Unlisted Missing and Unidentified Persons Research

[Keiri]

I just thought I’d point out this wiki is a good source of missing people. It’s the unsolved unsolved mysteries from the show. A good amount were disappearances. Unsolved

 

[SimsGuy67]

I have not personally used this feature, but if you could add a column with the zip code/postal code, then you will have the “data” in place for someone to generate a map. So I believe they were recommending adding a column like that. Once that’s in place, some one who is Google sheets/maps savy, could generate a map with color coded dots (MPs and UIDs being different colors).

I noticed that a map could be made too. I don't know how to generate a map at all, but I do have experience is making Google Maps so I'd be up to manually creating it?

 

[Keiri]

@Keiri . I only have ancestry, and newspapers.com by subscription. I would appreciate you comments regarding the benefits and best use of the other two, if you don't mind.

Both are good, in fact I think newspapers is probably the best.
Newspaperarchive may be available through your library. I just get all three because this is what I do all day, I don't have a tv and don't smoke or drink. So this is my vice!

 

[cenazoic]

I’d say the primary difference between newspapers and newspaperarchive is that newspaperarchive has more small town papers. So they complement one another, but if I had to choose one, it’d likely be newspapers.com, depending on your use case.

I also have Ancestry and FamilySearch, although I don’t really understand their differences (don’t remember why I paid for FS now that I think about it.). FS also seems owned by Ancestry, or at least the LDS, who own Ancestry as well.

 

[cenazoic]

So this is my vice!

Lol - is that what you call it? I often feel like an obsessive stalker of (likely) dead people!

 

[Keiri]

Lol - is that what you call it? I often feel like an obsessive stalker of (likely) dead people!

We are helping others! Even if we are creepy stalkers >.> that's really the way I think about it. Being disabled and tired all the time, I can only work when I have energy, and have no endurance. This is the only interesting way I've found I can help people on my own terms.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I go through newspapers for these types of cases out of habit, have been since 2021. I’m gonna find the ones i’ve been researching for a while and post them here

 

[Crazyjster]

Hi there---I came across this thread and was wondering if you needed any help...I do legal research and discovery so this is kind of my thing (I'm in the legal field)...please feel free to reach out to me. I'd love to help.

 

[cenazoic]

I do legal research and discovery

Oh, so many questions - you’ll regret outing yourself this way.

But seriously, here’s one that comes to mind: what are the best resources (available to the general public) for determining whether someone is dead/has been declared dead, other than newspaper notices/Social Security?

What about legal name changes?

Added complexity: what if you don’t know the jurisdiction in which either occurred?

Thanks for taking the time, and welcome to the thread!

 

[Keiri]

Oh, whoops. I'm a lawyer too.
Name changes: best source is court records but also newspapers. At least in California where I practiced there had to be a certain numbers of weeks in the newspaper as an ad announcing soandso is changing their name to blah.

As for death declarations: you named the two best types. But again, court records, like in the case of Kinah Anderson (namus mp) there's a court case declaring him dead. Also Dept of Corrections records might list "deceased"
Finding an ancestry family tree might tell you. If they were in the military Ancestry might have the exact records.
I'm always looking for new information sources.

 

[Crazyjster]

Oh, so many questions - you’ll regret outing yourself this way.

But seriously, here’s one that comes to mind: what are the best resources (available to the general public) for determining whether someone is dead/has been declared dead, other than newspaper notices/Social Security?

What about legal name changes?

Added complexity: what if you don’t know the jurisdiction in which either occurred?

Thanks for taking the time, and welcome to the thread!

Oh my...for public use? Honestly something like Ancestory.com is easiest or office of vital statistics in the state you are searching (that takes longer) or coroners office (if you know they died)...I.E. I can go on LA county coroner for Los Angeles deaths, but Massachusetts (I'm pretty sure) is State...(sorry for long explanation)

Legal name changes...I've never given that any thought...I should look mine up...probably the courts...or vital statistics

 

[Crazyjster]

Oh, whoops. I'm a lawyer too.
Name changes: best source is court records but also newspapers. At least in California where I practiced there had to be a certain numbers of weeks in the newspaper as an ad announcing soandso is changing their name to blah.

As for death declarations: you named the two best types. But again, court records, like in the case of Kinah Anderson (namus mp) there's a court case declaring him dead. Also Dept of Corrections records might list "deceased"
Finding an ancestry family tree might tell you. If they were in the military Ancestry might have the exact records.
I'm always looking for new information sources.

haha...I'm not a lawyer but work in the field...at least I give the right answer

 

[Keiri]

This is from my own family, by marriage. FamilySearch.org my mother in law is in her 80s and said the family story is he went up to northern wisconsin to go logging, he sent some kind of letter or telegram that he was coming home. He had just been paid and they theorized he was robbed and tossed off the train or something. Last record he's in was 1880. Am I doing this wrong?

 

[Mysteries1974]

T.A, since 10/19/1983, missing from Easthampton, MA

 

[bettyboop]

Hello!! I was just searching through websleuths , and if you go to the HOME page, FORUMS, RESOURCE CENTER,GENERAL INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION, Then INTERNET SLEUTHING TIPS, @Sasquatch started a thread called GUIDE TO GOOGLE MAPS SLEUTHING AND FINDING CLUES . I haven't finished reading, but it seems to go into great detail. I'm afraid I had to post like this because I'm terrible at cut and paste or linking.

 

[HopeRains]

nvm - I've tried to post 2 links and am either getting blocked or it's showing my personal info

 

[Keiri]

nvm - I've tried to post 2 links and am either getting blocked or it's showing my personal info

Yeah it's not really working, I think we don't have permissions right. I right clicked and did "comments"

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Yeah it's not really working, I think we don't have permissions right. I right clicked and did "comments"

Oof. One minute.

 

[HopeRains]

Oof. One minute.

I don't think it's a flaw in the spreadsheet - I'm just having a hard time adding the link to cases here in this thread Without showing my personal info - from my subscription services.

Are you all tracking whether or not there is a photo available? I have come across a photo of one of the persons on the list but not clear if it might be needed - how should I handle that?

 

[Keiri]

I don't think it's a flaw in the spreadsheet - I'm just having a hard time adding the link to cases here in this thread Without showing my personal info - from my subscription services.

Are you all tracking whether or not there is a photo available? I have come across a photo of one of the persons on the list but not clear if it might be needed - how should I handle that?

I've been comparing the first list with NaMus just for now. The ones without pictures are really hard to get anything for. So it would definitely help me if you track it.