US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

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Stephen Miller said on Monday night that the annexation of Greenland was now established US policy.

“The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States,” he said.

“There’s no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you’re asking, of a military operation. Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.”

Wanna bet, Stevie? MOO
 
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Stephen Miller said on Monday night that the annexation of Greenland was now established US policy.

“The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States,” he said.

“There’s no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you’re asking, of a military operation. Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.”


Something tells me this has been in the works for a while now. Likely since the beginning of his second term. CIA operatives were in Greenland since as early as May of 2025. I fear they have calculated the risks and decided that they can and will occupy Greenland. It has already been decided. I remember reading about there being there being word of American intelligence operatives in Greenland in spring/summer of last year.

I feel that was a recognizance mission and that the mission was to gather intelligence and then took that time to strategize and weigh out their options. Something tells me this already been decided and now they are looking at various options/ways to justify. Options that will have the least blowback.

Option 1: Use Operatives/Intelligence Agencies to boost Greenland's Independence Movement
It has been widely reported that ‘external forces’ are trying to influence the specifically the indigenous communities there.
Aug 2025 - PBS - Denmark summons U.S. envoy over claims of interference in Greenland
May 2025 - Danish leader says ‘you cannot spy against an ally’ after reports of US gathering intel on Greenland
Auf 2025 - US tells Denmark to ‘Calm Down’ over alleged Greenland influence operation
Denmark's public broadcaster DR quoted sources as saying the aim was to infiltrate society and promote its secession from Denmark to the US, although it was unable to clarify who the men were working for.
A White House official would not confirm an influence campaign was underway, but said: "We think the Danes need to calm down."

Option 2. Bigger Bully Defense
We are seeing this tactic is also being used. Stating Greenland needs to be under American rule to protect it from Russia. We know this doesn’t work because there are American bases there already, and they essentially are allowed full access to the country when it comes to defense anyways.
Trump says his Greenland fixation is about national security. Europeans are skeptical.
“The option of more U.S. military presence has been on the table,” said one of the people, a European defense official. “The White House is not interested.”

most of what Trump says he wants out of Greenland — access to investment resources like critical minerals, more troops and military bases, better intelligence sharing — could be easily accomplished by negotiating directly with Denmark, a steadfast ally.

“The problem is that Trump has gotten into his head that the ‘Donroe Doctrine’ is his thing,” the second person said. “He’s now very focused on this. And it’s hard to come to an agreement with the Danes when Trump thinks he can just take it.”

3. Use of Military Force
This is the last option on the table. The one they don’t want to necessarily use but will if forced to. If they can’t force their will upon others they will use military force instead.
Trump aide Miller says no one would fight US over future of Greenland
One of US President Donald Trump's senior aides has ramped up Washington's threat to take over Greenland, stating on Monday that no one would militarily challenge the United States over the future of the autonomous Danish territory.
My personal concern is that the EU will roll over and allow this to happen. Unfortunately, I don't have faith that anyone will stop him.
 
  • #44
Trump wants Greenland because that's what he feels "is psychologically needed for success." His feelings tell him that his psychological success needs a NATO country. I suppose he's thinking about being the biggest country in the world if he adds US + Greenland. We'll never hear the end of we're the biggest, the best, the greatest!

Very problematic leadership, in my opinion ... invading countries to pamper his feelings.

"When asked what was his higher priority, obtaining Greenland or preserving NATO, Mr. Trump declined to answer directly, but acknowledged “it may be a choice.” He made clear that the trans-Atlantic alliance was essentially useless without the United States at its core.

The president’s insistence that Greenland must become part of the United States was a prime example of his worldview. It was not enough to exercise the U.S. right, under a 1951 treaty, to reopen long-closed military bases on the huge landmass, which is a strategically important crossroads for U.S., European, Chinese and Russian naval operations.

“Ownership is very important,” Mr. Trump said as he discussed, with a real estate mogul’s eye, the landmass of Greenland — three times the size of Texas but with a population of less than 60,000. He seemed to dismiss the value of having Greenland under the control of a close NATO ally.

When asked why he needed to possess the territory, he said: “Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success. I think that ownership gives you a thing that you can’t do with, you’re talking about a lease or a treaty. Ownership gives you things and elements that you can’t get from just signing a document.”

January 8, 2026
Kind of like having the tallest building in NYC after 9/11? Except he didn't? Always gotta be the biggest and best. No one fn cares, except him and his followers, which are dwindling as we speak. IMO
 
  • #45
Something tells me this has been in the works for a while now. Likely since the beginning of his second term. CIA operatives were in Greenland since as early as May of 2025.

Yes, I agree. The NY Times says that Miller spoke with Trump almost every day in the four years between his two presidencies.

 
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Well, the US House of Representatives just passed an act to extend the Obamacare subsidies for another 3 years.

The key is that 17 Republicans defected from Speaker Johnson's cadre to join the Democrats. Now it has to go to the Senate, who I think will also pass it.

They see the midterm bloodbath coming. After Mamdani’s historic victory, republicans have realized that the democrats could win on affordability so they have to play ball.
 
  • #47
Up to $5.6bn for control of Greenland and its (potential) trillions of dollars of untapped resources?
(56,000 people @ $100,000 each)


"U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

While the exact dollar figure and logistics of any payment are unclear, U.S. officials, including White House aides, have discussed figures ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 per person, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations."

