US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[BetsieR1]

Come on any minute now!

 

[otto]

I'm just listening to the US president speech at Davos.

If we strip out all the propaganda - the claims that we know are untrue, and all the Biden blaming remarks, does he say anything?

 

[BetsieR1]

I'm just listening to the US president speech at Davos.

If we strip out all the propaganda - the claims that we know are untrue, and all the Biden blaming remarks, does he say anything?

No I checked. It's just a few sniffles and deep breaths and 1 weird spitty sound.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is in full-blown psychosis. Needless to say, this is not my field of expertise but the introductory paragraphs of the Wikipedia article on the subject do seem to fit very well with what we are seeing.

Psychosis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PrairieWind]

Denmark and Greenland have responded to the issue with the statement that, in 2026, we can trade with people, we cannot trade people.

What the US is proposing today is to trade people. That is, the US is proposing that the people of Greenland and their homes, property, lifestyles will be traded to the United States in exchange for money.

People in the US need to wake up and ask themselves - is it okay for their government to trade them, or give them, to China in exchange for money? That is exactly what their government is demanding from Greenlanders - that they be sold to the US.

Isn't that sort of what is going on with Taiwan? They claim to be independent, but the PRC says no. The world and UN sort of sold out the Taiwanese by saying there can't be two Chinas.

 

[otto]

The US Government certainly has a unique view of history.

"Trump reiterated that the US needs Greenland — which he called a big mountain of ice — for its “strategic defense” against any Chinese or Russian attacks.

According to him, World War II proved that Denmark is incapable of defending Greenland. The Germans took Denmark in a day in 1940. "Without us, you'd be speaking German and a little Japanese," Trump said. The Americans then took over the defense of Greenland.

Trump denies that a peaceful transfer is impossible, arguing that countries have done so many times in the past. According to him, the Greenland issue is therefore "not a threat to NATO.
...

Trump cited history to bolster his claim to Greenland: during World War II, the US defended Greenland because Denmark was no longer able to do so. He finds it "ungrateful" that the US received nothing in return.

That's incorrect, because Denmark and the US signed a treaty in 1951 that allows the stationing of American troops. At the height of the Cold War, there were around 10,000 troops stationed in Greenland, and there were 10 bases and another 10 weather and radar stations, but the US itself reduced that to around 150 troops at a single base."

Trump wil onmiddellijk onderhandelen over Groenland, sluit gebruik geweld uit

In een toespraak op het World Economic Forum in Davos zette hij Denemarken opnieuw onder druk: "Je kunt 'ja' zeggen en je kunt 'nee' zeggen, en dat zullen we onthouden."

nos.nl

 

[otto]

Why he needs Greenland for the energy reserves and to change regulations:
"Environmentally they don't let them drill"

He continues his diatribe against wind
"Every time it goes round they lose $1000"
"I haven't been able to find any wind farms in China ... they use a thing called coal mostly"

The claims by the United States president regarding wind farms in China are easily proven to be incorrect. Surely he doesn't expect anyone to believe him.

"Offshore wind farms may do more than boost renewable energy: they might support marine ecosystems, too. That’s the takeaway of a new study conducted in China. The researchers found that wind turbines provided support for colonies of oysters and barnacles and that fish species and biomass were more abundant near the turbines than they were in an area without the machines.

The study counters a frequent criticism of offshore wind farms—that they are detrimental to marine life and may damage the seabed. China, while being the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, is a global leader in renewable energy build-out, including offshore wind projects. It has the largest wind power capacity of any nation and plans to build the world's largest wind turbine.

Offshore Wind Farm in China Becomes a Haven for Oysters, Barnacles, and More, Study Finds

A wind farm off the coast of China appeared to boost fish numbers and supported colonies of oysters and barnacles, according to new research

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[otto]

The rambling is boring ...

 

[Inthedetails]

No I checked. It's just a few sniffles and deep breaths and 1 weird spitty sound.

I heard him say war is bad, so there's that.

jmo

 

[Lebowski]

Just thinking the same. HE makes me sick.

That's a shame if you feel you have to keep your head down. I'd hope most people here in the UK realise not all Americans support what's going on.

there have been a few polls in the US on whether we should attempt to take control of greenland. the numbers are generally 10-20% supporting vs. 60-80% opposing, with the rest made up by unsures.

when the question is whether we should acquire it by force, support drops into single-digits, and opposition approaches 90%.

edit: keeping in mind something like 10% of americans think they could win a fight with a grizzly bear, 90% is about as good as you can expect on anything

 

[Yellowbelly]

It would perhaps help if he could remember which country it is he's not going to invade.

