UT - Charlie Kirk Murdered on Utah College Stage *Arrest* #2

[NuttMegg]

What's decent in one household is anathema in another. And that doesn't necessarily follow that both homes are either bad or good. I think we'll get a better picture from the more accurate MSM who will investigate the shooter and his family's core beliefs.

Agreed. I'm far far more disturbed about the mass shooters. i can never.forget that one of those Sandy Hook 6 year olds was shot 11 times. People in malls, churches, rock concerts.

Before someone accuses me of being in favor of political assassinations, obviously I'm not. I just don't see an end to historic targeted political killings.

But we have the means to prevent the mass shootings and we don't.

 

[JennieM]

Tyler Robinson to be charged with aggravated murder
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We can bring you more details on Tyler Robinson's arrested from the booking sheet obtained by CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

Robinson is due to be charged with the following:

• Aggravated murder
• Obstruction of justice - Capital/First degree felony conduct
• Felony discharge of firearm - Causing serious bodily injury

As we previously reported, the Utah county attorney's office plans to formally file charges on Tuesday.

Tyler Robinson, 22, named as Charlie Kirk's murder suspect - follow live

Tyler Robinson's father recognised his son from pictures released by the FBI - he then turned him in with the help of a friend, a youth pastor.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[NyxNY]

There was no MSM link on the post I quoted.

It was in the press conference this morning.

 

[JennieM]

New details emerge of Robinson's confession and arrest
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With Tyler Robinson in custody, more details are emerging about the lead-up to his arrest.

As we've already reported, Robinson's father recognised his son when the FBI released pictures of the suspect on Thursday.

According to the BBC's US partner CBS News, sources say Robinson admitted to his father that he was the person in the photos.

Robinson's father told his son he should hand himself in. But Robinson said he would rather take his own life.

The father than called a youth pastor, who is close to Tyler Robinson and his family. The pastor, and Tyler's father, tried to calm him down.

The pastor called the US Marshals. The Marshals then detained Robinson, who kept him secure until the FBI came and took the 22-year-old into custody.

Tyler Robinson, 22, named as Charlie Kirk's murder suspect - follow live

Tyler Robinson's father recognised his son from pictures released by the FBI - he then turned him in with the help of a friend, a youth pastor.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 370998]

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson was raised a devout Mormon — yet fired his fatal shot at Kirk just moments after the conservative influencer had glowingly praised the Church of Latter-day Saints.

“I love how Mormons send missionaries around the world, I love how polite they are. … Half my team is Mormon,” Kirk, 31, said to huge cheers from the crowd at Utah Valley University moments before he was allegedly killed by the 22-year-old trade-school student.

Exclusive | Tyler Robinson was raised Mormon — and allegedly killed Charlie Kirk moments after influencer praised the church

Footage from Kirk’s final event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday shows him bantering with a member of the Mormon faith in the crowd.

nypost.com

 

[Skigh]

'Killer's' voting habits revealed following Charlie Kirk assassination

Tyler Robinson, 22, was turned into police overnight by his father and a minister in southern Utah after authorities shared images of the shooter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Police have evacuated the area around Tyler Robinson's family home after receiving 'concerning information' from the residence.

Investigators have not revealed what exactly raised concern, but said the information came from directly in front of the residence. A police helicopter is flying over the neighborhood and reporters have been told to clear the area, Fox News reports.

 

[Jw192]

Tyler Robinson to be charged with aggravated murder​

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We can bring you more details on Tyler Robinson's arrested from the booking sheet obtained by CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

Robinson is due to be charged with the following:

• Aggravated murder
• Obstruction of justice - Capital/First degree felony conduct
• Felony discharge of firearm - Causing serious bodily injury

As we previously reported, the Utah county attorney's office plans to formally file charges on Tuesday.

Tyler Robinson, 22, named as Charlie Kirk's murder suspect - follow live

Tyler Robinson's father recognised his son from pictures released by the FBI - he then turned him in with the help of a friend, a youth pastor.

www.bbc.co.uk

You just know the feds are gonna find a way to wiggle in and find a loop hole to whack a terrorism charge in there

 

[rescuemom]

I think, respectfully, you might be missing the point some of the other posters are making. Even if we agree the shooting was politically motivated and not, say, for notoriety like with Trump's would-be shooter, there’s still a lot we don’t know. We don’t fully understand which specific aspects of Charlie Kirk’s ideology or politics the shooter disagreed with, or what particular elements might have motivated the shooting. It’s important to acknowledge what we don't know, before jumping to conclusions about the shooter’s exact motivations or personal beliefs.

MOO

Even if we agree the shooting was politically motivated and not, say, for notoriety like with Trump's would-be shooter, there’s still a lot we don’t know.

