GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #2

[CarolinaMoon]

In spite of this voir dire and the maze of testimony, the jury will focus on the fact that she took Ambien in the morning and a lot of other drugs. She was down to two Percocet a day!

I'm looking forward to Alexis getting up and testifying from memory what she gave her mother and the fact that MM virtually od'd her the previous night.

Another biggie for the jury: consciousness of guilt... throwing the pills away, trying to get rid of wet and bloody clothing and stuff, DISAPPEARING records of Alexis. Thanks to Rachel, they were saved, even if they were washed. There's a lot more evidence of consciousness of guilt... would make a large list.

 

[Bravo]

I would imagine The testimony of this wonderful toxicologist must be difficult for the lay person to understand. I understand most of it as it is part of my vernacular. Do you all think the jury is getting all of this?

I hope so. Based on their questions I think they are a bright bunch. IMO

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
Time for more action in the #MartinMacNeill trial. Gypsy should be up after lunch recess. http://wildabouttrial.com/martin-macneill-live-stream.html …

 

[zoey]

I think I could count on one hand how many times the Prosecution has objected. I hope Gypsy is up later today.

HLN is saying she will--and they will be there. Uggggggg:facepalm:

 

[Bravo]

Cool Za, the side effects of these meds are very important to this case as experienced by real world posters. :loveyou:

I concur and support your argument :loveyou: Sowwy mods I couldn't resist. I'll behave now.

 

[Chelly]

EXCELLENT, Judge. OVERRULED!.

 

[Zuri]

Is this judge allowed to ask such leading questions of the attorneys? I feel like he is spoon feeding them, primarily the defense. Anybody else?

 

[Bravo]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
Time for more action in the #MartinMacNeill trial. Gypsy should be up after lunch recess. http://wildabouttrial.com/martin-macneill-live-stream.html …

Friggin "A". Finally. Wonder if Marty will be angry or look at her wistfully as he has a little trip down memory lane in his head.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Didn't the ER doc say he took blood for the coroner?

I think you're right.

 

[zoey]

EXCELLENT, Judge. OVERRULED!.

What was overruled? Remember I'm following this vicariously thru you all
oh TIA:scared::blushing:

 

[Bravo]

Is this judge allowed to ask such leading questions of the attorneys? I feel like he is spoon feeding them, primarily the defense. Anybody else?

Well Baez was "versed" during Trial by the Judge

 

[scorekeeper]

is the jury still in the courtroom?

 

[minor4th]

Yeah, so here's the takeaway from this witness' testimony, and I hope this jury gets it:

1. Michele had all of the drugs in her system, from a blood sample drawn 24 hours after her death

2. The combination of drugs would cause an additive sedative effect.

3. The ambien alone would be enough to put her to sleep, the other medications would enhance that effect.

4. Even if the drug cocktail wouldnt render her completely unconscious, she would at the very least be impaired and sedated

5. He can't accurately determine or analyze the amounts of the drugs in her blood because it was drawn 24 hours after her death.

 

[popsicle]

Found this interesting.

Older children are also less vulnerable to suggestion. Suggestibility to false
memories is greatest around the age of 6. Rejection of false memories improves after that.

What Parents and Professionals Need to Know about Children’s Testimony

http://www.human.cornell.edu/hd/outreach-extension/upload/brainerd-reyna-child-witness.pdf

 

[Italy]

I hope so. Based on their questions I think they are a bright bunch. IMO

I think the testimony is compelling & with concentrated attention a layman (which includes the jurors) could learn a great deal about the presence of 4 prescribed (highly controlled) drugs in Michele's postmortem body. There is dispute over the dispersion and measurement after death, but clearly there was a concentration of several drugs which all carry a depressive effect on central nervous system.

HOWEVER, after the Casey Anthony verdict, I will never completely trust a jury to listen attentively, accurately assess the information and reach a reasonable conclusion based on evidence presented.

 

[renatae]

Did Rachel have her own medical insurance or was she somehow covered under Martin's? If she was covered under Martin's then he would have access to her medical files and since it has been made clear that he cares more about saving his own rear end instead of the well being of his children, then I could see him giving that information to his defense team to use against Rachel.

MOO

That really should not be the case. (That if he carried the insurance, he had access to her files.) I am guardian of my adult son and even with papers, I've had a hard time getting records for transfer.

That being said, in practice, I've found HIPAA to cause more inconvenience to me personally, (red tape) yet people whom one would assume would be prevented from getting others' records under it seem to have no trouble. MOO.

 

[Chelly]

Hope this witness isn't on stand all day. Long direct. Probably long cross. Then re-direct. GROAN.... I like and comprehend this toxoligists testimony but would prefer a condensation.....

 

[ziggy]

The drugs are so important. I think a layperson can understand half-life if they've ever been on medication. And nobody takes Ambien in the morning, as has been said.

I used to manage a plastic surgery office in Tennessee. We had a surgery suite in our office. I can say with certainty that none of our facelift patients were on that much post op medication.

 

[popsicle]

is the jury still in the courtroom?

Yes. They just dropped what he was testifying to and picked up on what the def was voir dioring on.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Im glad they are going through the toxicology slowly and clearly. The whole basis for the case is that he over medicated her. So it is really vital that the jury get this part completely.