US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[otto]

Concluding remark is that Trump appears to believe that he can take Greenland and remain in NATO. The message he is hearing back is that he can't have both.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7046087

 

[otto]

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Trump "feels" that he needs to own Greenland for his "psychological success". Apparently this makes sense to the elected government in the United States. It doesn't make sense to anyone everywhere else on the planet.

“Ownership is very important,” Mr. Trump said as he discussed, with a real estate mogul’s eye, the landmass of Greenland — three times the size of Texas but with a population of less than 60,000. He seemed to dismiss the value of having Greenland under the control of a close NATO ally.

When asked why he needed to possess the territory, he said: “Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success."

Jan. 8 2026

Trump Lays Out a Vision of Power Restrained Only by ‘My Own Morality’

On topic after topic, President Trump made clear that he would be the arbiter of any limits to his authorities, not international law or treaties.

www.nytimes.com

 

[detective.moon]

“It is unclear whether the US president has forgotten Belgium or whether our country is being treated as an exception for some reason.”

unlike all other countries that are partaking in the mission, for some reason belgium isn’t on the list of countries that will get the 10% tariff. it comes across as a bit amateurish lol, but that’s not really surprising anymore! anyway, good for belgium, i hope no one tells trump.

Groenland - "Dit is volledig verkeerd" en "we laten ons niet intimideren": eensgezinde reacties op importheffingen van Trump over Groenland | VRT NWS: nieuws

Volg het nieuws over de spanningen rond Groenland op de voet in deze liveblog.

www.vrt.be

 

[SouthAussie]

I would like to know who wrote this coherent post. This is not how Donald Trump speaks or writes. I don't believe that a man who speaks in phrases with numerous random tangents can write this.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115911344443637897

Russell Vought is the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in the United States.
He is also the co-author of Project 2025. Link

imo

 

[otto]

Craziest headline I've seen in a long time.

 

[otto]

“It is unclear whether the US president has forgotten Belgium or whether our country is being treated as an exception for some reason.”

unlike all other countries that are partaking in the mission, for some reason belgium isn’t on the list of countries that will get the 10% tariff. it comes across as a bit amateurish lol, but that’s not really surprising anymore! anyway, good for belgium, i hope no one tells trump.

Groenland - "Dit is volledig verkeerd" en "we laten ons niet intimideren": eensgezinde reacties op importheffingen van Trump over Groenland | VRT NWS: nieuws

Volg het nieuws over de spanningen rond Groenland op de voet in deze liveblog.

www.vrt.be

The United States doesn't seem to know which way is up anymore.

 

[Herat]

The United States doesn't seem to know which way is up anymore.

* mutters something about a certain US Government official getting Greenland and Iceland mixed up.

 

[otto]

The US government doesn't appear to know what it's doing. Tariffs on EU countries because they are conducting training missions that were planned last October? It was coordinated with the US in advance, and today the US doesn't know anything about it?

Are they on drugs, do they have memory problems? What is going on?

"The import tariffs imposed by President Trump on countries participating in a Danish military mission in Greenland are undermining US-European relations, according to European Commission President von der Leyen.

She emphasizes that the Danish exercise, which she says was coordinated with the US in advance, is precisely intended to strengthen security in the Arctic region.
...

The Netherlands, France, the United Kingdom, Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Germany announced that they would send troops to Greenland. Belgium is also sending a soldier, but that country was not mentioned in the US president's message about the imposed levies.
...

Tomorrow, representatives from all European Union member states will meet to discuss the US tariffs."

Europa reageert op heffingen Trump: van 'helemaal verkeerd' tot 'onacceptabel'

Vandaag maakte de Amerikaanse president Trump bekend dat de VS heffingen van 10 procent oplegt aan landen die deelnemen aan een voorbereidende missie op een mogelijke NAVO-oefening.

nos.nl

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[Andreee]

I didn't know much about our neighbour to the south's military base on Greenland. I have become interested in reading all things Greenland these days. Here is some info from their website, including the fact they changed the name of it (no, not to their prez's name lol) from Thule to Pituffik.

https://www.petersonschriever.spaceforce.mil/pituffik-sb-greenland/

 

[SouthAussie]

Trump says these will remain in place until "such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland" by the US.

