UT - Kylen Schulte, 24, & Crystal Beck, 38, newlywed couple found dead, Grand County, 18 Aug 2021

[cocomod]

I didn't get to see all of it, but it seems like they had a decent amount of evidence. Its a shame the bullets, etc. were tossed and the car wasn't processed.

This may have been answered here, so excuse me if it has, but how does LE know that AP was the creepy person who stalked the women at their camp ground spot? The women had told others about the creepy camper guy, but didn't identify him as AP. However, it seems like the women knew AP. He had worked at the same fast food place, right? If he was the creepy camper guy, the women would have recognized him, right?

ETA: I'm now reading the comment above about wearing masks at work as a factor in Crystal not recognizing AP from work. Ok. I'm still not sure, though. The rest of the evidence is stronger, somewhat convincing. I realize that's the best they had to work with. He was staying under the radar and they wouldn't have known he had committed suicide.

LE figured out it was him from video surveillance of the area. They also have the story about him scavenging from other people's coolers. Then, he was invited to eat with them to try to make friends with him, he overstayed his welcome, and then was angry when he was asked to leave. The pics in the news conference show his car and show him at the camp site between the tent and his car.

Also, she didn't work the same shift with him at McDonalds. She didn't interact with him much at all, but did on the one occasion when she went in on a day off to make sandwiches. He was rude to her because she wasn't in uniform and he didn't know she was an employee. Then, when he was told she was an employee, but wasn't making sandwiches for customers, he was angry. He was very volatile and dangerous from everything they found on his phone during the investigation. Not to mention telling his SO that he killed 2 women in Utah and had details that LE hadn't released. I am very satisfied that he was the one.

 

[WingsOverTX]

I didn't get to see all of it, but it seems like they had a decent amount of evidence. Its a shame the bullets, etc. were tossed and the car wasn't processed.

This may have been answered here, so excuse me if it has, but how does LE know that AP was the creepy person who stalked the women at their camp ground spot? The women had told others about the creepy camper guy, but didn't identify him as AP. However, it seems like the women knew AP. He had worked at the same fast food place, right? If he was the creepy camper guy, the women would have recognized him, right?

ETA: I'm now reading the comment above about wearing masks at work as a factor in Crystal not recognizing AP from work. Ok. I'm still not sure, though. The rest of the evidence is stronger, somewhat convincing. I realize that's the best they had to work with. He was staying under the radar and they wouldn't have known he had committed suicide.

Reasonable doubt from what I am reading in the "evidence" posts above.

It appears KS's father found whatever LE provided him to be convincing. Perhaps he will elaborate on that at some point.

AP does appear unhinged but I'm still not seeing a why these two women at that time & place.

Could the SO be impeached?

Are they considering it solved & closing the case? I will check MSM.

JMO

 

[WingsOverTX]

Reasonable doubt from what I am reading in the "evidence" posts above.

It appears KS's father found whatever LE provided him to be convincing. Perhaps he will elaborate on that at some point.

AP does appear unhinged but I'm still not seeing a why these two women at that time & place.

Could the SO be impeached?

Are they considering it solved & closing the case? I will check MSM.

JMO

CASE CLOSED

Authorities close case on murders of Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner

In a press release, the sheriff's office said the presentation would end with the closure of the murder investigation into the deaths of Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner.

kslnewsradio.com

INTERESTING:
Rigby said that if Pinkusiewicz was still alive, police would have enough to warrant an arrest. Because of his death, the case is now closed. But, Rigby said, if any other information comes to light it could be revisited.

 

[cocomod]

Reasonable doubt from what I am reading in the "evidence" posts above.

It appears KS's father found whatever LE provided him to be convincing. Perhaps he will elaborate on that at some point.

AP does appear unhinged but I'm still not seeing a why these two women at that time & place.

Could the SO be impeached?

Are they considering it solved & closing the case? I will check MSM.

JMO

Yes, they consider the case closed according to the news conference they just gave. The SO was cleared because he was NOT in Utah at the time of the murders. He was unhinged not just about these two women, but life in general. He told his SO he killed them because Crystal was "bossy"

 

[Betty P]

LE figured out it was him from video surveillance of the area. They also have the story about him scavenging from other people's coolers. Then, he was invited to eat with them to try to make friends with him, he overstayed his welcome, and then was angry when he was asked to leave. The pics in the news conference show his car and show him at the camp site between the tent and his car.

Agree. I saw the video stills of the car alongside photos of his. Also the photo people took of him when he was hanging around their camp site. Good thing they did that. Also key that he knew he had shot the women when they were still inside their tent.

Overall it seems a solid case against him.

 

[WingsOverTX]

CASE CLOSED

Authorities close case on murders of Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner

In a press release, the sheriff's office said the presentation would end with the closure of the murder investigation into the deaths of Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner.

kslnewsradio.com

INTERESTING:
Rigby said that if Pinkusiewicz was still alive, police would have enough to warrant an arrest. Because of his death, the case is now closed. But, Rigby said, if any other information comes to light it could be revisited.

Replying to my own post again.

How can other information come to light if LE has stopped investigating & closed the case?

I'm pretty convinced AP did it but not 100%. If it's enough to give the families of the victims peace then it's enough for me.
MOO

 

[iamnotagolem]

So was AP from Waterloo? I’d like to see a timeline of where he’s lived his entire adult life. When Crystal & Kylen were murdered there was discussion about possibly a serial killer linking Evansdale, Delphi & Moab since they were all 4.5 years apart. Obviously it seems there is a suspect in Delphi, but I was shocked to see Waterloo IA as where he ended up.

