UT - Charlie Kirk Murdered on Utah College Stage *Arrest*

[tlcya]

Yeah, this guy's reaction did seem pretty sketchy if it was exactly as reported. Mystery bearded man in crowd at Charlie Kirk shooting seen cheering and looking back after gunshot

I'm going to guess not involved but a poor excuse for humanity for that spectator. JMO

 

[Wossy]

"Yes, you can get DNA from a fingerprint because fingerprints contain touch DNA from skin cells."

There was a case from 1974 where all they had was a single fingerprint and they solved it off that

 

[GatorFL]

Yes, I think so too. I hope anyone who knows him and recognizes him gives in a tip to the FBI. From the latest articles, it seems he jumped off the roof and ran into the wilderness. That is what I've been wondering, how he seemingly left without witnesses seeing him go! I notice in the photo of him climbing the stairs, that there is a person at the top. Hoping that person remembers him also.

Yes I am surprised they don't have a name and address at this point.

 

[Elley Mae]

The pictures of him are very clear so I expect an arrest soon.

I thought so too, seems they would have gotten a match from sm, drivers license or other ID. Maybe not American.

Jmo

 

[CS2C]

I’m probably totally wrong here, but my first impression was that he looked like a middle aged guy dressing younger.

 

[Parsnip]

I am always terrified by vigilante justice, and I suspect that this case is an example. The moment that one person dehumanizes another, any action can be excused. Honestly, I wish Ayn Rand had taken up gardening rather than writing. Moo.

 

[Arkay]

The picture is clear but something feels odd to me. I can’t put my finger on it.

I’m sure this person will be recognized and I hope and pray they catch this murderer.

As to the bearded guy cheering and looking in the direction of the shot while everyone else is scattering, it seems very suspicious.

May not be a co-conspirator, but why go if you’re not a fan. So maybe he was there to heckle?

But no one should be CHEERING when someone’s neck is ripped apart just feet in front of you.

JMO

 

[BrianJohnson]

My initial thoughts were an overseas hired hitman given one precision shot and calm calculated demeanour and making clean getaway but leaning more towards the Luigi Mangione type, I think there will be an arrest within the next 24-48 hrs

 

[steeltowngirl]

Has it been determined from the photo of the suspect if he was carrying the rifle in a bag? Or on his back?

 

[GatorFL]

Has it been determined from the photo of the suspect if he was carrying the rifle in a bag? Or on his back?

To my untrained eye it does not look like it.

 

[Andreee]

Has it been determined from the photo of the suspect if he was carrying the rifle in a bag? Or on his back?

That is what I was wondering! If this photo is on his way in, he sure seems to have hidden his weapon 'well'.

 

[tlcya]

I am not sure what to think of this newest POI. They've taken at least one and maybe more into custody for questioning but then released. I am curious what makes this one a POI. Heck I am curious what made anyone taken into custody for this crime a POI or suspect.

 

[Cardgame]

To my untrained eye it does not look like it.

If not does that mean his tactical gear and rifle could have been hidden in advance in the building?

 

[MassGuy]

My initial thoughts were an overseas hired hitman given one precision shot and calm calculated demeanour and making clean getaway but leaning more towards the Luigi Mangione type, I think there will be an arrest within the next 24-48 hrs

That's just never happened. I remember people saying the same thing about the murder committed by Luigi Mangione, before he was identified.

This was sloppy as hell.

He was either aiming for his head and shot low, or aiming for his chest and shot high. He left a palm print, shoe prints, and almost certainly his DNA. He dumped the gun like an amateur, leaving behind a goldmine for investigators.

I agree on the timing regarding an arrest, but I'm convinced this is going to be a lone wolf with his own grievance.

 

[Cardgame]

Actually to me it looks like he is wearing a bullet proof vest in that photo.

 

[justtrish]

I am not sure what to think of this newest POI. They've taken at least one and maybe more into custody for questioning but then released. I am curious what makes this one a POI. Heck I am curious what made anyone taken into custody for this crime a POI or suspect.

If this is the only person seen going to the roof of the building, that would be a good clue that he is the shooter. Or if he was seen running from the roof with a gun. I don't think they would show those photos, but they could back track and find the person before going to the roof and show that photo. We know he got the gun from the roof to a wooded area where it was found. We don't know how he got it too the roof or when, but it seems very likely he ran away with the gun after the shooting.

IMO

 

[GatorFL]

If not does that mean his tactical gear and rifle could have been hidden in advance in the building?

Pure speculation on my part but I would not be surprised if the rifle was stashed there. Based on reports, it seemed like he knew where he was going to get to the rooftop.

Everybody scattered after the shots, so he brought it with him and ditched it in the woods where authorities found it.

I'm sure when he's caught all the relevant footage of him going up and down will be available for inspection.

 

[GatorFL]

That's just never happened. I remember people saying the same thing about the murder committed by Luigi Mangione, before he was identified.

This was sloppy as hell.

He was either aiming for his head and shot low, or aiming for his chest and shot high. He left a palm print, shoe prints, and almost certainly his DNA. He dumped the gun like an amateur, leaving behind a goldmine for investigators.

I agree on the timing regarding an arrest, but I'm convinced this is going to be a lone wolf with his own grievance.

I concur.

I can't wait to find out how much range time he had prior to this.

 

[Chimera]

U.S. authorities find rifle, release photos in hunt for killer of Charlie Kirk

U.S. investigators said on Thursday they had found the bolt-action rifle they believed was used to kill the influential conservative activist Charlie Kirk and released images of a person of interest as they searched for the shooter they described as college age.

www.reuters.com

FBI releases images of person of interest, announces $100K reward amid manhunt for Charlie Kirk's killer

The FBI said it is working alongside state and local law enforcement to "fully investigate and seek justice in the fatal shooting” of Charlie Kirk.

abcnews.go.com

The rifle is an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel, multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel, the sources said.
Rbm.
Hmmm... I missed that part.
So, maybe a dna profile can be gleaned from the towel ?

I'm also curious about how the shooter was able to get off the roof (Doubt he jumped from the third floor so did he climb down that roof ?) while carrying the rifle.
It's not a small weapon !
Imo.

 

[BrianJohnson]

That's just never happened. I remember people saying the same thing about the murder committed by Luigi Mangione, before he was identified.

This was sloppy as hell.

He was either aiming for his head and shot low, or aiming for his chest and shot high. He left a palm print, shoe prints, and almost certainly his DNA. He dumped the gun like an amateur, leaving behind a goldmine for investigators.

I agree on the timing regarding an arrest, but I'm convinced this is going to be a lone wolf with his own grievance.

My initial thought was whoever it was was aiming for his throat to make a point about silencing him but definitely it was not the work of a pro, a pro leaves behind no traces or clues and certainly doesn’t discard their weapon like that and leave their face on CCTV