GUILTY UK - Viktorija Sokolova, 14, Murdered, Wolverhampton W. Mids, 11 April 2018 *Arrests*

[Tortoise]

Interesting that this face and name is NOT what was going round on social media at the time or around trial time!

Very strange.

 

[claudianunes]

I have so many issues with this case. I'm not saying that he's innocent (because he isn't, obviously). But several things make me have a hard time believing he did everything he is accused of, alone.

Detective Inspector Caroline Corfield, who led the murder inquiry, says Viktorija's murderer was clearly forensically aware and decided to dispose of bloodstained clothing, including a pair of Adidas Gazelle training shoes.

So, he was enough "forensically aware" to dispose of several items, including the murder weapon, but didn't think about avoiding CCTV cameras on his way to and back from the park where she was murdered? I know he was wearing a hoodie, but why not take a different route without so much exposure to CCTV (to be honest, I don't know if that was even possible, maybe he didn't really have any other ways to get into the park, but I'm sure there are places in Wolverhampton without that much CCTV coverage), if he was already planning to go out of his way to bring extra clothes AND shoes, and to dispose of the items he was wearing during the crime, afterwards? Also, he wasn't enough "forensically aware" to delete his Facebook account and Facebook Messenger, instead, he simply deleted the messages he had sent her on Facebook Messenger, which does literally nothing because those messages would still be available on her account. Not many 16-year-olds are unaware of this, these kids live on social media, they know this stuff.

Viktorija's white jeans and bloodstained underwear, as well as a sock, were found dumped in a litter bin near the boating lake.
Her mobile phone had been hurled onto an island on the lake, adjacent to a pavilion in which she was raped and beaten.

He went to great lenghts to dispose of his stuff, and he did it so well that LE can't even find anything to this day. But left all of her stuff in the park and didn't even make an effort to hide her body. That doesn't make much sense, at least not to me.

00.44am: CCTV spots the boy still in a hooded jacket, Adidas trainers and carrying a backpack but wearing different coloured trousers.

He left the park wearing the same shoes and the same hoodie. He just changed his pants. If he killed her like the investigation alleges he did, his hoodie and shoes had to be full of blood.

Anyways, I'm not defending anyone. And certainly not this guy. But, to me, it doesn't seem very plausible that he did everything he was accused of, alone. Some things don't really add up. I believe someone else was there or, at the very least, that someone helped him dispose of his clothes and shoes. I don't know of many 16-year-old boys willing to give up their fancy shoes, he could have washed them, but something about the shoes clearly worried him to the point of him making it disappear, and he obviously had her blood at least on the soles because LE found his shoeprints on her blood. If we didn't have his name, or any name, if we didn't have anyone I would immediately think of 3-5 teenage males of doing this. And the several semen samples found on her just make me believe that even more. She's 14-years-old, how sexual active could she be? I mean, kids start exploring their sexuality really early, but how many 14-year-old girls (or boys, for that matter) are having sex with several people so close together, like with several boys on the same day? As a 14-year-old? I don't know, man. What I know is that Viktorija was sexually abused and brutally murder, and if he is the sole responsible, then so be it, he will pay for what he did. But if someone else participated in this disgusting crime, they need to pay too. No matter how troubled she was, no matter how she behaved, she didn't deserve to suffer in any way, let alone how much she suffered. I am also very sorry that this poor girl didn't feel happy at her own home, and we all know that some teenagers go crazy on their parents sometimes and feel like their parents are ruining their lives, but the way she spoke about her home life, the times she tried to run away... it doesn't strike me as teenage rebellion. Poor girl.

 

[Kikixxxx]

I dont think its that out the ordinary for a 14 year old to be sexually active nowadays, didn't her mum ring the police the week before and report her daughter saying she is off the rails and sleeping around? let me find the article.

The final straw came when one of the windows at the family home was smashed on December 15.


Speaking to a 999 call handler that day, her mother said: "I am scared in my own house, you understand.


"I have a very big problem with my daughter.


"She is a very troubled child, very troubled.


"She smokes, she sleeps with guys, and she smokes ganja.

The tragic case of troubled schoolgirl brutally murdered

Not that it makes a difference in any way i just mean its not that hard to believe that she might of slept with 1 or 2 different guys in the days or day before the murder and some of their semen was left over on her clothes if they weren't freshly washed that day.
Didn't he try to denie that it was him on the footage too? I'd think it would be near enough impossible to hide from every cctv camera on his route to/from the park, even a grown adult wouldn't be able to hide from every single camera, the amount of shops and even homes that have cctv now it would be extremely difficult, other than that he actually did a good job at hiding the evidence (his bag, shoes and clothes and murder weapon)
The detective in charge of the case was worried he would get away with it due to him destroying the most crucial evidence:

"Once we understood what he was capable of, I was not the only person on the inquiry who lost sleep over the possibility of him being acquitted and walking free from court onto the streets."

'One of the most shocking cases I've worked on': Murder cop on West Park killing

 

[Kikixxxx]

Its just so shocking that this guy had no warning signs, it is odd i agree but i dont doubt he did it, only his footprints were found in her blood, and only he was caught leaving the park after arranging to meet her that night, if he didnt kill her and just had consensual sex why would he feel the need to dump his backpack, bring a change of clothes and dump his trainers like you said, they were expensive why didnt he just wash them? why would they of even needed to be washed at all?

