GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #2

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  • #181
Layman's explination:

Tylenol (acetominophen) Tells your brain it doesn't hurt
Percocet (Oxycodone) Actually affects pain centers and relieves the perception of pain at site of pain.

Lortab (Hydrocodone) same as above however, less effect and not as physically addictive.

That's my understanding....that is all
 
  • #182
ambien is bliss :lol:
 
  • #183
Promethazine is Phenergan.
 
  • #184
One thing the "doctor" seemed to forget.......why would Michele take an Ambien during the day when it is to be used before bed at night?

The "doctor" being Martin.
 
  • #185
LMAO I'm glad he mentioned Phenegran (sp?) being prescribed for Allergies. I recognized the name as a drug my Allergist had me take many years ago. What I do remember was I stopped taking it. It dried up every orifice. And I mean every orifice :scared: It was a horrid feeling.
 
  • #186
Umm I need to call this guy. If I take an Ambian I get a little bit cloudy for half an hour and then it goes away. I must have a special brain :) lol
 
  • #187
Smh, this is way too technical. I'll bet the defense is loving it.
 
  • #188
Umm I need to call this guy. If I take an Ambian I get a little bit cloudy for half an hour and then it goes away. I must have a special brain :) lol

That's ok, when I take percocet it makes me productive. I want to clean, etc.

I have had only 2-3 patients that it affects that way.
 
  • #189
So far all of the drugs that was in Michele's system would make her sleepy and with that much sleep inducing meds she would be out of it, IMO.

If I understand correctly, it was physician Martin MacNeill's request(s) for these various drugs that allowed them to be prescribed for Michelle. If not for his requests, they would not be routinely prescribed.

While the testimony today indicates that each has a minor degree of difference (anti-nausea, anti-histimine, different receptors, etc), they all have the common denominator of having a depressive, narcotic effect on the central nervous system.

If Michelle had presented w/ a huge amount of oxycodon, the death would have been deemed highly suspicious. A cocktail of drugs which all have the same effect could be more easily explained -- even tho the effect is identical.
 
  • #190
Umm I need to call this guy. If I take an Ambian I get a little bit cloudy for half an hour and then it goes away. I must have a special brain :) lol

You are not alone. Lunesta works slightly better. Don't be surprised if you take either one, to be raiding your fridge, and not remember doing it. :)
 
  • #191
That's ok, when I take percocet it makes me productive. I want to clean, etc.

I have had only 2-3 patients that it affects that way.

:seeya: 4
 
  • #192
That's ok, when I take percocet it makes me productive. I want to clean, etc.

I have had only 2-3 patients that it affects that way.

Oxycodone does the same thing to me

ETA: I meant Hydrocodone (Lortab)
 
  • #193
You are not alone. Lunesta works slightly better. Don't be surprised if you take either one, to be raiding your fridge, and not remember doing it. :)

Ohhh Lunesta put me in crisis center for 24 hours! lol And yep, sleep eating lol Hubby woke up covered in chocolate cake :floorlaugh:
 
  • #194
Are they just covering the medication she had in her system?

:floorlaugh: lost much? Me too! I just came back what is up with the talk about the pinkie finger up in the air and talking about subsets? Subsets of what? Where's that drool cloth...
 
  • #195
Dude, what was the potassium level??
 
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  • #197
How many days after her surgery did she die?
 
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You are not alone. Lunesta works slightly better. Don't be surprised if you take either one, to be raiding your fridge, and not remember doing it. :)

That's frightening. I always fall in the small percentile to have an adverse effect to meds. Thankfully I take nothing. Drugs terrify me. From having bizarre adverse reactions to anaphylactic I stay away as much as I can.
 
  • #200
naive.. naivete

taint.. tainted

:lol:
 
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