VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

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  • #1,181
OK, I am confused too

As per Findamy...

March 24, 1998 - Amy disappeared from Rhapsody of the Seas

August, 1998 - Amy was seen at Porto Marie, Curacao

January, 1999 - Amy was seen in an Otrobanda Hotel, Curacao

April 18, 2003 - Amy was seen in San Francisco, California

2004 - 2005 - Amy's photograph appeared on a Venezuelan escort website

March 1, 2005 - Amy was seen in Bridgetown, Barbados

November, 2005 - Amy was seen in a Salinja club, Curacao


Added

December, 2002 - Amy's photograph appeared on the AAV website.
 
  • #1,182
This is what Findamy said about the cab


The story has never been verified and it is not believed to be accurate. The man claimed that he saw someone in cowboy boots dragging Amy through the terminal in San Juan, and pushing her into a cab. Once again, this witness failed to notice that Amy didn't have shoes when she disappeared.


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This is what Findamy said about the cab


The story has never been verified and it is not believed to be accurate. The man claimed that he saw someone in cowboy boots dragging Amy through the terminal in San Juan, and pushing her into a cab. Once again, this witness failed to notice that Amy didn't have shoes when she disappeared.


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This statement has always bothered me. I don't get why the shoes are an issue. It seems like putting shoes on someone would be fairly simple if you didn't want their lack of shoes to draw attention. I've also seen it stated that Amy left with only her cigarettes and was barefoot but how does anyone know this? Her parents said that she brought at least 10 pairs of shoes and they weren't sure if any were missing. What am I not getting about the shoes? Thanks for re-posting this, by the way. Saves me from having to go find it :D
 
  • #1,185
According to the lawsuit, and the information from the article, I guess so.
The thing is, Amy was discovered missing right before docking in Curacao. The kidnappers knew the family would be looking for her, so they had to have a very secret place to put her. Could this be why the ship wasn't searched completely as the crew ship staff claimed it was?

I guess it could make sense that they wouldn't have taken her off the ship in Curacao, as everyone would have been watching for Amy there. So, they waited? And just had to keep her out of sight, and keep the ship from being thoroughly searched. All this really blows my mind, that all the time she could have been right there on the ship. :shakehead: But the Bradley's left the ship to search in Curacao, did someone on the ship encourage them to stay in Curacao and search, did they want them off the ship ? I dont' remember, darn it. S&BBM

Sounds to me like they were encouraged to leave the ship:

Taken from:
Part II Amy Interrupted

Then the captain presented them with an option. If Amy wasn't on the ship, she was probably on shore in Curacao or in the water. If they stayed on the ship, they might lose a chance to search the island. Iva asked the captain if he was absolutely sure, if he thought beyond a shadow of a doubt that Amy was not on his ship. She says the captain said he was certain she wasn't aboard and that the best thing to do would be to leave the ship.

http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/part-ii/Content?oid=1390780
 
  • #1,186
IMO one of the places onboard ship that she could have been hidden and not found by those searching would have been the engine room area, also the noise down there would have driven out any shouts for help...
 
  • #1,187
Searching for quote where waiter mentioned it to A's parents (if anyone else finds it please post!) in meantime here is his fb page (with tansmanian d.) posted by FA #995
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4936&page=40

Creepy indeed. What's even creepier is it shows how many friend requests he has. How would someone who does not own the FB page see that? I have a FB page but only see my own friend requests. I don't see my friends, friend requests, KWIM? :waitasec:

hmmmm
 
  • #1,188
Four days later??
OMG, I hope that is not the case

Looks like it was at least three days, maybe four days later. Amy disappeared on the 24th, the FBI searched with dogs on the on either the 27th or 28th from what I can deduct. (going through the whole article and sequence of events).

Part III*
Amy Interrupted

http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/part-iii/Content?oid=1383740

The cruise ship officers agreed to let two FBI agents, casually dressed in jeans and golf shirts, onboard to investigate. The agents first interviewed each of the Bradleys separately and asked what happened. (The Bradleys were all also polygraphed by the FBI upon returning home and were quickly eliminated as suspects, their lawyer says.)