So we know Trump's would be shooter was looking for notoriety????? Would be shooter??? did I miss something??

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Tyler Robinson to be charged with aggravated murder​

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We can bring you more details on Tyler Robinson's arrested from the booking sheet obtained by CBS News, the BBC's US partner.

Robinson is due to be charged with the following:

• Aggravated murder
• Obstruction of justice - Capital/First degree felony conduct
• Felony discharge of firearm - Causing serious bodily injury

As we previously reported, the Utah county attorney's office plans to formally file charges on Tuesday.

Tyler Robinson, 22, named as Charlie Kirk's murder suspect - follow live

Tyler Robinson's father recognised his son from pictures released by the FBI - he then turned him in with the help of a friend, a youth pastor.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hhhmmm not 1st degree murder? Maybe they are worried of a legal loophole he'll get off so going with aggravated murder?

 

[Jw192]

'Killer's' voting habits revealed following Charlie Kirk assassination

Tyler Robinson, 22, was turned into police overnight by his father and a minister in southern Utah after authorities shared images of the shooter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Police have evacuated the area around Tyler Robinson's family home after receiving 'concerning information' from the residence.

Investigators have not revealed what exactly raised concern, but said the information came from directly in front of the residence. A police helicopter is flying over the neighborhood and reporters have been told to clear the area, Fox News reports.

What on earth is going on there?!

I hope nobody is doing anything to target TR's family

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Even if we agree the shooting was politically motivated and not, say, for notoriety like with Trump's would-be shooter, there’s still a lot we don’t know.

So we know Trump's would be shooter was looking for notoriety????? Would be shooter??? did I miss something??

I was referring to the assassination attempt on Trump last year, I apologize for not being more clear!

 

[StackEye476]

Even if we agree the shooting was politically motivated and not, say, for notoriety like with Trump's would-be shooter, there’s still a lot we don’t know.

So we know Trump's would be shooter was looking for notoriety????? Would be shooter??? did I miss something??

Sorry, guess I meant would be killer? That he wanted infamy and seems to have operated from some failure to start scenario seems to be the best theory out there at the moment. It didn't appear to be ideologically motivated.

 

[NuttMegg]

Hhhmmm not 1st degree murder? Maybe they are worried of a legal loophole he'll get off so going with aggravated murder?

There isn't any first degree murder, aggravated can receive the dp. Aggravated is only capitol felony.

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[JennieM]

Arrows marking on ammunition appeared linked to Bafta-winning game​

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IMAGE SOURCE, GETTY IMAGES

As we reported earlier, law enforcement has found markings on ammunition inside the rifle recovered into this case, including an up, right, and three down arrows.

It appears these arrows are linked to video gaming.

The arrow symbols match the input needed to use a stratagem in the video game Helldivers 2.

That stratagem, Eagle 500kg Bomb, external, is considered one of the most destructive special moves in the game.

The game, which won two Bafta awards earlier this year, was a smash hit. Set in a satirical universe inspired by the 1990s sci-fi film Starship Troopers, players can team up with friends or strangers to kill big insects and robots.

Notably, the theme of the game includes some political references. On its Steam page, there is a description which says:

"Freedom. Peace. Democracy.

"Your Super Earth-born rights.

"The key pillars of our civilisation.

"Of our very existence.

"But the war rages on. And everything is once again under threat.

"Join the greatest military force the galaxy has ever seen and make this a safe and free place to live."

Tyler Robinson, 22, named as Charlie Kirk's murder suspect - follow live

Tyler Robinson's father recognised his son from pictures released by the FBI - he then turned him in with the help of a friend, a youth pastor.

www.bbc.co.uk

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Casing inscriptions suggest possible link to video game - report​

The Verge has been reporting on the engravings of several bullet casings found by the shooter’s weapon at Utah Valley University.

They report that that one of them, which reads “Hey fascist! Catch!” – followed by up arrow, right arrow and three down arrow symbols – is noteworthy because it’s the “combination sequence for calling the Eagle 500kg Bomb stratagem” in the video game Helldivers 2.

The third-person shooter game features soldiers who are tasked with trying to fight alien-like creatures that have taken over in the name of “democracy”.

References to “O Bella Ciao” (another engraving on one of the bullet casings) is referenced in the video game too.

As of now, law enforcement officials have not confirmed this link.

Charlie Kirk shooting latest: Utah governor confirms identity of suspect and says family friend turned him in

Spencer Cox says Tyler Robinson, 22, told family friend he had shot Kirk; FBI director says suspect was taken into custody on Thursday evening

www.theguardian.com

 

[PrairieWind]

Perhaps the govenor is feeling a tad insecure,? (Wouldn't blame if he was, kinda scary to go out and make speechs).

