US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[AppleTreeGreen]

he made the case for a U.S. acquisition of Greenland, Trump said he needs the Danish territory for his proposed "golden dome,"

Unfortunately, Greenlanders often seemed left out of the public and political discourse when it comes to the future of their own country. It is their land, their territory and it should ultimately be their decision. For example, he stated today he needs Greenland to actualize his dreams for the golden dome as though his fantasies would ever or should ever take priority over the rights and wishes of the native 56,000 Greenlandic people or entitles him to violate Greenland’s sovereignty. His dreams and desires are not their problem and they have made it quite clear they are not interested in becoming part of the United States of America, according to ABC News. In other words, he doesn’t need the golden dome but he does he need accept that the people of Greenland said no.

I am seeking immediate negotiations to once again discuss the acquisition of Greenland by the United States,” Trump said

According to Aljazeer, the people of Greenland have already rejected the idea of becoming part of America or the notion that it could or should be acquired either through force or being bought. So what more is there to discuss? No means no and we should respect the people of Greenland, their government and the fact that the right and power to determine fate of the country and land of Greenland as whole belongs to them and only them first.

Whatever his national security concerns and needs are there are far better ways to address and cope with them besides trying to undermine and take control of a sovereign state

https://twitter.com/x/status/2014020416860573726

Greenland is an island covered by a sheet of ice but even so even it was just “a piece of ice” then why is he so obsessed with it? If a piece of ice with a flare for starting drama is all he is really looking for can’t he just purchase the iceberg that sank the Titanic so that we can all move on?

Also for a country he has seeming been obsessed over and claims absolutely needs to be annexed to US, even at the expense of breaking with NATO and the consideration of the use of military force to claim dominion over, due to national security concerns it is startling he seemingly can’t even really remember its name or repeatedly confuses it with and refers to it as Iceland. How essential can it really be to acquire if his memory just whittles it down to a big piece of ice in his head?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/greenland-relegated-stepping-stone-trump-europe-standoff-party/story

Greenland’s strategic position in seven maps: Why Trump wants the island

The world’s largest island sits in the Arctic Circle and is strategically and economically valuable.

www.aljazeera.com

JMO/speculation

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Trump continued. “But sometimes you need a dictator!

And sometimes Trump reminds us that not everyone is meant to be a leader and the type qualities you do and do not want to find in someone dictating the future of America or the county you call home.

MOO

 

[acutename]

The envoy from Louisiana was uninvited. He was going to attend a dog race in March, but has been uninvited. An article is linked upthread.

hopefully he understands that in Iceland if you are disinvited to the dog sled race, they really do not like your approach

 

[Inthedetails]

hopefully he understands that in Iceland if you are disinvited to the dog sled race, they really do not like your approach

I was referring to the envoy (Landry) from Louisiana who was heading to Greenland for the dog race but was disinvited. When you mentioned "envoy," that who I thought of. The ambassador to Iceland is another jokester not serious about the job.

And, yes, I hope he realizes a dis-invite is a dis.

jmopinion

 

[acutename]

I was referring to the envoy (Landry) from Louisiana who was heading to Greenland for the dog race but was disinvited. When you mentioned "envoy," that who I thought of. The ambassador to Iceland is another jokester not serious about the job.

And, yes, I hope he realizes a dis-invite is a dis.

jmopinion

Usha got disinvited to the dog sled race last year. Don't they see a pattern? They should have some dogs in the race. IMO

 

[Lebowski]

That doesn't make any sense. The "golden dome" is not real. It's a hope that at some time in the future the existing Iron Dome (with a detection range from launch is 45 miles) will have a longer detection range.

Canada is not yet interested in investing in the dome project, and has instead made arrangement with Australia for long range missile detection. Why is Trump announcing that Greenland will purchase, or cooperate, with the dome? Did Rutte suggest that NATO will invest in the US dome project for future implementation in Greenland?

The US wants billions to develop and build the project.

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~ in my opinion ~​

BBM, SBM

i could be wrong, but i am guessing golden dome is going to be partly/mostly made up of existing missile defense programs that the US has been developing for decades. the systems have evolved and shifted goals several times, and some of the goals are still far off, but the system(s) we have are quite complex, multi-layered, and far along. IIRC, some of them go all the way back to reagan's SDI. ... anyway, if my assumption is right, to a degree it already exists.

right now, if someone shoots a short range or theater missile at the US, or (depending on specifics) some allies, it will probably get shot down. ICBM's are tougher for various reasons, one being that they go so much faster than the others. if someone fires a single one at the US, with no tricks to foil our system, and no MIRVs, we stand a decent chance of shooting it down. if someone fires a bunch at once to overwhelm the system, or uses countermeasures, or uses MIRVs -- and all three would likely apply to a strike from russia or china -- we can't stop it. IIRC, the concepts for getting better at shooting down ICBMs involve space-based interceptors, airborne lasers, and/or space-based lasers. golden dome might add some layers like that (my speculation).

