US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #561
President Trump says he has the framework of a deal on Greenland and won’t be imposing the tariffs he threatened.

Trump: "Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America, and all NATO Nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the Tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st. Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress. Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations — They will report directly to me. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

They kissed the ring.

jmopinion
 
  • #562
Shouldn't we be focusing on Ukraine, where Russia is systematically trying to destroy the electrical grid and fuel supplies?
Is there a WS thread for Ukraine? I seem to recall one, back when the invasion first happened.

jmo
 
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For this particular speech, they have the excuse that his flight was disrupted and he likely got no sleep. They will excuse it away. In fact, it's probably old news by now, just a few hours after it happened.

jmo
I don't think so. If he was looking for a country that ends in "land", why not Finland, England, Russland? Instead, he's talking about the Island next to Greenland because that Island was perhaps discussed during that flight.
 
  • #565
I sense that calling off the tariffs has more to do with this ... rather than Greenland.


Markets rebound as Trump calls off tariffs on European allies over Greenland

Stocks jumped on Wednesday, soon after the president announced that he would scrap tariffs on European allies after establishing the “framework of a future deal” on Greenland.

My feeling this afternoon is that the leaders from around the world are not going to stand up to him, but are perfectly happy to pretend to be offended and then.....go along with him.

Glad to avert a trade war, though.

jmopinion
 
  • #566
My feeling this afternoon is that the leaders from around the world are not going to stand up to him, but are perfectly happy to pretend to be offended and then.....go along with him.

Glad to avert a trade war, though.

jmopinion

It is possible that there may be a "cold war" if he takes over Greenland. The EU has an enormous amount of people - limiting their ability to purchase US items may cause the US some pain.

imo
 
  • #567
Is there a WS thread for Ukraine? I seem to recall one, back when the invasion first happened.

jmo
Not for quite a long time. It got too heated for the mods to deal with.
 
  • #568
Already praising himself and his Davos speech.

“We had a good speech, we got great reviews. I can’t believe it, we got good reviews on that speech,” Trump said on Wednesday...“Usually they say ‘he’s a horrible dictator-type person,’ I’m a dictator,” Trump continued. “But sometimes you need a dictator! But they didn’t say that in this case.... It’s all based on common sense, it’s not conservative or liberal, or anything else.”

This kind of talk—which Trump has all but normalized—sheds further light on his aggressive, antagonistic approach to diplomacy, especially after spending the morning threatening Europe, Canada, Greenland, and, bizarrely, Iceland.


Trump declared that he is a dictator, because sometimes you need a dictator?
Is that another "joke" from the US president?

Annexing Canada was a joke, until it wasn't.
Annexing Greenland was a joke, until it wasn't.
Annexing Iceland is mis-speak?
 
  • #569
I think that Iceland should take that as fair warning that the US is coming after Iceland next.
We didn't even know about Iceland until the orange idiot started saying it accidentally.
 
  • #570
I think that Iceland should take that as fair warning that the US is coming after Iceland next.
Wisely so.

But I'm remembering the presser where he went hard against Tylenol after he messed up the word acetaminophen. (The presser with RFKjr about autism.) It was easier to just to Tylenol. I am wondering if he said Iceland today because he got Iceland and Greenland mixed up and he tried to cover by calling Greenland a piece of ice.

Ridiculous to give this much thought to it, tbh.

jmopinion
 
  • #571
I don't think so. If he was looking for a country that ends in "land", why not Finland, England, Russland? Instead, he's talking about the Island next to Greenland because that Island was perhaps discussed during that flight.
Yes, but in that post I was speculating how his speech will be explained away and not addressed by CONGRESS, in response to a post about Congress, not that I personally agree with any excuses.


jmo
 
  • #572
It is possible that there may be a "cold war" if he takes over Greenland. The EU has an enormous amount of people - limiting their ability to purchase US items may cause the US some pain.

imo
Or... Europe just dumps all US Treasury bonds ($8 trillion) and the dollar tanks, our economy tanks and we enter another depression. But I would hope that tRump pulls a taco before that happens & spins it as some sort of win.
 
  • #573
President Trump says he has the framework of a deal on Greenland and won’t be imposing the tariffs he threatened.