I was thinking the other day that pretty much everything is about a "deal" these days.
As opposed to using 'soft power' by nurturing and supporting a nation. Which is a much nicer way of keeping nations at their side. And generally very effective.

imo

 

[otto]

I was thinking the other day that pretty much everything is about a "deal" these days.
As opposed to using 'soft power' by nurturing and supporting a nation. Which is a much nicer way of keeping nations at their side. And generally very effective.

imo

A deal and a game.

"Announcing the new tariffs in a post on his Truth Social platform on Saturday, Trump said those countries were playing "a very dangerous game". At stake, he said, was the "Safety, Security, and Survival of our Planet".

Trump tariff threat over Greenland 'unacceptable', European leaders say

The US president says several European allies opposed to his plans to buy Greenland will face 10% tariffs from February.

www.bbc.com

 

[303gmf]

I would like to know who wrote this coherent post. This is not how Donald Trump speaks or writes. I don't believe that a man who speaks in phrases with numerous random tangents can write this.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115911344443637897

Steven Miller or Susie Wiles is my guess

 

[SouthAussie]

"While Donald Trump was announcing his intention of securing US ownership of Greenland through economic force, residents of the island were out in protest.

Images from capital Nuuk show demonstrators marching through the streets with banners declaring opposition to the presence of the US."

Starmer tells Trump in phone call that plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'wrong' - follow live

The prime minister also tells the US president that security in the Arctic remains a priority "for all Nato allies".

www.bbc.com

 

[SouthAussie]

"The "Defence of Greenland Agreement” gives Washington extensive access to the island, including the right to build bases and facilities, deploy more forces and generally operate as they see fit.

There are very few restrictions on what the US military can do, so long as they do not impinge on the national interest of Denmark or the local population. US personnel are even exempt from local taxation, as is all imported equipment.

In short, the argument that the US would not be able to build bases or deploy forces necessary for the defence of Greenland, or the rest of the continent, is not backed up by the document signed by both governments.

The 1951 treaty concludes by saying that the agreement shall remain in force for as long as the Nato alliance survives. It is this final point which is looking the least certain."

Starmer tells Trump in phone call that plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'wrong' - follow live

The prime minister also tells the US president that security in the Arctic remains a priority "for all Nato allies".

www.bbc.com

 

[Gators North]

"The "Defence of Greenland Agreement” gives Washington extensive access to the island, including the right to build bases and facilities, deploy more forces and generally operate as they see fit.

There are very few restrictions on what the US military can do, so long as they do not impinge on the national interest of Denmark or the local population. US personnel are even exempt from local taxation, as is all imported equipment.

In short, the argument that the US would not be able to build bases or deploy forces necessary for the defence of Greenland, or the rest of the continent, is not backed up by the document signed by both governments.

The 1951 treaty concludes by saying that the agreement shall remain in force for as long as the Nato alliance survives. It is this final point which is looking the least certain."

Starmer tells Trump in phone call that plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'wrong' - follow live

The prime minister also tells the US president that security in the Arctic remains a priority "for all Nato allies".

www.bbc.com

Yes, I don’t know how much longer the States will be a NATO member.

 

[SouthAussie]

UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer ... "Applying tariffs on allies for pursuing the collective security of Nato allies is completely wrong. We will of course be pursuing this directly with the US administration."

Swedish Prime Minister, Ulf Kristersson ... "We will not allow ourselves to be blackmailed ... only Denmark and Greenland decide on issues concerning Denmark and Greenland".

