VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #4

[Jade]

IMO the ‘sane, famous actor’ is paid PR, lol. The Smollett family is reputedly long term personal friends with Angela Davis, who has certainly rehabbed her image IMO

Sorry not clear.

The vocal fringe is haters of who and what JS is and think someone cares that they don't like him.

Like JS was some important guy they can use against the rest of what they think he represents.

Not supportive of JS at all.

I saw the JS Twitter though, lol.

All imo

 

[squareandrabbet]

And didn't the assault happen in the bar area? Why would someone take an open bottle of booze from the bar area to an office area? If they were "cleaning up" wouldn't they just dump it?

Plus, not to get too graphic… it looks pristine. Not like anyone ever had to wipe down the outside of label; and there would be bodily fluids involved.

I’m not quite sure we yet understand the specific differences between her raft of photos and Ben King’s rafts of photos by topic (are his labeled?) ; it’s possible he took this photo because he wanted a benchmark for the amount of liquor left in the bottles, or to see what he had to replace. which would explain the contention I’ve seen that she only saw this bottle recently (it took time for his photos to make it into evidence), and then went through a retroactive soap opera rigmarole saying ‘oh, oh, it’s all coming back to me!’

 

[PatLaurel]

You can see them in one of the guest rooms here

https://www.domain.com.au/290-colman-road-coomera-qld-4209-2017441372

and in the master bath here

https://www.realestate.com.au/property/290-colman-rd-coomera-qld-4209

I know. But, given that we can't see the outlets behind the nightstands in the two rooms i mentioned, i was "kind of giving" AH the benefit of the doubt. Although i doubt that an architect or interior designer would use different outlets in just one room on a 10 bedroom mansion. And thanks to @ZoriahNZ we all know that this photo was not taken in Australia and that AH lied under oath!

MOO JMO

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Plus, not to get too graphic… it looks pristine. Not like anyone ever had to wipe down the outside of label; and there would be bodily fluids involved.

I’m not quite sure we yet understand the specific differences between her raft of photos and Ben King’s rafts of photos by topic (are his labeled?) ; it’s possible he took this photo because he wanted a benchmark for the amount of liquor left in the bottles, or to see what he had to replace. which would explain the contention I’ve seen that she only saw this bottle recently (it took time for his photos to make it into evidence), and then went through a retroactive soap opera rigmarole saying ‘oh, oh, it’s all coming back to me!’

Wouldn't there also be blood on the label from JD's severed finger? Or are we supposed to believe he used his non-dominant hand, or gloves?

Okay, taking a step back for a moment. This case has some very serious allegations on both sides.

I did want to point out that some people seem to be approaching it from the idea that a couple are only now airing their dirty laundry in public (so to speak) and that the public nature of this is distasteful.

But you have to remember that AH has been making it public since 2016. And even after the divorce settlement, she couldn't just let it go. She had to publish a hit piece in the Washington Post in 2018. And JD has had to endure the consequences of all of these public accusations. There's a reason that JD's legal team insisted on a public televised trial. Because he finally has the chance to fight to regain his reputation publicly. People can watch the proceedings and decide for themselves who and what to believe. The UK trial was behind closed doors and yet the UK (and global) tabloids still got to air all the juicy details with rather high res 'leaked' pictures supplied from a 'source'.

Right now we are seeing more evidence of attempts to smear JD - in real time - in the latest TMZ article which has published a 'new' picture of AH with a cut lip which was apparently not permitted to be submitted into evidence for this trial. The judge disallowed it. Luckily it has already been debunked as AH has plenty of pictures of a split lip before and after JD and there is even footage of her picking at her bottom lip repeatedly during the trial itself. And TMZ acknowledged in an update that the photo is from 2012 in the metadata and yet in the UK trail AH swore under oath the first physical attack happened in 2013.

Amber Heard 'Bloody Lip' Photo, Johnny Depp's Team Say It's Bogus

A blatant attempt to circumvent the courts by publishing a private photo through a gossip site? Again, who would be the source? And who was the source for the TMZ video of JD and the cabinets? TMZ says they own the rights to that video. Interestingly they didn't publish the whole video where it shows AH giggling and smirking at the end of it. So someone sold them that video. I wonder who?

Think about it.