I didn't understand this. What is the Governor insecure about?

 

[Skigh]

What on earth is going on there?!

I hope nobody is doing anything to target TR's family

I am wondering if TR had some bomb making materials hidden in his bedroom which have just been discovered in a search.

 

[Acedia]

This happened at my campus… We are all in shock. I haven't had time to read the stuff about this event here as I have been volunteering to help at UVU during this time, so forgive me if the following has already been said. I do not think this post should be controversial yet I fear it will be even though I am presenting nothing but facts while maintaining empathy for this tragedy.

What happened is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to Charlie Kirk and his family. He did not deserve what happened to him. No one deserves such a fate.

What I am about to share is about Kirk's life, NOT about his death. I'm firmly in the camp that this should not have happened, no matter what.

This post is about how I want to respond to a narrative I’m seeing everywhere right now, especially across social media and news outlets, suggesting that Charlie was killed because he was outspoken about his conservative values.

As someone who’s lived in this community and been aware of Charlie Kirk’s platform for a long time, I feel pretty confident saying the overwhelming dislike of CK from many communities is not about him “being conservative.”

Charlie Kirk didn’t build his brand on calm policy discussion or thoughtful disagreement.

Kirk built a public career around provoking outrage, not offering respectful political dialogue. His entire brand centered on targeting vulnerable groups, often by going to college campuses like mine and saying things that were cruel, dismissive, or deliberately inflammatory, not as policy discussion, but as spectacle.

At campus events and Turning Point USA conferences, Charlie Kirk has:

• Mocked trans students, calling gender identity “a delusion” and refusing to use students' pronouns when asked, even while looking them in the eye. He once told a trans student during a live event, “I won’t participate in your fantasy.”
• Told a Muslim student during a debate that “Islam is the most violent religion in the world” and refused to acknowledge her points on peaceful Islamic practice. He also tweeted: “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.”
• Laughed at a student in tears who asked about LGBTQ suicide rates, responding by saying, “That’s not my problem — I don’t make people kill themselves.”
• Referred to peaceful protesters as “violent, ungrateful brats” and said that undocumented students should be “deported on the spot”

These aren’t misquotes or exaggerations — many of these clips are on YouTube and circulated widely in student communities. He wanted to provoke this kind of attention. A month or so ago, I was part of a group of concerned students who were respectfully advocating to get his event cancelled before it could happen, due to the kind of hateful rhetoric he would spread.

Let me be clear again: No one deserves to die violently let alone violently and publicly, and I pray for peace and healing for his loved ones. Simultaneously, I believe that how someone dies should not erase accountability for how they lived.

There’s a lot of danger in sanitizing a public figure’s legacy just because their death was tragic. We can mourn a life lost while still being honest about the harm that person caused while they were here.

Charlie Kirk wasn’t hated for just being conservative. He was disliked and even feared because of how he spoke to and about people. Because of how he chose cruelty over compassion. That is not a left or right issue. That’s basic humanity.

A few sources:
Charlie Kirk Continues Transphobic Tirade at CU Boulder
Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’
Islam: Incompatible with the West, Incompatible with Civilization - The Charlie Kirk Show

 

[NuttMegg]

WSJ Blasted for Inaccurately Reporting Charlie Kirk Shooter Had ‘Transgender’ Writing on Bullets

The Wall Street Journal has come under fire for prematurely reporting that Charlie Kirk's shooter had writings related to "transgender ideology."

www.mediaite.com

 

[Jade]

Perhaps the govenor is feeling a tad insecure,? (Wouldn't blame if he was, kinda scary to go out and make speechs).

I'm sure he is.

My reply was to question the assertion of LE classifying it as political assassination.

That seemed very unusual to me and I was interested in see if that was actually said by LE. It was not as far as I can find.


all imo

 

[tlcya]

Alleged Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson,22, was a registered voter but not affiliated with any political party in Utah, Reuters reported.

Public records showed he was an 'inactive' voter, meaning he did not cast a vote in the 2024 presidential elections - the first one he would have been old enough to vote in.

However, Robinson's grandmother told Daily Mail the alleged killer grew up in a Republican household.
Robinson does not have a criminal record.
'Killer's' voting habits revealed following Charlie Kirk assassination

I post this snip not to be political in any way but to support the fact that it is important IMO to understand what twisted and radicalized this young man's ideals in such a way as to drive him to violence against another with whom he did not agree. I feel it this conversation is an important one. It isn't enough to say Tyler didn't like Charlie Kirk's viewpoints IMO, we need to understand how one gets from "I don't like his viewpoints" to "I will end his life". JMO