French President Emmanuel Macron .... "no intimidation nor threat will influence us"

The leader of the Danish Democrats, Inger Stoejberg ....... Denmark must not bow to "Trump's bully methods".

European Council President Antonio Costa .... "the European Union will always be very firm in defending international law... which of course begins within the territory of the member states of the European Union".

Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre .... "threats have no place among allies"

Finland's Prime Minister Petteri Orpo ... Trump's new tariff proposals are in "no-one's interest".

Starmer brands Trump's plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'completely wrong' - follow live

The US president says the UK, Denmark and other European countries will be charged a "10% tariff on any or all goods" exported to the US from 1 February.

www.bbc.com

 

[Ruminations]

The United States doesn't seem to know which way is up anymore.

That is a sad statement.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. I am clear in feeling that threatening Greenland with takeover, and escalating tariffs and isolation from our NATO allies, if they will still have us, is a bad thing. But I don't know if the US does not know which way is up, or if it is just fully embracing the dark side.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I was wondering if that is what the "20 days" is about. See how they go with Venezuela, and if the world doesn't kick up too much of a fuss then go for Greenland.


"Let's talk about Greenland in 20 days," Mr Trump said on Sunday

Top Trump aide says 'nobody's going to fight US' over Greenland takeover bid

Stephen Miller, Mr Trump's chief of staff for policy, said the Trump administration believed Greenland should become an American territory in order for the US to "protect and defend NATO".

www.abc.net.au

NATO should really just dump the US and take in Ukraine, at this point.

The US no longer embraces the spirit of defending sovereign nations. It is invading or threatening foreign nations and territories.

Ukraine might be under severe duress, they sure have a spirit to fight for sovereignty and democracy.


MOO

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

NATO should really just dump the US and take in Ukraine, at this point.

The US no longer embraces the spirit of defending sovereign nations. It is invading or threatening foreign nations and territories.

Ukraine might be under severe duress, they sure have a spirit to fight for sovereignty and democracy.


MOO

bbm
It would be interesting to see how that works out for them. imo

 

[otto]

"The "Defence of Greenland Agreement” gives Washington extensive access to the island, including the right to build bases and facilities, deploy more forces and generally operate as they see fit.

There are very few restrictions on what the US military can do, so long as they do not impinge on the national interest of Denmark or the local population. US personnel are even exempt from local taxation, as is all imported equipment.

In short, the argument that the US would not be able to build bases or deploy forces necessary for the defence of Greenland, or the rest of the continent, is not backed up by the document signed by both governments.

The 1951 treaty concludes by saying that the agreement shall remain in force for as long as the Nato alliance survives. It is this final point which is looking the least certain."

Starmer tells Trump in phone call that plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'wrong' - follow live

The prime minister also tells the US president that security in the Arctic remains a priority "for all Nato allies".

www.bbc.com

That is interesting! That explains why I'm reading that the US government expects NATO to continue even after the use of military aggression to seize Greenland. The US assumes that there is no consequence, BUT Denmark has declared that any aggression towards Greenland means the end of NATO.

The US government expects to do whatever they want with Greenland, they expect the Greenland population and Denmark to stand down, and the US expects NATO to remain intact. How could NATO remain intact after the US has violated Article 2 and Article 5, and after the foundation of the agreement is disregarded?

I suppose that without NATO, the 34 country Coalition of the Willing (includes Canada, excludes US), will assume responsibilities previously held by NATO.

"There are very few restrictions on what the US military can do in Greenland, so long as they do not impinge on the national interest of Denmark or the local population.​

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The 1951 treaty concludes by saying that the agreement shall remain in force for as long as the NATO alliance survives."​

Starmer tells Trump in phone call that plan to apply tariffs over Greenland 'wrong' - follow live

The prime minister also tells the US president that security in the Arctic remains a priority "for all Nato allies".

www.bbc.com

"Denmark has warned that any move against Greenland would mean the end of NATO."​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/denmark-greenland-trump-annexation-nato-9.7045838

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