Trump: "Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America, and all NATO Nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the Tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st. Additional discussions are being held concerning The Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available as discussions progress. Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations — They will report directly to me. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

That doesn't make any sense. The "golden dome" is not real. It's a hope that at some time in the future the existing Iron Dome (with a detection range from launch is 45 miles) will have a longer detection range.

Canada is not yet interested in investing in the dome project, and has instead made arrangement with Australia for long range missile detection. Why is Trump announcing that Greenland will purchase, or cooperate, with the dome? Did Rutte suggest that NATO will invest in the US dome project for future implementation in Greenland?

The US wants billions to develop and build the project.

Any thoughts on what Mark Rutte said to Trump to trigger Trump's declaration about that there is something in the works with Greenland and Trump's dome?

"Canada will need to pay US$71 billion to be included in the Golden Dome defence system, U.S. President Donald Trump revealed."

June 2025

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I sense that calling off the tariffs has more to do with this ... rather than Greenland. (imo)


Markets rebound as Trump calls off tariffs on European allies over Greenland

Stocks jumped on Wednesday, soon after the president announced that he would scrap tariffs on European allies after establishing the “framework of a future deal” on Greenland.

Him and his friends made money again, this seems to always happen for them! IMO
 
  • #576
That's not a deal, that's how it has been since NATO was formed ... an infinite deal until one NATO country attacks another NATO country.

"The NATO countries will "jointly" defend Greenland and the Arctic. This is the focus of the discussions that the United States and Denmark are now about to begin.

NATO chief Mark Rutte clarified this after US President Donald Trump mentioned a framework for "a future agreement regarding Greenland".

Trump and the NATO Secretary General discussed the dispute that had erupted between the US and Denmark over Greenland at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland. A satisfied Trump stated afterward that talks are now underway, which should lead to a deal on the island. "

 
  • #577
This is how NYC Mob bosses talk. Those are his role models in diplomacy.
Abusive spouses also use this technique.

Nothing is scarier than someone who keeps talking about the force they have at their disposal, and then sets up to discredit the target of that force when they attempt to gather support and safety by saying, "I said I wasn't going to use that force!"

MOO
 
  • #578
Trump declared that he is a dictator, because sometimes you need a dictator?
Is that another "joke" from the US president?

Annexing Canada was a joke, until it wasn't.
Annexing Greenland was a joke, until it wasn't.
Annexing Iceland is mis-speak?
there is a new US envoy going to Iceland- not until March. He is from LA- one of the hottest states in the US so hope he can acclimate. He has said a few things already.

Anger in Iceland over incoming US ambassador's '52nd ...​

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › world › jan › anger-icel...




6 days ago — Thousands of people have signed a petition expressing anger after Donald Trump's nominee for ambassador to Iceland reportedly joked that the ...
 
  • #579
That doesn't make any sense. The "golden dome" is not real. It's a hope that at some time in the future the existing Iron Dome (with a detection range from launch is 45 miles) will have a longer detection range.

Canada is not yet interested in investing in the dome project, and has instead made arrangement with Australia for long range missile detection. Why is Trump announcing that Greenland will purchase, or cooperate, with the dome? Did Rutte suggest that NATO will invest in the US dome project for future implementation in Greenland?

The US wants billions to develop and build the project.

Any thoughts on what Mark Rutte said to Trump to trigger Trump's declaration about that there is something in the works with Greenland and Trump's dome?

"Canada will need to pay US$71 billion to be included in the Golden Dome defence system, U.S. President Donald Trump revealed."

June 2025

~ in my opinion ~
what is Canada's current GNP?
 
  • #580
there is a new US envoy going to Iceland- not until March. He is from LA- one of the hottest states in the US so hope he can acclimate. He has said a few things already.

Anger in Iceland over incoming US ambassador's '52nd ...

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › world › jan › anger-icel...




6 days ago — Thousands of people have signed a petition expressing anger after Donald Trump's nominee for ambassador to Iceland reportedly joked that the ...
The envoy from Louisiana was uninvited. He was going to attend a dog race in March, but has been uninvited. An article is linked upthread.
 
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