More than 24 hours later, Royal Caribbean employees began distributing Amy's photo, while still allowing passengers on and off the boat. The Bradleys asked that guards be posted on the pool deck to look for her but they allege it wasn't done. (Without getting into specifics, Royal Caribbean says they acted "appropriately." They also say they conducted another search with dogs a day later, a fact the Bradleys dispute, saying it was the FBI who brought in dogs. Either way, it also came up blank.)

Feeling helpless, the Bradleys exited the ship again Friday, March 27, in St. Thomas while the FBI investigated. McCord, the Illinois Mutual CEO, chartered a private Lear jet for the family to fly from St. Thomas back to Richmond. They left on March 28, the same day that Rhapsody of the Seas returned to the docks at San Juan, and the same day, unbeknownst to the Bradleys, that the witness claimed to see Amy there. It had been four days since her father saw her sitting in the lounge chair on the cabin balcony.

If they searched at San Juan, Amy for sure would have been already off the ship. Wonder if they had searched with the dogs sooner, if they might have found her?
 
  • #1,189
OK, I am confused too

As per Findamy...

March 24, 1998 - Amy disappeared from Rhapsody of the Seas

August, 1998 - Amy was seen at Porto Marie, Curacao

January, 1999 - Amy was seen in an Otrobanda Hotel, Curacao

April 18, 2003 - Amy was seen in San Francisco, California

2004 - 2005 - Amy's photograph appeared on a Venezuelan escort website

March 1, 2005 - Amy was seen in Bridgetown, Barbados

November, 2005 - Amy was seen in a Salinja club, Curacao


Added

December, 2002 - Amy's photograph appeared on the AAV website.

Are you wondering where Puerto Rico comes in and why the Puerto Rican Office is in charge of the investigation? If so, me too. :waitasec:
 
  • #1,190
OK I just checked the 8 EC's on FB and none had the TAZ profile pic. Anybody else try? My understanding is the waiter is from Portugal. Is that still the case?
 
  • #1,191
The chain of events was driving me crazy, so I'm just trying to get it straight. Looking at it now, it looks like it was five days before the search with dogs was conducted. :(

All information from Part III Amy Interrupted
http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/part-iii/Content?oid=1383740

Tues. March 24th - Amy disappeared

Wed. March 25h -Curacao began the first full day of sea-and-air searches for Amy.

Thurs. March 26th - the Bradleys flew to St. Martin to intercept the Rhapsody of the Seas.... the ship was in foreign waters and chartered in another nation, so the family had to ask permission for the FBI to be allowed to investigate.

Fri. March 27th - Royal Caribbean employees began distributing Amy's photo, while still allowing passengers on and off the boat. The Bradleys asked that guards be posted on the pool deck to look for her but they allege it wasn't done.

Sat. March 28th - Search conducted by FBI with dogs. Bradleys leave to return home.


I think I got this down right. Feel free to correct me anyone. TIA
 
  • #1,192
From the verified insider on Thread 1:

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/2926/?id=2926&showID=623

Amy's mother, Iva, explains how the cruise came about. "In 1998 my husband, Ron, won a trip and so we went as a family. Our first stop was Aruba, and then after that was Curuçao. When we were on the ship, we noticed immediately there was a tremendous amount of attention toward Amy from the crew members. After dinner, the waiter came out of the dining room and asked me where Amy was, and I asked him why, and he said, 'Well, we want to take her to Carlos 'N Charlie's.'

"When the waiter asked, I thought it was maybe a little forward of him to be asking those types of questions," Ron adds.

"When Amy came back, I said, 'The waiter wants to take you to Carlos 'N Charlie's with his friends.' And then Amy looked at me and said, 'They're creepy. And I'm not going anywhere with them.'"

