VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #2

[dangrsmind]

to quote from his own site with bio:

"Syko Sam has been a fan of the Horrorcore/Wicked **** genre since 1999 so therefor as a huge fan of the music he wanted to contribute to the genre to give to those fans of the genre as well as making it for himself to explore his creative side, thus Syko Sam being born."

Not discounting his parents were to blame for his problems but that's my criticism of this genre, it preys on kids like Sam.

Just because a person has a dark side, or they've been mistreated or anti-social doesn't mean they are destined to become a killer in all cases. Was Sam destined to become a killer? Maybe not. I think it was the perfect storm of elements culminating into senseless murders. I think all are equally responsible.

FWIW he didn't make that site.

 

[dangrsmind]

From a local bay area rave related board:

SarahThiZZle Sep 26 2009, 02:43 PM Post #128

Ok first of all. what the ****. Get your facts straight before you wanna try and put someone on blast. For one, my parents are not hells angels, I do NOT live ina ****in crack house or in san leandro for that matter. Hello....it ****in says castro valley u dumb ****. I did NOT stop raving because people were insecure and decided to come online and bash someone they didnt know but didnt have the balls to say **** to my face. I can really give a **** what any of you think for that matter, I am just setting the record straight.

Yeah your definitely one to talk down upon people you two faced **** sideshow. Nice to someones face but then as soon as you can hide in ur dark stanky filthy room im sure u stay inand sit in front of a screen probably beating off to the fact that a girl actually accept your friend request on myspace...thats when you decide to talk ****. Yeah. way to go. Everyone give it up for this lazy fat ****.

I like how none of you actually have your own opinion. As soon as someone said they didnt like me, what did you do...jump on the ****in bandwagon. Can any of you think for yourselves? As a matter of fact, we did not give anyone consent to put our pictures up on the internet, my phone number, my house all over the news not blurring out my address or license plate number. Its the ****in media...they dont care about consent. So before you go and try and talk like you know whats goin on and giving out facts, why dont you at least try and get some true facts to add some truth to your story ok.

I am in no way using my brother being accused to try and get "famous" I am doing pretty ****ing good being in magazines and newspaper for my production company I run, for you to accuse me of such things is bull****. My brother is innocent, I want people to know who my brother is to stop and think..."hey is this guy really capable of killing 4 people by himself without one ****ing person hearing a scream?"

No, there is WAY more to this ****ed up situation then the media is gonna let out. There is no truth behind anything you have seen or read on the news. He was setup...i cant say anything but let me tell you. After all this is done, everyone is gonna feel real ****in stupid. You have no idea how much it hurts to have the cops ransack your house, trash everything, press everywhere with you not being able to go home because of it. The whole world having my number, calling me left and right to either say they are sorry or say they are gonna ****in slice my throat. My personal life has been put up on ****in display for the whole entire world to see. I hope that one of your loved ones does this **** and lets see how you ****in feel to come online and see your name being thrown around and dragged in the mud JUST for being related....

I have really cleaned up my life and was going somewhere and now I have to start all over cause everything has been taken away. You know, a lot of you were my friends. And now you sit here talking **** just cause you wanna waste some of your miserable life on here talking **** with all the rest of the losers, clicking refresh every 10 seconds praying that one of your "friends" is agreeing with you. You guys make me sick. I dont need anyones ****ing sympathy, and I can give a **** what you think. You arent going to put a damper on my day. So go ahead, sit on your day and try to come up with a witty comeback or comment so the internet message board geeks will think you are cool for 2 seconds. As long as it makes you feel better.

Thank you mark for being a true friend. You need to let me know what time you work next cause I pass your work at least 4 times a day. I could really use a mark burger


Edited to add: Holy karmic loop Batman.

 

[tapu]

She seems ambivalent in what she's saying: first that something else happened, Sam didn't do this, or at least not by himself; but then she says, wait until your loved one does something like this.