Edited to add in TMZ link and a bit more detail.

 

[DeDee]

In looking at the glorious home in AU, one must wonder why AH refused to get along with JD. Why was she always wanting to argue and fight with him? Not all of the arguments and hitting occurred after Johnny discovered he was worth much less than half of his previous new worth. If the violence inflicted upon Johnny had only been after the discovery of diminished wealth, one may assume she was done and moving on to wealthier men, ie., EM. Who among us hasn't seen EM sporting a black eye while in the presence of AH?

It seems that access to all of the wealth in the world could not reasonably please her.

JD allowed her to spend his money on expensive wine and for her friends to live rent free in a LA penthouse. The only reason I can conclude that she couldn't find happiness, or in the least satisfaction, with all of the opportunities before her, is that it is not in her to be happy. She is an empty vessel that no one and nothing can fill.


There was earlier discussion re: Amber and her legal eagles gathering to strengthen her strategy during this hiatus. She cannot do that per the Judge's instructions. AH was told not to discuss the case with anyone, to include her attorneys, since she is still giving testimony.

moo and all that jazz

@7:25:00 w/ over 8M views

 

[steff13]

I believe in one of the recordings they played he said to her that he had done everything he could to make her happy, but she didn't want to be happy.

 

[TxLady2]

IMO, regarding the severed finger, I'm having a hard time accepting that could happen from just a bottle thrown at him. I would think one would have to hold the bottle very tightly and put a lot of pressure behind it in order to completely sever the finger, because of the bone. IMO, it's difficult to cut through a bone. I've had cuts from broken glass many times... Never had the glass to cut through the bone.
I'm not a doctor but just going by common sense here.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Wouldn't there also be blood on the label from JD's severed finger? Or are we supposed to believe he used his non-dominant hand, or gloves?

Okay, taking a step back for a moment. This case has some very serious allegations on both sides.

I did want to point out that some people seem to be approaching it from the idea that a couple are only now airing their dirty laundry in public (so to speak) and that the public nature of this is distasteful.

But you have to remember that AH has been making it public since 2016. And even after the divorce settlement, she couldn't just let it go. She had to publish a hit piece in the Washington Post in 2018. And JD has had to endure the consequences of all of these public accusations. There's a reason that JD's legal team insisted on a public televised trial. Because he finally has the chance to fight to regain his reputation publicly. People can watch the proceedings and decide for themselves who and what to believe. The UK trial was behind closed doors and yet the UK (and global) tabloids still got to air all the juicy details with rather high res 'leaked' pictures supplied from a 'source'.

Right now we are seeing more evidence of attempts to smear JD - in real time - in the latest TMZ article which has published a 'new' picture of AH with a cut lip which was apparently not permitted to be submitted into evidence for this trial. The judge disallowed it. Luckily it has already been debunked as AH has plenty of pictures of a split lip before and after JD and there is even footage of her picking at her bottom lip repeatedly during the trial itself. And TMZ acknowledged in an update that the photo is from 2012 in the metadata and yet in the UK trail AH swore under oath the first physical attack happened in 2013.

Amber Heard 'Bloody Lip' Photo, Johnny Depp's Team Say It's Bogus

A blatant attempt to circumvent the courts by publishing a private photo through a gossip site? Again, who would be the source? And who was the source for the TMZ video of JD and the cabinets? TMZ says they own the rights to that video. Interestingly they didn't publish the whole video where it shows AH giggling and smirking at the end of it. So someone sold them that video. I wonder who?

Think about it.

Edited to add in TMZ link and a bit more detail.

Yes, his team says the metadata of this photo shows it was taken in... 2012, which add a pretty ominous fillip to the ridiculous note she's holding up... which people have said also bears a distinct resemblance to her own handwriting.

I'm also sure we've heard both the rumors she tossed up as part of her testimony about being "worried" over his daughter, as gossip in the public eye well previous; so we can be pretty sure she's the one who originally leaked them as well.

She is an empty vessel that no one and nothing can fill.

You said it exactly; and so, I believe, did he, once he finally figured it out, as per the highly dramatic tapes... "I gave you everything... you're still not happy. You'll never be happy."

He clearly thought, after her self-described penurious upbringing (which I might argue sounds middle-class), that spoiling her would make her happy (hint: it didn't work).