 

[Isabelle98]

It certainly doesn't seem long enough. This wasn't just murder it was a shocking amount of violence used, rape, and planning too. But it does say minimum, I hope he won't be getting out that easily after the 19 years, without rehabilitation being evident. I wonder how much difference his age made to the sentence.

If somebody kills that way he can't be rehabilitated (because he's a psycho without hope)...and yes, 19 years are not enough at all.
Everytime a underage suspect is convicted the justice system is always "soft" and "sympathetic"....
Here we have the same problem....

 

[claudianunes]

Its just so shocking that this guy had no warning signs, it is odd i agree but i dont doubt he did it, only his footprints were found in her blood, and only he was caught leaving the park after arranging to meet her that night, if he didnt kill her and just had consensual sex why would he feel the need to dump his backpack, bring a change of clothes and dump his trainers like you said, they were expensive why didnt he just wash them? why would they of even needed to be washed at all?

Yes, I don't know, I can't answear my own questions. I just don't think he did it alone, and I'm most likely wrong, which is fine as long as justice is served.
I think there was something going on with him, both he and Viktorija were on the radar of CPS or the equivalent of it. I don't know why though.
About the sexual active topic, I don't know, it just doesn't sit right with me. I didn't know her, of course, but Jesus several people in the last day or two? As a 14-year-old? She was hanging out with her friends, 13-year-old girls, it's not like she was always hanging around boys. I feel a bit sad for her mother, she must have been desperate to kind of get her kid on the "right path", but I also feel sad for the kid, she wasn't happy at home and that shows. Man, this is terrible. Poor girl.

 

[Kikixxxx]

Yes, I don't know, I can't answear my own questions. I just don't think he did it alone, and I'm most likely wrong, which is fine as long as justice is served.
I think there was something going on with him, both he and Viktorija were on the radar of CPS or the equivalent of it. I don't know why though.
About the sexual active topic, I don't know, it just doesn't sit right with me. I didn't know her, of course, but Jesus several people in the last day or two? As a 14-year-old? She was hanging out with her friends, 13-year-old girls, it's not like she was always hanging around boys. I feel a bit sad for her mother, she must have been desperate to kind of get her kid on the "right path", but I also feel sad for the kid, she wasn't happy at home and that shows. Man, this is terrible. Poor girl.

I know what you mean, sometimes you just have a gut feeling something isn’t right don’t you, I felt the same way about Aaron Campbell who murdered alesha macphail. I just had this feeling something wasn’t right and it wasn’t just him alone. Maybe we just can’t comprehend that 16 year old boys can be capable of something so awful it’s too hard to accept

 

[claudianunes]

I know what you mean, sometimes you just have a gut feeling something isn’t right don’t you, I felt the same way about Aaron Campbell who murdered alesha macphail. I just had this feeling something wasn’t right and it wasn’t just him alone. Maybe we just can’t comprehend that 16 year old boys can be capable of something so awful it’s too hard to accept

It really is. Kids hurting, abusing, killing other kids. I just can't understand this type of violence. It's just terrible. So sad.

 

[mrazda71]

Adidas Gazelles are by no means considered 'expensive' trainers here in the uk and there's plenty of people selling fake popular brand trainers for £10.

If you've just violently raped and murdered someone, I very much doubt you're thinking 'oooh but these are my favourite shoes' ...

He DID have help disposing of the clothing, backpack and weapon.

At least one of the sperm samples (minute trace) came from her Step Dad - this is not confirmation of any sexual contact between then and could simply have occured if she took her Jean's back out of a dirty laundry basket before they'd been washed (mum had destroyed all her clothes to try and stop her going out with the unsavoury people, so I can fully believe that she'd put on unwashed Jean's rather than not go out).

Wolverhampton (I live a 10-15 drive away) is full of CCTV, shops homes, public areas such as parks and soooo many people have dash-cams now too that it's impossible to avoid all cameras. IF there had been any other person in the park with him, they'd have been seen.

You are thinking about it all as (I'm assuming) a sane, mentally well, 'normal' person ... Ayman was none of these things.
He was an unmedicated paranoid Schizophrenic with a taste for pornography.

 

[claudianunes]

There are other models of Adidas shoes with the same and similar sole prints as the Gazelle, just saying though. And yes, it's a popular model among teens (and adults, I guess).

 

[Gothgirl55]

Interesting that this face and name is NOT what was going round on social media at the time or around trial time!

This has really bothered me as there were 3 boys named and pictured all over facebook when this awful crime happened. At the time I thought if they were not involved it would be awful for all involved, if they were then I hope they would get what they deserved.
I am glad to see your post and know that it was not those boys involved...but I hope that if anyone else was they get caught....I cannot stop thinking about poor Tori and her family and friends, what they must have gone through...West park was a great place when I was a teen, spent many a day over there and always felt safe....cant bear the thought of going there now

 

[Kikixxxx]

I didn’t see any pics of the 3 but I read they were Kurdish Muslims. I know Ayman Aziz brother was arrested at the time too , I wonder if he was one of the boys pics that was going round. We’re the pics of older men? Or teenage boys?

 

[Gothgirl55]

I didn’t see any pics of the 3 but I read they were Kurdish Muslims. I know Ayman Aziz brother was arrested at the time too , I wonder if he was one of the boys pics that was going round. We’re the pics of older men? Or teenage boys?

They were teenage boys and i believe 2 of them were related.