UK - Women going online to share sex abuse fantasies

[Missizzy]

We also, as a society, have to educate the media about their double standard on these child sexual abuse cases. I remembered posting not long ago about this and looked back. Sure enough, I posted this on 12/25/09:

"A former La Quinta Middle School administrator was arrested Wednesday and accused of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy who was a student at the school, Riverside County sheriff's officials said Thursday."

and

".......there was no indication force was used, and the boy appeared to have been a willing participant in the acts."

A 14 year old child cannot consent to having a "sexual relationship". When is the media going to learn this? When is society going to say ENOUGH!! If the perp was a man would that phrase be used? The appropriate word is rape. It is what it is.


On checking back on the case, I came upon this:

ttp://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/2009-0101-1224-ind.htm

Notice that even the Sheriff's Office uses the phrase, ".......possibly having an illicit sexual relationship with a 14-year-old male juvenile..."



If we don't change the language we'll never recognize the crime for what it is--child rape.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

We also, as a society, have to educate the media about their double standard on these child sexual abuse cases. I remembered posting not long ago about this and looked back. Sure enough, I posted this on 12/25/09:

"A former La Quinta Middle School administrator was arrested Wednesday and accused of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy who was a student at the school, Riverside County sheriff's officials said Thursday."

and

".......there was no indication force was used, and the boy appeared to have been a willing participant in the acts."

A 14 year old child cannot consent to having a "sexual relationship". When is the media going to learn this? When is society going to say ENOUGH!! If the perp was a man would that phrase be used? The appropriate word is rape. It is what it is.


On checking back on the case, I came upon this:

ttp://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/2009-0101-1224-ind.htm

Notice that even the Sheriff's Office uses the phrase, ".......possibly having an illicit sexual relationship with a 14-year-old male juvenile..."



If we don't change the language we'll never recognize the crime for what it is--child rape.

Well someone needs to clue Jane V. Mitchell in.......she thinks the only predators in this country are males.

imo

 

[Linda7NJ]

Well someone needs to clue Jane V. Mitchell in.......she thinks the only predators in this country are males.

imo

and Whoopie, she said it wasn't "rape rape" and actually used air quotes when talking about Roman Polanski!

I thought my head was going to EXPLODE that day!

Here... make sure ya watch the whole thing http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape+rape

 

[Missizzy]

Please don't make me watch it AGAIN!!!!!!

 

[kbl8201]

and Whoopie, she said it wasn't "rape rape" and actually used air quotes when talking about Roman Polanski!

I thought my head was going to EXPLODE that day!

Here... make sure ya watch the whole thing http://jezebel.com/5369395/whoopi-on-roman-polanski-it-wasnt-rape+rape

what exactly is her idea of rape?
he drugged her and didnt stop when she said no.
i think this is her opinion only due to who he is. if it was her 13 year old daughter she would be singing a diffrent tune!!!!!!!!!

 

[Linda7NJ]

what exactly is her idea of rape?
he drugged her and didnt stop when she said no.
i think this is her opinion only due to who he is. if it was her 13 year old daughter she would be singing a diffrent tune!!!!!!!!!

Didn't her own daughter get pregnany at 14? Wonder how old the father was?

 

[Uller]

This is a bit old but I found a new site about this very topic. It is www.female-offenders.com or www.female-offenders.co.uk . The biblio page is a nice research aid and the videos are pretty good.

 

[Missizzy]

The survivors' page is especially helpful. If you scroll down to the bottom of that page, there's an excellent check-list on how to help a survivor of sexual abuse by a female.

To be honest, the check-list works really fine with all survivors. Thanks for a great resource, Uller.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The survivors' page is especially helpful. If you scroll down to the bottom of that page, there's an excellent check-list on how to help a survivor of sexual abuse by a female.

To be honest, the check-list works really fine with all survivors. Thanks for a great resource, Uller.

Imo, that is because both the female and male sexual offenders have much more in common than some want to think they do.

imo

 

[VespaElf]

If a child being drugged and then raped vaginally AND anally isnt "rape rape" wtf is ????