I continually feel so sad for her infant daughter, as a result of this blatant (IMO) sign of personality disorder. I hope she can keep a good nanny.

 

[squareandrabbet]

IMO, regarding the severed finger, I'm having a hard time accepting that could happen from just a bottle thrown at him. I would think one would have to hold the bottle very tightly and put a lot of pressure behind it in order to completely sever the finger, because of the bone. IMO, it's difficult to cut through a bone. I've had cuts from broken glass many times... Never had the glass to cut through the bone.
I'm not a doctor but just going by common sense here.

I don't love it either from a common sense standpoint, but it is ragged; and he seems pretty convinced the doctor said it was a velocity wound, which seems pretty easy to disprove.

The only other pictures on Google Images I've seen of velocity wounds involve gunshots, so clearly it requires *some*thing of extreme force; and it was also testified that his security team tried saying he had slammed it in a car/accordion door and were roundly shouted down by the doctor.

If he shot it off himself (not that we have any evidence of guns present or bullet holes or anything), you would think her side would be gagging to tell it, or to get in some conversation about bullet wounds/holes/gunpowder etc. - the only reason her side would want to hide it, would be because they have reason to believe SHE shot it off.

The way I figure it is, they've got pretty good testimony from a hand doctor which we'll see on his team's rebuttal.

 

[fred&edna]

I'm still thinking about the "dog stepping on a bee" line in AH's testimony AND the Gucci bee tie worn first by JD and then the following day by AH. Is there something more hidden in the bee references??! Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous but ???

 

[acutename]

I believe the fundamental aspect (and most distressing) of this civil trial is the ACLU and AH (using subterfuge) published an op-ed in Wa-Po that alleged criminal conduct (physical and sexual abuse) by JD. The ACLU gained $3.5 million and AH (a woman with a history of physical abuse) became a public spokesperson representing victimized women. So far, I have yet to see actual proof of the very public allegations put forth by the ACLU and AH. However, I have seen proof that Johnny Depp lost (nearly) everything because of AH (and the ACLU).

And, I'm ordering mega-pints of Graeter's Black Raspberry Chocolate Chip ice cream to get me through the remainder of this trial
jmo

Please.... I had an irresistible craving for muffins after Mr. Depp's forensic psych expert's presentation and now you are tantalizing me with the ice cream...

 

[BeachSky]

Interesting thing pointed out in a video. AH said (in Austraila) that JD threw her across the room and she landed ON a game table. She even made a gesture with her hand indicating on top of. Is he like superman? This 50 something old man picked her up and sent her airborne across a room? Thats believable.

She also said she was holding his lapel and may have taken him flying in the air across the room with her. Yep.

Court TV has been replaying her testimony all week. IMO she is a really bad actor.
Nuff said.

 

[Aussieboy]

I just wish we could move the nightstands at 1:04 and 1:05 and see the power outlets behind them.

MOO JMO

It's highly unlikely that the evidence pictured power outlets are from the Australian home, Australia has a strict electrical code across all states, and you can't install a power outlet that doesn't comply with Australian standards, you generally can't have anything other flat bladed power points for general use in homes, unless you start going to industrial type equipment which still doesn't look like the pictured power outlets.

 

[rebelchild]

Plus, not to get too graphic… it looks pristine. Not like anyone ever had to wipe down the outside of label; and there would be bodily fluids involved.

I’m not quite sure we yet understand the specific differences between her raft of photos and Ben King’s rafts of photos by topic (are his labeled?) ; it’s possible he took this photo because he wanted a benchmark for the amount of liquor left in the bottles, or to see what he had to replace. which would explain the contention I’ve seen that she only saw this bottle recently (it took time for his photos to make it into evidence), and then went through a retroactive soap opera rigmarole saying ‘oh, oh, it’s all coming back to me!’

The photos that include the bottles came from Ben King .. I have spent a good portion of the day going back and listening to all the testimony so far for this incident. While looking at the photo of the bottles and explaining how she didn't realize that was the bottle until the last day or two, she blurted out that she had only just seen those photos because "they" had failed to turn them over .. which quickly got a sustained objection.