 
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Wanna bet, Stevie? MOO
Uh, hopefully the entirety of NATO (excluding the USA of course) will defend Greenland if necessary! (including my country of Canada) if it comes down to it! Hopefully, the idiotic egotistical narcissism by one person will not lead to that.
 
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Up to $5.6bn for control of Greenland and its (potential) trillions of dollars of untapped resources?
(56,000 people @ $100,000 each)


"U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

While the exact dollar figure and logistics of any payment are unclear, U.S. officials, including White House aides, have discussed figures ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 per person, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations."


That might work. The party leader Jens-Friederik Nielsen wants more business to finance Greenland's welfare, and Trump is likely to use this angle to achieve his goals. I don't believe the citizens want this, but I can see how he could persuade their government.

Greenland’s center-right opposition wins closely watched election dominated by Trump’s annexation threat
“We don’t want to be Americans. No, we don’t want to be Danes. We want to be Greenlanders. And we want our own independence in the future. And we want to build our own country by ourselves, not with his hope,”

“People want change.… We want more business to finance our welfare,” Nielsen said, after the results. “We don’t want independence tomorrow, we want a good foundation.”

During an address to Congress last month, Trump claimed to “strongly support” Greenland’s right to self-determination, while also promising that the territory would be his. “We need it really for international world security. And I think we’re going to get it. One way or the other, we’re going to get it,” Trump said.

Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen said that the government would likely continue to to “deal with massive pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump.”

He warned that “it’s not the case that you can just take part of the Danish Realm—the future of Greenland is based on what the Greenlandic people and government want.”
I think Greenland's annexation is inevitable at this point.
 
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That might work. The party leader Jens-Friederik Nielsen wants more business to finance Greenland's welfare, and Trump is likely to use this angle to achieve his goals. I don't believe the citizens want this, but I can see how he could persuade their government.


I think Greenland's annexation is inevitable at this point.
I sure hope not!
 
  • #51
My personal concern is that the EU will roll over and allow this to happen. Unfortunately, I don't have faith that anyone will stop him.
RSBM

Why is it up to the EU to stop Americans from doing exactly as they please? Why are they supposed to fight and die in a war they cannot win, in order to gain nothing?
 
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RSBM

Why is it up to the EU to stop Americans from doing exactly as they please? Why are they supposed to fight and die in a war they cannot win, in order to gain nothing?
Because NATO is a real thing and has been since WWII. If any member is threatened by an unwilling takeover, the other democratic member countries are to band together to defend that member against that. Even though the USA is part of NATO, which the present US prez is ignoring with his threats. I'm putting this very simply, but here is more detailed info. NATO member countries
 
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RSBM

Why is it up to the EU to stop Americans from doing exactly as they please? Why are they supposed to fight and die in a war they cannot win, in order to gain nothing?
I get it. But something has to be done, no?

It sucks to be reminded that we are in the absolute worst timeline.
 
  • #54
Because NATO is a real thing and has been since WWII. If any member is threatened by an unwilling takeover, the other democratic member countries are to band together to defend that member against that. Even though the USA is part of NATO, which the present US prez is ignoring with his threats. I'm putting this very simply, but here is more detailed info. NATO member countries
Yes, that is true of every NATO country - except, IMO, the USA. If the US chooses to violate NATO, other member countries cannot defeat it and force it to conform to NATO, they simply do not have the military power. And they will need what military power they do have, to fend off Russia.
 
  • #55
Yes, that is true of every NATO country - except, IMO, the USA. If the US chooses to violate NATO, other member countries cannot defeat it and force it to conform to NATO.
True. I wonder, why isn't Congress doing anything to stop the prez from sending troops to Venezuela or any other invasions on Trump's own say-so? I had thought there were proper channels to go through like Congress? I'm no expert on any of this!
 
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True. I wonder, why isn't Congress doing anything to stop the prez from sending troops to Venezuela or any other invasions on Trump's own say-so? I had thought there were proper channels to go through like Congress? I'm no expert on any of this!
Congress was not informed about this. Oil companies were, but not Congress. They did not even inform the Director of Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. Likely because she opposes regime change in other countries.

According to the recent Wall Street and Bloomberg report, they cut her out of the entire process. White House aides joked that her title "DNI" stood for Do Not Invite to Venezuela. The United States Director of National Intelligence is usually central to the planning and execution of something like this. It involves the CIA, spies on the ground, intercepting communications, satellite imagery, etc. This is her purview as the principal intelligence advisor to the President. And she was kept out of it.

So who actually is running the intelligence community if its not her?
 
  • #57
Up to $5.6bn for control of Greenland and its (potential) trillions of dollars of untapped resources?
(56,000 people @ $100,000 each)


"U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

While the exact dollar figure and logistics of any payment are unclear, U.S. officials, including White House aides, have discussed figures ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 per person, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations."

If they do not want the money, how does this practically work? hostile occupation?
 
  • #58
If they do not want the money, how does this practically work? hostile occupation?
I don't know, but I don't believe this is mainly about security measures! The USA has had military posts in Greenland since WWII for many years, and even shut down most of them since! They are welcomed by Greenland to have a base and presence there. From everything I've read and heard, Denmark does not want to hand Greenland over to the US! This is mainly about Trump getting his hands on all of the natural resources that it has IMO! Not sure how NATO would handle a hostile takeover if it came to that.
 
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True. I wonder, why isn't Congress doing anything to stop the prez from sending troops to Venezuela or any other invasions on Trump's own say-so? I had thought there were proper channels to go through like Congress? I'm no expert on any of this!
Because he labeled it "law enforcement."

jmo
 
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