 

[Missizzy]

ITA, that much is the same--probably now more than ever. In the past, our gender roles were more tightly defined. I would think that in the past (stereotypically), a child abused by a male could have found refuge with a female relative who, while not believing or even knowing about the abuse, would be loving. Some of the older research points to female offenders causing more damage due to the trust issue and the loss of a "mother" figure. Now, our gender roles and parenting roles are more loosely defined and a wound by a male or female is far more eqalized, IMO.


I saw this post at the perfect time. My son was assigned to watch the Oprah Winfrey "Conversation with Molesters" show as he's studying Criminology. Well, he's a rape victim (which I don't think he's shared with this professor). I told him I'd be available for support (he's at college 250 miles away). Poor guy must have texted me 20 times during the show.

He said he's glad he watched it (and watched it twice) but he just can't believe that guys can "look so normal" and sound "so nice". I reminded him that his rapist looked "normal" but of course he looks back and sees him for the monster he really was. I also reminded him that these men's therapist was sitting next to them ready to go down their throats if they didn't take full responsibility. I also reminded him that they had been in therapy for years.

He broke my heart by asking me "Why didn't the victims tell right away?" I had to turn it around and ask him why he didn't. It took a minute for him to stop blaming the victims for repeated abuse. He just said, really quietly, "Yeah, three times." So sad.

He wrote me a text saying he was having some flashbacks this morning and I remembered the survivor's site on the above link. I looked and sure enough, there was a link to:

www.malesurvivor.org

It is offender gender non-specific. I hope it helps him. I'll stay in close touch with him all day.

 

[forthelost]

Oprah also ran this show that is very informative:

http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Raped-by-His-Mother-Gregg-Milligans-Story

 

[Missizzy]

Just to be clear, my son was raped by an older male. I was just impressed with the website that Uller linked to. It had lots of great resources for abuse survivors, whether their rapist was male or female. Uller just happened to post it at the perfect moment when I needed the info.

I'll watch the other videos. That looks like a hard one but one we need to see. I don't have TV and have never watched an Oprah TV show but I have to commend her for her work on these interviews. I find them quite impressive.

 

[Parmenides]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...o-share-child-sexabuse-fantasies-1839304.html

An excerpt from one website reads: "If you are a female child lover we want you to know there is nothing wrong with you. The biggest problem is the teachers, therapists, cops, clerics and parents who force their stale morality on the young people in their custody. For children, experiencing sexual pleasure is not damaging at all, they enjoy it ... just like we do."

Notwithstanding everything that has been said on this thread, it has to be borne in mind that, on the web, people are not necessarily who they present themselves as. It is possible that the above was written by a man who is trying to encourage women to write about their sexual fantasies concerning children because he gets off on the subject. To me the whole tone of the piece sounds like that of a male pervert, not a female at all.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Notwithstanding everything that has been said on this thread, it has to be borne in mind that, on the web, people are not necessarily who they present themselves as. It is possible that the above was written by a man who is trying to encourage women to write about their sexual fantasies concerning children because he gets off on the subject. To me the whole tone of the piece sounds like that of a male pervert, not a female at all.

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I really don't think so.

Do you really think that a female can't be just as vulgar, repulsive, graphic and deviant with their own sexual fantasies about molesting and raping children? If so, why do you think that? Why cant it be a female? A lot of females are very graphic about their sex life so I don't see why they wouldn't be if they were female wannabe pedophiles who fantasizes about sexually abusing children.

Respectfully I think that thinking is a lot of society's problems and how they falsely view women.

I read an article a few months back that said more than ever before females are watching and that included child .

Until we really look at the female predator without shutting our eyes our children will continue to be sexual abused by them more than ever before. For years we have given them the tools to deceive by automatically assuming :innocent: that they are trustworthy and of course the old stand by "a woman or a mother wouldn't do that" but the truth is that is hogwash and nothing but a feminist tool to make the woman appear the better safer sex. And all the while children are victimized and feel they have no support group because they were raped or molested by a female. 80% of the ones who do get up enough courage to report a female deviant aren't believed. That is absolutely a shame and disgrace.

I have read so much about female sexual predators since the Sandra Cantu rape and murder by Melissa Huckaby. Both the male and female pedophile have the same MO. They both are disgusting POSs.