Trump wants 'immediate negotiations' to acquire Greenland but insists he 'won't use force'

In a wide-ranging speech to world leaders in Davos that lasted more than an hour, Trump insists taking Greenland from Denmark "would not be a threat to Nato".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Inthedetails]

there have been a few polls in the US on whether we should attempt to take control of greenland. the numbers are generally 10-20% supporting vs. 60-80% opposing, with the rest made up by unsures.

when the question is whether we should acquire it by force, support drops into single-digits, and opposition approaches 90%.

To put a source on it:

The new polling by CBS News/YouGov shows that 70 percent of Republicans are against Trump utilizing military force to take control of Greenland. Among Democrats, that number is 97 percent, whereas it is 90 percent among independents. Overall, 86 percent of U.S. adults opposed military force against the U.S. ally.

When it comes to the possibility of Trump utilizing federal funds to purchase Greenland, Republicans are much more supportive, with 64 percent saying they'd approve of such a plan. However, most independents and Democrats remain staunchly opposed to the idea—75 percent and 96 percent respectively.

Republicans overwhelmingly against Trump using military to take Greenland

Overall, 86 percent of U.S. adults oppose military force against the NATO ally, according to new polling.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Lebowski]

there were multiple sources, so i got lazy and just summarized them

 

[otto]

It would perhaps help if he could remember which country it is he's not going to invade.

Trump wants 'immediate negotiations' to acquire Greenland but insists he 'won't use force'

In a wide-ranging speech to world leaders in Davos that lasted more than an hour, Trump insists taking Greenland from Denmark "would not be a threat to Nato".

www.bbc.co.uk

Sounds like the strategy of repeating something over and over again until everyone believes that it is true, but it is not true that one NATO country threatening another NATO country does not threaten NATO.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Re Trump's Greenland statement, it's alarming to me how everyone is taking his word on this:

“people thought I would use force. I don’t have to use force. I don’t want to use force. I won’t use force"

He's a proven liar. He lies all the time. You can't believe a word he says.

 

[Lebowski]

i don't think anyone takes his word for it, i think they just can't do anything

 

[LAborn]

People just discovering last land Denmark sold to the US was Epstein Island

As Trump pushes for the U.S. to purchase Greenland, people are realizing the last territory that was purchased from Denmark.

www.newsweek.com

 

[LAborn]

Trump speaking at Davos: '"U.S. probably won't get anything" unless he decided to "use excessive strength and force" that he said would make the U.S. "frankly unstoppable. But I won't do that. OK?" Trump said.'

'He added a minute later: "I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force." WATCH: 'I won't use force' to take Greenland, Trump says at Davos

This sounds very creepy (and a veiled threat) and I don't believe it for a second. Just like he's not using excessive force on US citizens here in the US? WATCH: 'I won't use force' to take Greenland, Trump says at Davos JMO

 

[otto]

Re Trump's Greenland statement, it's alarming to me how everyone is taking his word on this:

“people thought I would use force. I don’t have to use force. I don’t want to use force. I won’t use force"

He's a proven liar. He lies all the time. You can't believe a word he says.

I don't think anyone who pays attention to the US government believes anything that is said by the US government anymore.

According to the US government today, the US was a country in the year 1500 and sent boats to Greenland - therefore the US should own Greenland.

The US government has repeatedly stated that if the Greenland people and their land cannot be sold to the United States, then the US will use military force to steal Greenland from the people of Greenland.

The US government had a compete meltdown over the weekend when NATO launched Arctic training missions around Greenland - reacting by imposing tariffs on 8 NATO countries that participated in the pre-planned NATO mission. The US was aware of the mission for months, but reacted nevertheless as though a NATO training mission was a military threat against the US.

It's a fickle situation.

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[Herat]

Trump speaking at Davos: '"U.S. probably won't get anything" unless he decided to "use excessive strength and force" that he said would make the U.S. "frankly unstoppable. But I won't do that. OK?" Trump said.'

'He added a minute later: "I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force." WATCH: 'I won't use force' to take Greenland, Trump says at Davos

This sounds very creepy (and a veiled threat) and I don't believe it for a second. Just like he's not using excessive force on US citizens here in the US? WATCH: 'I won't use force' to take Greenland, Trump says at Davos JMO

This is how NYC Mob bosses talk. Those are his role models in diplomacy.