Identified! UT - Beaver Co., WhtFem UP12045, 18-40, on train, Jan'14 - Amber Brown

[jenstar]

Taking off her clothes is definitely an interesting possibility!

Years ago I went on the back of a motorcycle with a half helmet. The faster we went, the harder it was for me to breathe normally. At one point I felt like I was gulping in air.

I wonder how fast those trains go. Although, she had the option to turn away from the wind if she had trouble breathing.


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from what I've been able to decipher 90 mph is the top speed they can legally go (Going by the Cali to Santa Fe route only because it says BNSF UP owns the rail). Correct me if I'm wrong though. I'm trying to figure the amount of G-force that puts on the human body..although, I'm no math whiz. I know that people can go 90 for an extended period of time; but something about it when I looked up g-force says that vibration can cause major damage. After that I'll figure out the weather and the timing to see what her "condition" was leaving Las Vegas and during the ride. Always MOO unless link provided.

 

[Fairy1]

Everyone does deserve a name. But not everyone has a family that is missing or looking for them. That is a sad fact.

 

[EmiLove832]

Rail speed limits in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

from what I've been able to decipher 90 mph is the top speed they can legally go (Going by the Cali to Santa Fe route only because it says BNSF UP owns the rail). Correct me if I'm wrong though. I'm trying to figure the amount of G-force that puts on the human body..although, I'm no math whiz. I know that people can go 90 for an extended period of time; but something about it when I looked up g-force says that vibration can cause major damage. After that I'll figure out the weather and the timing to see what her "condition" was leaving Las Vegas and during the ride. Always MOO unless link provided.

90 MPH on the back of a motorcycle was terrifying! The idiot guy I was with thought it would impress me to do 110 out in the middle of no where with no street lights. I was close to the ground on a street bike. I can't imagine what the top of the train would feel like. Scary!

 

[jenstar]

Yea, it would have had to been exposure the more I think about it. (I just wanted to see what the physical aspect of the ride itself would do to the body. I spoke to my DH and he said that vibration wouldn't have been enough to kill her going top speed 90mph. He has a friend that worked on the railroad and they have to test their equipment regularly (by riding them, no less.) But a jerky stop? Maybe knocking herself out is a possibility too. mOO

 

[jenstar]

90 MPH on the back of a motorcycle was terrifying! The idiot guy I was with thought it would impress me to do 110 out in the middle of no where with no street lights. I was close to the ground on a street bike. I can't imagine what the top of the train would feel like. Scary!

Haha then you don't want to go 120 through Detroits busy freeways. My ex got me to work 5 minutes early that day even though I woke up late. That was a ride. All he said was "open your helmet port,lean forward with me,close your eyes and hang on." lol

 

[ZannO]

I noticed what I thought was eyeliner/tightlining too. This suggests not being a homeless person, and someone who is most likely youngish to know that particular technique.

You don't have to be young to know that!

 

[EmiLove832]

Haha then you don't want to go 120 through Detroits busy freeways. My ex got me to work 5 minutes early that day even though I woke up late. That was a ride. All he said was "open your helmet port,lean forward with me,close your eyes and hang on." lol

If I trusted the guy and had a full helmet on, it would've been a different story. Funny thing is a week later, he fell off his bike and dislocated his shoulder.

How long does it typically take for the tox report to come back?

 

[EmiLove832]

What about Mary Lou Wilbanks?

She has been missing since 2012 from Las Vegas. Her photo shows black/dark brown hair but her file says strawberry blonde. She has blue eyes, her photo shows acne on her forehead and she is listed at 66" tall. 2" height difference.

Mary Lou Wilbanks had two facial piercings but if she had removed them, they may not be noticeable with all of the damage to Doe's face.

What do you all think?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/18837/6/

Has anyone had a chance to check out Mary Lou? I wish there were more photos. Drug use could've dramatically changed her look.

 

[jenstar]

http://www.wunderground.com/history...y=Las+Vegas&req_state=NV&req_statename=Nevada
I know someone already said this but the high that day in Vegas was only 65f.
It dipped from 45 to 30 between 1 and 5 am. Then rose steadily to 65 by 3pm. That had to be chilly.

 

[jenstar]

Has anyone had a chance to check out Mary Lou? I wish there were more photos. Drug use could've dramatically changed her look.