"There was a dance troupe that was allowed onboard the ship," Iva continues. "There was a bass player who I noticed. And he was a very unsavory looking character. Amy told her brother, Brad, that the bass player had been hitting on her. She said that he was a real jerk."


These are statements made by the Bradleys to Dr. Phil. This information is completely correct. Alister Douglas (Yellow) was not the only member of the crew who was overly attentive to Amy. Alister Douglas was the bass player in the band. Another attentive crew member was a Portuguese waiter. He asked Amy to go with the crew to Carlos and Charlies the night before she disappeared. Amy thought that these crew members were creepy and she didn't go with them. She stayed on the ship with her family. She took part in a limbo contest and then she went to the disco with her brother, Brad. The waiter made some unusual comments to the Bradleys, the following day.

I personally believe that there were at least two crew members who handed Amy over to someone for her removal from the ship. Alister Douglas was the last person seen with Amy in the disco area of the ship. He was carrying a dark liquid (coffee?) for her. A short time later, though, he was found in his room supposedly asleep. I do believe that Amy was passed to someone else where she was kept until she was moved off of the ship. Amy's removal from the ship was probably in a laundry cart, a large box, or a trunk. She could not have walked off of the ship and proceeded through Customs because she did not have her passport. Royal Caribbean made no attempt to stop passengers from leaving the ship and they made no attempt to inspect anything coming off of the ship, after they learned that Amy was missing. I believe that Amy was selected by someone connected to Royal Caribbean and Curacao. I believe that Alister Douglas was not the only crew member paid to deliver Amy.

Amy was taken off of Rhapsody of the Seas in the Curacao cruise terminal. She was probably drugged and in a container. It is very unlikely that the taxi driver saw her running through the parking lot, especially when he never noticed that she wasn't wearing shoes. The Curacao cruise terminal is only blocks from the old Otrobanda hotel where she was seen, less than a year later.

(BBM)
 
  • #1,193
From verified insider on Thread 1, Post 278:

Originally Posted by FindAmy
The Bradleys absolutely believe Amy is alive, as do I. Amy's case is not a cold case. It is current and active.

(snip)

There hasn't been any information released about sightings since the Barbados sighting in 2005. It's really important to keep newer information confidential because it can effect Amy's safety and the integrity of the case. Details from older sightings and sometimes other information hasn't been released, either.

I'm sorry that I can't give you a better answer, but we have to keep Amy safe.

(BBM)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8279961
 
  • #1,194
I wonder what made Amy think they were "creepy" so soon? Did they say or do something to her before they asked her mom if they could take her to Carlos 'N Charlie's ? And when she says "them" who was she referring to? All the waiters? Crew members?
 
  • #1,195
Odd coincidence that both Amy and "attentive waiter" had Tasmanian Devil tattoos. I imagine it had something to do with sports, or cartoon - did the waiter think it might score points with Amy, did the waiter acquire it before Amy did? Did anyone question why she wore a man's watch?"

I may have missed it, but do you have a source to back up the info in bold? Back when a screen grab of his FB was posted, it showed his profile pic as being the Tasmanian Devil -- which was weird enough -- but not a tattoo.

What would Amy wearing a men's watch have to do with her disappearance? (serious question, not snarky)
 
  • #1,196
Does anyone have a quick recollection of what Amy did when she got back to the cabin? IIRC, she changed clothing (??) She changed into a pair of jeans, IIRC. Jaime are you here? I don't see you down there but I see you posting. Maybe you remember.
 
  • #1,197
OK I just checked the 8 EC's on FB and none had the TAZ profile pic. Anybody else try? My understanding is the waiter is from Portugal. Is that still the case?

Yes, Portugal.
 
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I wonder what made Amy think they were "creepy" so soon? Did they say or do something to her before they asked her mom if they could take her to Carlos 'N Charlie's ? And when she says "them" who was she referring to? All the waiters? Crew members?

The waiters.
 
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The waiters.

I wonder why she thought they were "creepy" so quickly? What day of the cruise was it when she said it? Was it the following evening?

Did any of them say or do something?
 
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