GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #1

[Zuri]

Hopefully, during the 10 minute recess, the Prosecutor can have a word with her. Personally, I don't think her diagnosis is relevant at all and none of anyone's business. The jury may not understand the complexity of the diagnosis and totally discount the substance of her testimony. Labeling/disclosing someone as BiPolar in a trial where they are not the defendant is not pertinent, unless a mental health professional is there to explain it. The inference would be that she is not to be believed as she is "mentally ill". Unfair and prejudicial. JMO

 

[GaveltoGavel]

So thankful for WAT. HLN is still on the Ada hearing from this am.

 

[gngr~snap]

Wait is this a hearing?
HLN is still on Alexis and said jury not present.
Talking about Nancy Grace now.

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[Bravo]

Let's see what cross brings.

I hope they treat her respectfully and don't try to break her down. The Jurors wont like it IMO. I don't want to see her go thru that.

 

[aa9511]

I don't know how anyone could judge that.

She is destroyed. It is obvious being in that room with her father is overwhelming and she is being forced to relive her mother's death knowing her father was responsible at least in her mind.

She is holding her mothers clothes that were cut off her..

Anyone who could be completely normal through that would need more help than someone who could not. She is distraught. Just like Travis's sisters were through the trial, Just like other victims relatives are in a trial.

I don't think it's a matter of being distraught or that she obviously emotional having to re-live it. I have a real worry that the jury will think she hates her Dad so much that it's clouding her judgement of what really happened that day. Because, of course she is gonna hate her dad, in her mind he DID kill her. But in the jury's mind, they don't know yet. So that might cause a problem, IMO.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Hopefully, during the 10 minute recess, the Prosecutor can have a word with her. Personally, I don't think her diagnosis is relevant at all and none of anyone's business. The jury may not understand the complexity of the diagnosis and totally discount the substance of her testimony. Labeling/disclosing someone as BiPolar in a trial where they are not the defendant is not pertinent, unless a mental health professional is there to explain it. The inference would be that she is not to be believed as she is "mentally ill". Unfair and prejudicial. JMO

I completely agree.

 

[otto]

Hey Otto! Good to see you here!

Looking forward to your insights with this case!

 

[Bravo]

Wait is this a hearing?
HLN is still on Alexis and said jury not present.
Talking about Nancy Grace now.

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Yes hearing was this a.m. that's what you are seeing. Live is Trial.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I don't think it's a matter of being distraught or that she obviously emotional having to re-live it. I have a real worry that the jury will think she hates her Dad so much that it's clouding her judgement of what really happened that day. Because, of course she is gonna hate her dad, in her mind he DID kill her. But in the jury's mind, they don't know yet. So that might cause a problem, IMO.

I don't think that matters. They know she is testifying for the prosecution. That she hates her father for all He has done is really quite normal.

There is nothing to cloud judgment here. This man killed his wife, made a huge show for everyone, With all the testimony of the first responders it is obvious he was staging things..

I don't think anyone likes him. That someone would hate him for killing his mother, bringing in his mistress, trying to send the kids away...
I think is normal.

 

[Lucylu7]

I don't know how anyone could judge that.

She is destroyed. It is obvious being in that room with her father is overwhelming and she is being forced to relive her mother's death knowing her father was responsible at least in her mind.

She is holding her mothers clothes that were cut off her..

Anyone who could be completely normal through that would need more help than someone who could not. She is distraught. Just like Travis's sisters were through the trial, Just like other victims relatives are in a trial.

Thank You!

 

[gngr~snap]

Yes hearing was this a.m. that's what you are seeing. Live is Trial.

OK thank you!
It's confusing!

So when Rachel is called the jury is "in "?
Then Alexis will be re-called?
sorry...Not trying to derail the thread.

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[Chelly]

I hope they treat her respectfully and don't try to break her down. The Jurors wont like it IMO. I don't want to see her go thru that.

One never knows how the jurors will interpret a witness' behavior. With all witnesses, jurors must decide: 1) Is this witness credible? 2) Does this witness have a agenda?

 

[Ina Cognito]

Hmm I saw someone ask somewhere else "Who turned the water off to the bathtub?" That is a very, very good question. If Michele was supposedly preparing a bath and fell in, why was the water not running when Ada and MM first found her, it's not mentioned at all... ??

 

[Bravo]

OK thank you!
It's confusing!

So when Rachel is called the jury is "in "?
Then Alexis will be are-called?
sorry...Not trying to derail the thread.

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Correct.

 

[Ina Cognito]

Hmm I saw someone ask somewhere else "Who turned the water off to the bathtub?" That is a very, very good question. If Michele was supposedly preparing a bath and fell in, why was the water not running when Ada and MM first found her, it's not mentioned at all... ??

And to expound on my own post if Michele indeed was running her own bath why was the tub not overflowing when MM arrived home? Why is the tub half way full and the faucet turned off?? Hmm

 

[Bravo]

We are back. Hang in there Rachel lease:

 

[gngr~snap]

And to expound on my own post if Michele indeed was running her own bath why was the tub not overflowing when MM arrived home? Why is the tub half way full and the faucet turned off?? Hmm

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[ScarlettScarpetta]

Awesome.. He is carrying sheet rock but can not lift his wife out of a tub...

Prosecution 15-love.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Rachel has good reason to hate this man. Father or not.

 

[Lucylu7]

My father is gone now,but he and I were exceptionally close growing up,he died when I was 19,he was 46.I can only imagine how it would feel to know that he killed my mother,the betrayal would just be life changing.I can only feel sympathy for this witness.