IDK if she was mentioned or not..but the eyebrows don't sell me IMHO. Mary's are really dark and the UID is like a strawberry blondish. Then again I've never seen anyone with a piercing under their eye..I think namus is confused lol.

 

[jenstar]

How long does it typically take for the tox report to come back?

RSBM
They said it'd take about 3 weeks. Which if they submitted it SOP after Jan 13th, you'd think they'd have it back by now? I mean, it's been a month since she was found. Unless it takes 6 weeks..in that case we're still waiting.MOO

 

[EmiLove832]

IDK if she was mentioned or not..but the eyebrows don't sell me IMHO. Mary's are really dark and the UID is like a strawberry blondish. Then again I've never seen anyone with a piercing under their eye..I think namus is confused lol.

She dyed her hair dark so she could've dyed her eyebrows to match.

Dermal piercings are quite popular. Here is a photo of the under the eye dermal.



Also, dermals don't leave scars like a regular piercing does. It could look like a tiny crater or just a bump.

 

[Fairy1]

Driving in a car, it's 226 miles or less than four hours from Vegas to Beaver, UT. Not sure how fast the trains travel, but it would have gotten colder and colder as it went north.

 

[CarlK90245]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the temperature low for Milford Utah on 13-Jan-2014 was 16° F. And that doesn't include the wind-chill.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Tem...la:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

You don't last long in 16° air with a 60 mph wind, especially considering what she was wearing.

 

[musicaljoke]

I wonder if she could be Amanda King, who went missing from a rehab centre for drug dependency in NY last October.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23038/1/

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12045

What do you think? The picture of Amanda without her glasses sure looks like Train Jane to me. The physical traits match, but there's no mention of the peace sign tattoo. Maybe someone could post a side by side? I don't know how to do that.

There's another druggie look picture of Amanda at the fb missing page.

https://www.facebook.com/amandakingmissing

 

[astridxx]

I wonder if she could be Amanda King, who went missing from a rehab centre for drug dependency in NY last October.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23038/1/

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12045

What do you think? The picture of Amanda without her glasses sure looks like Train Jane to me. The physical traits match, but there's no mention of the peace sign tattoo. Maybe someone could post a side by side? I don't know how to do that.

There's another druggie look picture of Amanda at the fb missing page.

https://www.facebook.com/amandakingmissing

Only here for the term "train jane" -- I LOVE it!!!! You've coined a name for her

I like AK for train jane -- the hairline is similar. I'll have to take a closer look when I get to work. Too bad we don't have details on her teeth -- even though TJ had "meth teeth" she also had a straggler on the bottom row that isn't caused by drug use.

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[Pinkruby]

I keep going back to Samantha Gonzales. The chin and the hairline stand out to me. I wish there were other images of her. Although the one image that is on NamUs shows us that she was a fan of eyeliner. And I agree that this "train jane" looked as though she had tight lined eyeliner on.

 

[gnsndr33]

i wonder if she could be amanda king, who went missing from a rehab centre for drug dependency in ny last october.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23038/1/

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12045

what do you think? The picture of amanda without her glasses sure looks like train jane to me. The physical traits match, but there's no mention of the peace sign tattoo. Maybe someone could post a side by side? I don't know how to do that.

There's another druggie look picture of amanda at the fb missing page.

https://www.facebook.com/amandakingmissing

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[astridxx]

NV NV - Kayla Denboer, 21, Reno, May 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

How about Kayla Den Boer from Reno, NV.?

This could be a total long shot but the height and weight aren't off by much and it looks like as of mid-2013 she was still missing. The hairline matches but the hair color doesn't... and the eyebrows obviously are darker on Kayla, but, eyebrows can be colored.

Nevermind. She appears to have a large tattoo on her ribcage.


Also, maybe she was trying to get home from Vegas, and that's why she hopped the train? It would be helpful to know where the train was headed after it stopped in Milford. I'm trying to follow the tracks on google maps and it looks like the only direction the tracks run is north/south.

 

[FL Wannabe]

The whole eyeliner thing - has anyone considered permanent cosmetic AKA tattooed eyeliner? That would mean she didn't need access to cosmetics prior to going missing since it would always be there. Just a thought.