicle parked within very close proximity to the Fiesta, where an accomplice was waiting.
10) they went into a property within very close proximity to the Fiesta.

At first glance, it would seem that any of the above are viable options.

However, when we add the fact that SL had to have physically been somewhere, then we can dismiss some of the above options as being highly improbable.

But let's put that on hold for a moment while we ask the next question; WHERE was SL at the time the abductor drove and parked the Fiesta in Stevenage Road?

Well, rather crucially, seeing as though the driver's door was unlocked and the passenger door was unlocked, then unless SL was sitting in the passenger seat and then got out of the car via the driver's door AFTER the abductor got out of the driver's seat first, then the abductor must have put SL somewhere else (other than the car) PRIOR to them having driven and parked the car in Stevenage Road.

And so, when we combine this fact with the list of 10 viable options for where the abductor may have gone after they parked the car, then it would seem highly probable that when the abductor exited the Fiesta, they must have gone to the location where SL was situated.

The next question is to ask; where could SL have been placed prior to the abductor driving her car and leaving it in Stevenage Road?

We need to now look at timeframe and work out the "logistics" of how far away from Stevenage Road could SL have been left between the time she was abducted, to the point the car was left in Stevenage Road.

But this we can look at in my next post...

mr kipper got into a vehicle parked up close to stevenage rd, then back tracked to the place where he has lamplugh held captive. this place where he took her was probably outside fulham, but not that far away. 2 mile radius of fulham. ditching SL car on stevenage rd was clever because it keeps the investigation focused on fulham, but he has lamplugh held captive just outside fulham. mr kipper has slipped through the net taking SL with him, but we dont know where he took her.

 

[kes1972]

how would H

how would HR know MG was looking for SL. if riglin seen MG looking through the window of 37SR he would not guess, that is the boss looking for one of his negotiators. MG could be a client checking the address out. so HR must have seen a couple outside 37SR.

He would know this because mg went ot 37sr twice and the second time spoke. With hr and could have intimated anything in the conversation.

 

[kes1972]

MG did not go SR with a female. why do people think this. as for MG. i think kes1972 is reaching. MG was concerned about SL as she works for him. i dont see anything suspicious about him. some people think MG looks like mr kipper, but i dont see it. MG has a round face and curly hair, and in my opinion looks nothing like mr kipper.

Well i will agree to differ, many people have mentioned in the past how similar the phoofit is (on these threads) and ( on these threads) it is mentioned he went to the address with colleague.

 

[kes1972]

how would H

how would HR know MG was looking for SL. if riglin seen MG looking through the window of 37SR he would not guess, that is the boss looking for one of his negotiators. MG could be a client checking the address out. so HR must have seen a couple outside 37SR.

The first one is to show up the second visit would be the connection, it may not even been expected that mg would face a neighbour, but over time mg may have visited the address before who knows.