 

[WingsOverTX]

So was AP from Waterloo? I’d like to see a timeline of where he’s lived his entire adult life. When Crystal & Kylen were murdered there was discussion about possibly a serial killer linking Evansdale, Delphi & Moab since they were all 4.5 years apart. Obviously it seems there is a suspect in Delphi, but I was shocked to see Waterloo IA as where he ended up.

Right? There could be other victims.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Right? There could be other victims.

Although I think his suicide so soon after and confessing to his SO makes me think if he had other victims he’d have talked.

 

[Springrain]

Thanks @cocomod for posting these screenshots. At this point, I was doubtful before, but now I feel pretty confident that AP did it. JMO.

 

[Missing Susan]

They were killed in their tent but in broad daylight?

 

[Yemelyan]

They were killed in their tent but in broad daylight?

Apparently so....

On August 14, Rigby said, the couple was shot at 11:48 a.m. Investigators showed surveillance video in which those shots were heard. About an hour later, surveillance video captured Pinkusiewicz’s Toyota Yaris driving down the mountain.

From this article: New details released as Grand County double murder investigation concludes

Edit to say - it's chilling to think what he was doing for that hour before he drove away. One would think he would leave the site of the shooting immediately or at least as soon as packing up his stuff but I guess that was not so.

 

[blackbeary]

Did Pink kill himself at Waterloo?

 

[tarabull]

Grand County closes case of two women killed while camping near Moab

The investigation into the killing of two Utah women, 38-year-old Crystal Turner and 24-year-old Kylen Schulte in the Moab area, will be closed.

ksltv.com

Man suspected of killing Moab couple exhibited signs of anger, racism, paranoia, police say

A man suspected of killing two women in the La Sal Mountains in 2021 had shown problems with anger management and had extreme racist views, police announced Thursday.

www.ksl.com

 

[tarabull]

Did Pink kill himself at Waterloo?

Moab authorities close Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner case, citing evidence against dead murder suspect

Grand County Sheriff’s Office investigators said Thursday that if the suspect was alive, they would have enough evidence to convict him in the August 2021 killings of newlywed couple Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner in Moab.

www.sltrib.com

Snipped ...

...Pinkusiewicz died by suicide in an Iowa motel on Sept. 24, 2021, and investigators did not learn he was dead until late March 2022, officials said.

 

[Howl]

I'm still a bit confused about the murder weapon. The Salt Lake City Tribune article states: "Authorities said key evidence that pointed to Pinkusiewicz included footage of a Toyota Yaris leaving the couple’s campsite hours after the killings, as well as the specialized red-tipped ammo and Glock handgun used in the crime..."

Was the Glock recovered at the scene or were the police able to tell a Glock was the murder weapon based on the type of bullets recovered at the campsite?

 

[Yemelyan]

I'm still a bit confused about the murder weapon. The Salt Lake City Tribune article states: "Authorities said key evidence that pointed to Pinkusiewicz included footage of a Toyota Yaris leaving the couple’s campsite hours after the killings, as well as the specialized red-tipped ammo and Glock handgun used in the crime..."

Was the Glock recovered at the scene or were the police able to tell a Glock was the murder weapon based on the type of bullets recovered at the campsite?

I watched parts of the presentation from the authorities laying out their evidence. It's my understanding from what they presented that they had the bullets, which were kind of an unusual type and they actually showed photos of the bullets that were recovered. From this, they were pretty sure of the kind of gun. Their experts had predicted it would be a 19/17 Glock 9mm. Then they discovered a bill of sale from a gun dealer that showed AP had purchased this exact type of gun AND ammunition consistent with what was found, back in 2019 I believe.

They said he ultimately killed himself with a different kind of gun.

 

[iamnotagolem]

So he killed Kylen & Crystal August 14, 2021. He committed suicide September 24, 2021. When did investigators begin looking for him? I'm a bit confused with him as the prime suspect (presumably) why did it take months before they discovered he was dead? When did they travel to Waterloo and question the SO? He wasn't informed of AP's death until investigators questioned him "this year" according to the article.

I'm also shocked at "No DNA evidence links Pinkusiewicz to the crime scene, Rigby said — most likely because it rained at the campsite for about two days before the bodies were found, and because much of Pinkusiewicz’s personal belongings were not kept after his death." I guess that explains why so many murders go unsolved, I don't know why I thought it would be harder to destroy evidence linking you to a crime.

From the article linked & quoted above:
...Pinkusiewicz died by suicide in an Iowa motel on Sept. 24, 2021, and investigators did not learn he was dead until late March 2022, officials said.

Moab authorities close Kylen Schulte, Crystal Turner case, citing evidence against dead murder suspect

Grand County Sheriff’s Office investigators said Thursday that if the suspect was alive, they would have enough evidence to convict him in the August 2021 killings of newlywed couple Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner in Moab.

www.sltrib.com

 

[cocomod]

His SO said he “threw the gun”, but they were unclear where. So, the gun was not recovered. However, the bill of sale was for a gun that investigators believe was the type of gun used.

He was living a transient life style, so even if LE was looking for him, he was difficult to find. I am surprised they didn’t catch his death more quickly since he wasn’t living under an assumed identity in Moab.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Thanks @cocomod for posting these screenshots. At this point, I was doubtful before, but now I feel pretty confident that AP did it. JMO.

Yes, I agree. There were a lot of missing pieces to the puzzle but enough to convince me AP was indeed the guy. It's a lot more compelling than anything Dog has said so far. Unlike Dog, the GCSO isn't trying to market their work to the public as entertainment.