 

[Heroine]

So he (apparently) brutally murdered three people with a blunt instrument, then hung around with the bodies, and then murdered a fourth person. And he did it just for the lulz? It's all just a joke?

But he's not a deranged psychopath...

Hmm.

Yeah good question there dangrsmind, we have established that they are pretty sure Sam committed these murders right? Am I reading the wrong thread or something?
To me making a joke about brutally killing 4 people is pretty deranged, (whether you did it or not) which makes me believe that he was pretty sick. Is he a psychopath? I don't know, but I think he kind of diagnosed himself with that label when he lost it on those poor people. I mean no disrespect, but I can't see it any other way.

 

[dangrsmind]

She seems ambivalent in what she's saying: first that something else happened, Sam didn't do this, or at least not by himself; but then she says, wait until your loved one does something like this.

Hmm I disagree. She's pretty clear I think actually. I took her posting out of context, but some of the people on the board were talking **** and she was putting them in their place. The one fellow "sideshow" is a pretty notorious **** talker and he was accusing her of talking to the press to get publicity for herself among other not very nice things.

McCrosky's sister says he's not guilty and it seems that she believes it. We also have someone else here saying that the crime seems totally out of character to the person they knew (admittedly only online though).

However I have a hard time understanding why he would make the "Jesus made me do it" comment if in fact he's innocent. Not a good time to be funny...

 

[dangrsmind]

Yeah good question there dangrsmind, we have established that they are pretty sure Sam committed these murders right? Am I reading the wrong thread or something?
To me making a joke about brutally killing 4 people is pretty deranged, (whether you did it or not) which makes me believe that he was pretty sick. Is he a psychopath? I don't know, but I think he kind of diagnosed himself with that label when he lost it on those poor people. I mean no disrespect, but I can't see it any other way.

Actually I don't think that this is established at all. He's only been charged with one murder so far and there hasn't been word one about the three other cases.

It may be that police are just working through the forensic evidence before charging him in the other killings. Or it could be that there are some discrepancies.

 

[Heroine]

Actually I don't think that is established at all. He's only been charged with one murder so far and there hasn't been word one about the three other cases.

Well if he did kill them something is wrong with him. Even if he didn't why did he think it was funny? Murder, or even being accused is no laughing matter.

 

[Sykke]

However I have a hard time understanding why he would make the "Jesus made me do it" comment if in fact he's innocent. Not a good time to be funny...

I rewatched the video and it said "Jesus told me to do it".

Anyways, that's just how he is. He tries to pull laughs out of everything; which is kinda what I do.

But, I have my limits. If I were in his position I wouldn't be making jokes there, because people take it WAY too seriously and start looking way too into things.

 

[dangrsmind]

Well if he did kill them something is wrong with him. Even if he didn't why did he think it was funny? Murder, or even being accused is no laughing matter.

Agree.

Sidenote: I am a bit weirded out about this whole thing right now after realizing that I've met her.

 

[dangrsmind]

I rewatched the video and it said "Jesus told me to do it".

Anyways, that's just how he is. He tries to pull laughs out of everything; which is kinda what I do.

But, I have my limits. If I were in his position I wouldn't be making jokes there, because people take it WAY too seriously and start looking way too into things.

Thanks for the correction.

There's one version of that clip where they show him as he's approaching the building. He smiles. Then again as he (apparently) sees himself in the reflection of the glass doors.

I have to say the smiles plus the joking about Jesus telling him to do it really convinced me that he not only killed these four people but might have killed others before.

If he's innocent he's also really really stupid.

 

[Heroine]

Agree.

Sidenote: I am a bit weirded out about this whole thing right now after realizing that I've met her.

Are you referring to Sam meeting Emma or you meeting someone? That sidenote has me confused.

 

[dangrsmind]

Are referring to Sam meeting Emma or you meeting someone? That sidenote has me confused.