I hope someone has reported this pedophilia fantasies website to the proper authorities. Imo, these perverts will act on their fantasies if they haven't already and more victims will be made.

imo

 

[Filly]

http://www.canadiancrc.com/Female_Sex_Offenders-Female_Sexual_Predators_awareness.aspx

86% of the victims of female sexual predators aren't believed, so the crimes go unreported and don't get prosecuted.

Considering these facts, arrest statistics for child sexual offenders by gender are meaningless.

From "The Sexual Abuse by Women of Children and Teenagers"

86%? That's really high.

It all makes perfect sense though. Who is going to believe a child when they tell Miss Black did something to them after school? Probably not many parents. It will be brushed aside just as it had been when we were kids and said a male predator harmed us. "Oh you must be mistaken". Mistaken my a*s. Nobody would want to believe a woman can do such an evil thing.

Meanwhile no doubt the root of all evil has us now seeing more women assaulting children. Money. When Mr. Jones comes to a woman who has access to kids and says "I'll give ya X amount for each child you blah blah blah"(sorry I can't even write it) perhaps Miss Black needs the money or sees it as an easy way to get some extra cash. Voila we got a Nation full of abused, assaulted, and violated children.

Now I wanna puke again.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Female Sex Offenders: Double Standard?
Many Say They Don't Get Treated As Harshly As Men:banghead:

Are all sex offenders treated the same? Does the public take the cases as seriously when the offender or alleged offender is a woman? Many people are asking those questions after several highly-publicized scandals involving female teachers and male students.

As Susan Koeppen observed on The Early Show Thursday, the majority of sex offenders are men, but it's the women who get a lot of the attention.

When a beautiful teacher seduces a student, some people think, "What's the harm?"

But Koeppen spoke with one student who says his "affair" with a teacher left him devastated.

"I'm still trying to battle back," Jason Eickmeyer told Koeppen. "This happened in 2003, and it's 2006, and I still can't get it out of my mind."

At 15, reports Koeppen, Eickmeyer was a champion wrestler, with dreams of going to a Division I school. But he says all that changed his sophomore year at Hammonton High in Hammonton, N.J., when, he says, he caught the eye of 26-year-old gym teacher, Traci Tapp.

http://www.canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/CBS_Female_Sex_Offenders_Double_Standard_15JUN06.aspx

 

[Uller]

86% of the victims of female sexual predators aren't believed, so the crimes go unreported and don't get prosecuted.

"65% of the survivors who tried to tell a therapist, doctor, teacher, or other professional were not believed the first time they disclosed. Overall, 86% of those who tried to tell anyone were not believed the first time they disclosed." - http://www.female-offenders.com/resources.html

"The issue of victims not telling was highlighted after the Kidscape First National Conference on Female Sexual Abuse in March 1992. The television programme This Morning opened up a hotline for callers to talk about abuse by women. In the course of one day, they had over 1000 telephone calls. Ninety per cent of the callers had never told anyone about their abuse before that programme." - http://www.female-offenders.com/resources.html

 

[flourish]

*Sigh* This is just disgusting. I'm going to have to mention Canada's Karla Homolka. If you don't know who she is, or even if you do and want to see more, check out the youtube video of her from Canadian television's "The Fifth Estate," let me find a link....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PACXH-fOwo&feature=related[/ame]

Okay there's the link to part one of five. Well worth watching but remember, once you watch it, you can't unwatch it. Like that movie in "The Ring."

 

[oceanblueeyes]

"65% of the survivors who tried to tell a therapist, doctor, teacher, or other professional were not believed the first time they disclosed. Overall, 86% of those who tried to tell anyone were not believed the first time they disclosed." - http://www.female-offenders.com/resources.html

"The issue of victims not telling was highlighted after the Kidscape First National Conference on Female Sexual Abuse in March 1992. The television programme This Morning opened up a hotline for callers to talk about abuse by women. In the course of one day, they had over 1000 telephone calls. Ninety per cent of the callers had never told anyone about their abuse before that programme." - http://www.female-offenders.com/resources.html

Thank you for the link Uller.

This shows why the statistics are soooooooo flawed when it comes to female sexual predators.

IMO