UT - Charlie Kirk Murdered on Utah College Stage *Arrest*

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  • #101
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Reuters has released a drone view of the reported location where the shooter fired from at Utah Valley University, killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The rooftop area has a view of the section on campus where Kirk had been sitting while speaking at an event.

A picture of the reported location from where Charlie Kirk was fatally shot during an event at Utah Valley University.

A picture of the reported location from where Charlie Kirk was fatally shot during an event at Utah Valley University. Photograph: Cheney Orr/Reuters

I don't know anything about guns - what is the skill level required for this shot?
 
  • #102
I missed the news about a palm print and shoe prints. I'd like to read more about that. Could you please share the link? TIA


Officials analyse palm and forearm prints in Kirk investigation - a recap​


Police officers, wearing camouflage guests, crouch next to a police vehicle. A sign reads Utah Valley University behind them
IMAGE SOURCE, REUTERS


As the FBI releases images of a "person of interest" in the killing of Charlie Kirk, let's bring you some of the details authorities shared in an news conference earlier today.

Officials said they were “confident in our abilities" to track the shooter and they had "good video footage" of the suspect.

As well as locating a high-powered rifle, officials said they had also found a "footwear impression, a palm print and forearm imprints" which are being analysed. They also said they had tracked the shooter's movements directly before and after the shooting.

Earlier, investigators said they were "working through some technologies and some ways to identify this individual" and, if they are unsuccessful, they will then share images publicly with the media to help identify them.

The officials said they had already visited the neighbourhoods where the shooter is believed to have fled through, contacting witnesses and people with doorbell cameras.

 
  • #103
Bbm.
Good point. ^^^

That clip from the video footage is grainy, but someone must have a good idea about who that is.
Maybe if they showed the video with him moving up the stairs it could help jog someone's memory ?
Sometimes people walk on a level surface or up/down stairs with a certain gait.
Imo.
I agree that a video clip would be helpful. For instance, it appears to me that the person does not move fluidly, but instead has a spastic quality to his movement. But I cannot tell if that is simply because his fists are gripped closed and elbows are pulled in and that could be because he is trying to avoid touching anything and leaving a print.
 
  • #104

Investigators have name of person of interest​

Federal law enforcement believes it has identified the name of a person of interest, according to two U.S. officials and a law enforcement source. So far, however, no arrest warrant has been issued.

Well why not? Isn’t that strange? This case gets stranger by the minute. What am I missing?
 
  • #105
I bet they have him in custody but are waiting to release information until they're positive it's the right person.
I don't think so as per the latest update (12 mins ago):

As you may remember, officials had postponed a news conference this afternoon, citing “rapid developments” in the case. Though it’s not clear what those developments are, the Department of Public Safety (DPS) did just release an update saying there is still no suspect in custody.

“Law Enforcement Personnel continue the search for any and all potential suspects related to this incident. Multiple leads are currently being investigated,” the update said.

 
  • #106
From the screenshots, I'm not even confident that it's a male. They seem to have very delicate, feminine features and build.
Disagree. Clearly a man IMO.
 
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I bet they have him in custody but are waiting to release information until they're positive it's the right person.
Yeah, I never considered that, but you could be right.
Maybe that's why they're saying it's just a person of interest at this time.
Don't want another Richard Jewell travesty.

This case is huge and LE don't want a disaster, any more than what's already happened.

Imo.
 
  • #109

Footage shows moment shooter fled across the roof​

BBC Visual Journalism Team

While a manhunt is still ongoing to find the killer of Charlie Kirk, investigators have shared some details about the suspect.

In a news conference earlier today, officials said the suspect "appears to be of college age" who arrived on campus at 11:52 local time yesterday.

After the shooting, he is believed to have jumped off the roof of a building on campus, fleeing "into a neighbourhood," officials said.

Video footage taken from inside a building behind the gazebo that Kirk was in appears to show someone running across the roof of the Losee Center building, right after the shooting.

We have analysed that footage below.


Three photos show view from an office window out across a large crowd to flat-topped buildings in the background. Each photo highlights a figure on the rooftop with a white circle. The figure’s position moves slightly to the left across the rooftop each time.


 
  • #110
I agree that a video clip would be helpful. For instance, it appears to me that the person does not move fluidly, but instead has a spastic quality to his movement. But I cannot tell if that is simply because his fists are gripped closed and elbows are pulled in and that could be because he is trying to avoid touching anything and leaving a print.
But remember, he would have needed great finesse in the actual shooting, so spastic movement otherwise is not likely.
 
  • #111
From the screenshots, I'm not even confident that it's a male. They seem to have very delicate, feminine features and build.
IMO this should help narrow down the male suspect.
 
  • #112
I agree that a video clip would be helpful. For instance, it appears to me that the person does not move fluidly, but instead has a spastic quality to his movement. But I cannot tell if that is simply because his fists are gripped closed and elbows are pulled in and that could be because he is trying to avoid touching anything and leaving a print.
Diddian,
I'm combining your last 3 excellent posts.
I agree with you;
LE has obscured an area on the rightside of POI's face (maybe a piercing?), and areas on each of his hands (maybe tattoos, a specific watch or apparel item?)

You are very observant. I didn't see those spots until there was an enlarged pic on my screen.

Awesome that you noticed it!
 
  • #113
Well why not? Isn’t that strange? This case gets stranger by the minute. What am I missing?
Let's not leap to conspiracy theories. Hanlon's Razor applies. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." It could also be that a warrant hasn't been publicly issued so as to prevent alerting the suspect that LEO are incoming.
 
  • #114
Honestly he just looked wasted to me. It's very possible he had no clue what had happened.
This. The people in the middle of the crowd didn't see the zoomed-in gruesome moment of impact that we all saw. People heard a gunshot and then chaos ensued. After Trump was shot, spectators began standing back up and cheering "USA!" as secret service took him away. It looks like this guy was (foolishly) trying to start a similar moment.
 
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Anybody else notice distinguishing features?

If he isn't identified and caught in the next 12 hours, I sure hope LE releases a moving image of his "walk". That should go an even longer way to helping someone recognizing him.

Furthermore: What is going on with his mouth? An overbite ? I'll let others describe what they see..........

Moo/pure speculation.
He looks in his 30s to me. And maybe of Hispanic ethnicity. It could also be Native American or Middle Eastern. There’s something about his features, particularly his nose, that makes him appear not entirely White/Caucasian. MOO JMO
 
  • #116
Hard to tell by the photos but my initial impression was that he was older than college age. Not old but older than 25 Thoughts?
My first reaction is that he's older than traditional college age, too.
 
  • #117
32 min ago

Law enforcement arrests person unrelated to Kirk shooting at crime scene​

BY AUDREY MCAVOY

The Utah Department of Public Safety says the man ignored crime scene tape, entered the secured area and began taking photos of the scene and officers. He fled when agents ordered him to stop and attempted to identify him but other officers apprehended him.

He’s been booked into the county jail for felony obstruction and trespassing.

 
  • #118
Whoever is responsible isn’t very smart, chose a state that still carries the death penalty when Charlie was starting a states wide tour, not a planner
They chose a state where you can carry on campus
 
  • #119
Well why not? Isn’t that strange? This case gets stranger by the minute. What am I missing?
Probably treading cautiously since they've already detained two other "persons of interest" in the past 24 hours who then had to be released.
 
  • #120
Its possible IMO the person in the suspect photo is wearing a full silicone mask

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