UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[Officer Dibble]

And i wonder how far it was from his address?

Do we know where he was living at the time?

 

[Officer Dibble]

It was a neighbour in Disraeli who referenced SL as ‘Susan’.

The ‘Susan’ VV referencing is a Swedish model I think. He is talking to the friend.

It was ‘Sarah’ calling the pub. VV poss not using the women’s real names.

Is there an Italian alias that sounds like ‘Kipper’?

Motor sports - yes a ‘scary’ date, about May.

BBM: Yes! Chiappa (pronounced Kee-ap-pah - say it fast not slow) Or Quippa (pronounced Kweep-pah) . I found these on google. It also said "If you are researching a specific family, it is highly likely that "Kippa" in an Italian context is a variation of a similarly spelled, more common Southern Italian name. "

Do we know where exactlyl VV was from in Italy? Often surnames have regional ties.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

Isnt that photo the father of VV?

No

 

[Kasparthecat1]

But was he was looking through net curtains?

I think he was, but not sure if this was reported at the time.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

I think he was, but not sure if this was reported at the time.

It looks that way in reconstruction - is he playing himself? (I think so & age fits).

That said he might have lifted net if watching his expensive car (relative said to DV).

 

[Officer Dibble]

No

Are you sure? I watched part of documentary and it mentioned VV father and they showed this photo.

On another point, how did VV get mentioned in here? How does his name come into this?

 

[WestLondoner]

He had indeed been back to 37 Shorrolds with a colleauge, but had found no sign of Susannah in or out of the house

And once again we wonder how he checked for signs in the house if SJL had the keys...

 

[WestLondoner]

The ‘Susan’ VV referencing is a Swedish model I think. He is talking to the friend.

I'm feeling I didn't make best use of the 1980s. The only Swedish model in my life was a Volvo 480.

HR did not know SL, so he could hardly say it was her.

That didn't stop the police!

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

Are you sure? I watched part of documentary and it mentioned VV father and they showed this photo.

On another point, how did VV get mentioned in here? How does his name come into this?

I am certain. I have books on him & his autobiography complete with photos.

I’ve long thought he looked like the widely known ‘Kipper’ photofit & he was in the Fulham area at right time looking for a flat. A few coincidences…

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

I am certain. I have books on him & his autobiography complete with photos.

I’ve long thought he looked like the widely known ‘Kipper’ photofit & he was in the Fulham area at right time looking for a flat. A few coincidences…

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

BBM: Yes! Chiappa (pronounced Kee-ap-pah - say it fast not slow) Or Quippa (pronounced Kweep-pah) . I found these on google. It also said "If you are researching a specific family, it is highly likely that "Kippa" in an Italian context is a variation of a similarly spelled, more common Southern Italian name. "

Do we know where exactlyl VV was from in Italy? Often surnames have regional ties.

His home town was Ascoli, Pinceno. Lived in Rome for many years.

 

[rvlvr]

I think he was, but not sure if this was reported at the time.

Yes, @Klclevi helpfully shared an old newspaper article last week in which it was said he was looking through net curtains.

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Excellent posts @Klclevi - in particular it’s interesting to see it mentioned that Suzy’s purse was in the glove compartment of her car, this is also where the Suzy Lamplugh Trust say it was found. And on HR, he says he glimpsed the couple outside 37SR for no more than 2-3 seconds, I knew it wasn’t a great look at them that he got but didn’t realise it was that short a time period. And through net curtains! He’s described as seeing ‘Susie’ but as we know now he never actually positively identified seeing her.

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[kes1972]

HR did not know SL, so he could hardly say it was her.

But surely if he was shown a picture of her he could havr said yes or no?

 

[kes1972]

It looks that way in reconstruction - is he playing himself? (I think so & age fits).

That said he might have lifted net if watching his expensive car (relative said to DV).

In 2-3 seconds i doubt he lifted the curtains

 

[kes1972]

Definitely looks like kipper to a t

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

But surely if he was shown a picture of her he could havr said yes or no

He wasn’t shown a ‘picture’ & truthfully I think, on evidence we have, he didn’t get enough of a glimpse to identify her at all.

 

[kes1972]

Ah, now that is interesting, because I was only speculating that Sturgis had another white Fiesta in use across one of its branches.

If that is indeed true, then THAT Fiesta is likely IMO to be the one that SL was seen driving by BW on the Fulham Palace Road, and THAT could possibly be the abduction vehicle.

So we know that Sturgis Putney were involved with the sale of SL's flat, and also that SL was looking to buy a flat.

And so IF the other Fiesta was used by the Putney branch, or another branch local to Fulham, then perhaps Mr Kipper was either a prospective client for her own flat, OR SL was the client herself, and the elusive Mr Kipper was an Estate Agent (a Sturgis employee) from another branch, who he was showing HER around a flat she was interested in.

IMO Sturgis seems to be the key to all of this, because IF the white Fiesta was indeed parked in Stevenage Road from 12.45pm until it was found; ergo, it wasn't moved at all once it was parked there, then BW must have seen SL driving another white Fiesta company vehicle.

There's only 2 possible options;

1) SL was seen driving a different white Fiesta used by Sturgis employees, including a Fiesta used by another branch of Sturgis, or,

2 SL's Fiesta did NOT stay parked in Stevenage Road for the entire duration, and it was only assumed that it hadn't been moved since 12.45pm

Let's not forget also that IF the white Fiesta was seen parked in Stevenage Road at 12.45pm, and there were multiple sightings of SL in Shorrolds Road just 5 minutes later, then the only way that's possible is if SL was given a lift to Shorrolds road in ANOTHER vehicle. i.e. SL couldn't have reached Shorrolds road from Stevenage road by walking there, in just 5 minutes.

And so SL either...

1) drove to Stevenage Road and then got a lift to Shorrolds Road, or,

2) she didn't drive to Stevenage road, as her Fiesta was used by another employee prior to her leaving the office, meaning she had to use another car, or was given a lift by someone else just after she left the office.

SL can't be in 2 places at the same time, and unless she ran to Shorrolds Road in heels and a long pencil skirt, then IF she drove to Stevenage Road BEFORE going to Shorrolds Road, then she must have been driven from Stevenage Road to Shorrolds Road by someone else.

Other choice 1 fiesta pulls up behind her at 37sr, ruse of maybe lost key and viewing of her flat say’s customer is waiting and she says take my car as flat key on keyring (or they agree and then to meet after at a location to return keys)
The other car then used by sl and she drives herself to the said location after viewing, mr kipper was there and that made her make the quick decision, kipper follows her in his bmw

 

[lee sumner]

@lee sumner the odds are good that it was SL, surely, absolutely, but no one asked who else was in the road at lunchtime, showing properties or otherwise, (as far as I know) the emphasis was on finding witnesses. The feeling was this woman was an obvious blonde, very fair.

DV is surprised no one could and did identify this woman, seen outside or close by, as SL, including HR.

DV has a tendency to believe what someone says. riglin said he seen a man and woman. he never actually said it was SL, as he was paying more attention to the man. common sense tells me it was SL and MR KIPPER.

 

[lee sumner]

But surely if he was shown a picture of her he could havr said yes or no?

no, he said he was looking at the man, more than the woman.