Sorry. I realized that I have met Sarah McCroskey. I did not connect her with her raver name, sarahthizzle, until today. I met her briefly at a beach party maybe 1-2 years back now. I was there with my wife. There were maybe 50 people there and I met all of them. I didn't have a conversation or anything that I can recall, but we met everyone that was out there at least briefly.

 

[NativeGirl]

Im so sick of being like this. I have no idea why i get all pissy and upset. Why I have these high and low points. I cant control it. I hate it. I go from happy to pissy in 2 minutes. And it will be caused my nothing. I odnt knwo wut to do. I know its cause of my bi polar disorder.

And I stopped takin my pills. i seriously think i should get back on em. I cant take this anymore. im sick of having mental breakdowns for nohing. Im sick of gettin so low and dpressed that I cut everyone out for weeks at a time. I cant keep doin thin. Im about to ****in lose it..
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A Part From Sarah's(Sams Sister) Journal above so here we know that she is bi polar and once was on meds, she even states she need to start taking her pills again.. I wonder if sam took any meds or ever was diagnosed with some sort of mental problem/problems??

 

[Heroine]

Sorry. I realized that I have met Sarah McCroskey. I did not connect her with her raver name, sarahthizzle, until today. I met her briefly at a beach party maybe 1-2 years back now. I was there with my wife. There were maybe 50 people there and I met all of them. I didn't have a conversation or anything that I can recall, but we met everyone that was out there at least briefly.

Oh...haha at first I thought you meant you met me. I was like huh?....who are you?

 

[dangrsmind]

Oh...haha at first I thought you meant you met me. I was like huh?....who are you?

Hah. Sorry for the confusion there.

 

[NativeGirl]

YouTube - A lil stoned info about me
Sarah's documentary about herself

YouTube - Mmmmm pot
sarahthizzle(Sam's Sister) smokin pot, chris smokin pot, and doin oxycodene. yea

YouTube - my baby and my house
Sarahs Living Room

YouTube - accciiidddd
Sarah On Acid/LSD

YouTube - Us on mushrooms
Sarah on Shrooms

 

[dangrsmind]

Sarah's documentary about herself
<snip>
Sarah on Shrooms

Ok, so I am starting to feel a little bit old here. I don't really understand this fad with people getting wasted and taking videos of themselves. Do they think the videos are interesting? Who watches them? Why doesn't anyone realize how stupid this is?

Will have to consult my oldest son on this one.

PS I also found those videos and some other stuff from Sarah's online presence. You may have seen some other things including the specific thing I am concerned about if you found these videos too. I decided not to post it because I thought it could bring harm but I fully expect someone will. PM me if you want, I won't post any more about this here.

 

[NativeGirl]

Ok, so I am starting to feel a little bit old here. I don't really understand this fad with people getting wasted and taking videos of themselves. Do they think the videos are interesting? Who watches them? Why doesn't anyone realize how stupid this is?

Will have to consult my oldest son on this one.

losers with no life I would say..

 

[Heroine]

Ok, so I am starting to feel a little bit old here. I don't really understand this fad with people getting wasted and taking videos of themselves. Do they think the videos are interesting? Who watches them? Why doesn't anyone realize how stupid this is?

Will have to consult my oldest son on this one.

PS I also found those videos and some other stuff from Sarah's online presence. You may have seen some other things including the specific thing I am concerned about if you found these videos too. I decided not to post it because I thought it could bring harm but I fully expect someone will. PM me if you want, I won't post any more about this here.

Now I want to know about this specific thing you speak of.

 

[dangrsmind]

"At least three of the four victims found slain in a Farmville home last month had been bludgeoned with a wood-cutting maul, sources close to the case tell CBS 6.

The female victims &#8211; 18-year-old Melanie Wells, 16-year old Emma Niederbrock and her mother, Debra S. Kelley, were struck while asleep or in an otherwise defenseless position, the sources said. There is no evidence at this point of any sexual assaults."

From http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-farmville-murder-update,0,1981283.story

For those that haven't spent any time splitting logs: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS341US341&q=wood+maul

And sounds like they have the murder weapon.