 

[Kaley Smith]

They kissed the ring.

jmopinion

I don't see it that way. Trump isn't getting anything that wasn't available to the USA before all of his threats. He backed down because countries stood up to him, and he realized he wasn't getting Greenland.

 

[outback]

Continuing his defense for wanting to take over Greenland:

"After the war, which we won, we won it big. Without us, right now, you‘d all be speaking German and a little Japanese, perhaps. "

Does this idiot not realize he is currently in a German speaking country? My god.

He's just stealing a line from Karoline Leavitt. I remember thinking how hateful it was when she said it to France.

MSN

Jmo

 

[branmuffin]

Craziest headline I've seen in a long time.

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Mob boss tactics.

 

[Kemug]

there is a new US envoy going to Iceland- not until March. He is from LA- one of the hottest states in the US so hope he can acclimate. He has said a few things already.
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Does anyone else remember when diplomats used to be diplomatic?

 

[sapphire blue]

Does anyone else remember when diplomats used to be diplomatic?

I certainly do. Likewise the politicians and diplomats (aust) used to be statesmen who had experience and respect.

 

[Kemug]

They had been trained to be diplomats, not just plucked from a TV show, or because they were somebody's suckerup buddy. They certainly didn't say things like "Where's the gratitude?", and "We'll have you for our 51st state, ha ha!"

 

[Charlot123]

Isn't that sort of what is going on with Taiwan? They claim to be independent, but the PRC says no. The world and UN sort of sold out the Taiwanese by saying there can't be two Chinas.

Yes, and I am afraid to even imagine what plans PRC might be harboring now, tbh. I visited Taiwan, loved it and I was scared for it since the very beginning of the Greenland saga.

 

[Gators North]

Does anyone else remember when diplomats used to be diplomatic?

Yes, but I’m old, so we’re going back a long time lol.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

 

[Moll]

Is the reference in the NY Post article to the US having sovereignty over its bases? Doesn't this happen already ? I have a vague idea it does in the UK but am not sure exactly how it works. It's a matter of leases anyway not ownership.

 

[Moll]

What a pity discussions couldn't have been conducted in the polite and understated way in which Canada and Denmark settled their old border dispute on Hans Island in 2022! It's remarkable how close Canada and Denmark/Greenland are, through their most northerly territories. Whereas the US, despite various lies from Trump, is further away from Greenland than a number of other countries - Iceland, Norway, Denmark, the UK etc...

On tiny Hans Island, Denmark and Canada create world's newest land border

A dispute marked by flags and booze has been replaced with an official land border on Hans Island, located between Canada and Denmark.

bigthink.com

Canada and Denmark end decades-long dispute over barren rock in Arctic

Hans Island ‘whisky war’ – described by some as a ‘pseudo-confrontation’ – ends after formal division agreed

www.theguardian.com

As Canada Sides with Greenland and Denmark, a Reminder of the 'Whisky War' - Policy Magazine

 

[Inthedetails]

They had been trained to be diplomats, not just plucked from a TV show, or because they were somebody's suckerup buddy. They certainly didn't say things like "Where's the gratitude?", and "We'll have you for our 51st state, ha ha!"

^^ This ^^

 

[Yellowbelly]

Is the reference in the NY Post article to the US having sovereignty over its bases? Doesn't this happen already ? I have a vague idea it does in the UK but am not sure exactly how it works. It's a matter of leases anyway not ownership.

The base they've currently got on Greenland (Pituffik) is leased from Denmark and remains Danish territory. What the new deal seems to envisage is something more akin to the British Sovereign Base Areas on Cyprus, which are official British territory, rather than being a leased part of the Republic of Cyprus.

Akrotiri and Dhekelia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Inthedetails]

The heads of all 27 European Union member states will gather in Brussels on Thursday for what the body is calling an "extraordinary" summit regarding the recent crisis in transatlantic relations prompted by U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to acquire Greenland.

European leaders to gather in Brussels to 'coordinate' plans on Trump, Greenland

The heads of all 27 European Union member states will gather in Brussels on Thursday for an extraordinary summit regarding the recent crisis in transatlantic relations.

abcnews.go.com