Furthermore .. I happen to have a Makers Mark bottle in my adult beverage area .. and I can say there is no way this thing wouldn't have caused some noticeable damage. Especially since she testified that he was being forceful enough that she thought he was "punching her with his fist in the pubic bone". The red piece at the top of the bottle is a hard plastic .. the little drips going down the bottle are loose and not firmly attached to the sides of the bottle (meaning they do not stay in place if you run your hand up and down the bottle) .. and when you twist the cap off it leaves a sharp edge where it was connected at the top.

Her testimony about this incident ..
Her attorney: Did you bleed from the V***** as well?
AH: I did
Her attorney: Did you experience any pain later?
AH: I didn't.. ahh... I wasn't thinking about that and I was heartbroken .. eventually I was thinking that I could be hurt because I was bleeding .. but.. uhh.. I convinced myself that it wasn't broken .. that the bottle wasn't broken or else it would be a lot worse

@Sincerely .. this is not the same incident as the post you went back and liked. After listening to this testimony again, the quote "I didn't even feel the pain" must have come from a different story and if I remember correctly it was possibly the one she testified to as the first incident in 2014.

 

[brissygirl2019]

That house they stayed in at Coomera is a 40 minute drive from where I live, it would be nice if I could qualify to do an inspection & have a close up look at some power points. If only!

 

[katydid23]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524838847913283591

This ^^ has a quote from a British magazine---'LIVE'----in which AH compares herself to Scarlett Johansson, saying how she deserved the role more than Scarlett because 'the part of Cenault called for an actress, not a famous person'---SMH

So she basically says Scarlett J, two time nominee for an Oscar, is not a real actress, but just a famous person? Unlike Amber, who believes she deserved that role instead ?

 

[squareandrabbet]

IMO, that’s a very fancy self-aggrandizing way of saying ‘they needed a new discovery/opposite of an actress, so that their notoriety doesn’t overwhelm the project’; but Hailee Steinfeld or Brooklyn Prince she ain’t.

 

[swedeheart]

Wouldn't there also be blood on the label from JD's severed finger? Or are we supposed to believe he used his non-dominant hand, or gloves?

Okay, taking a step back for a moment. This case has some very serious allegations on both sides.

I did want to point out that some people seem to be approaching it from the idea that a couple are only now airing their dirty laundry in public (so to speak) and that the public nature of this is distasteful.

But you have to remember that AH has been making it public since 2016. And even after the divorce settlement, she couldn't just let it go. She had to publish a hit piece in the Washington Post in 2018. And JD has had to endure the consequences of all of these public accusations. There's a reason that JD's legal team insisted on a public televised trial. Because he finally has the chance to fight to regain his reputation publicly. People can watch the proceedings and decide for themselves who and what to believe. The UK trial was behind closed doors and yet the UK (and global) tabloids still got to air all the juicy details with rather high res 'leaked' pictures supplied from a 'source'.

Right now we are seeing more evidence of attempts to smear JD - in real time - in the latest TMZ article which has published a 'new' picture of AH with a cut lip which was apparently not permitted to be submitted into evidence for this trial. The judge disallowed it. Luckily it has already been debunked as AH has plenty of pictures of a split lip before and after JD and there is even footage of her picking at her bottom lip repeatedly during the trial itself. And TMZ acknowledged in an update that the photo is from 2012 in the metadata and yet in the UK trail AH swore under oath the first physical attack happened in 2013.

Amber Heard 'Bloody Lip' Photo, Johnny Depp's Team Say It's Bogus

A blatant attempt to circumvent the courts by publishing a private photo through a gossip site? Again, who would be the source? And who was the source for the TMZ video of JD and the cabinets? TMZ says they own the rights to that video. Interestingly they didn't publish the whole video where it shows AH giggling and smirking at the end of it. So someone sold them that video. I wonder who?

Think about it.

Edited to add in TMZ link and a bit more detail.

I hope Johnny's team will use the newly released TMZ photo with the split lip to impeach Amber in cross, since the metadata was so easily proven.

Maybe Johnny's team leaked it?

 

[DeDee]

It's highly unlikely that the evidence pictured power outlets are from the Australian home, Australia has a strict electrical code across all states, and you can't install a power outlet that doesn't comply with Australian standards, you generally can't have anything other flat bladed power points for general use in homes, unless you start going to industrial type equipment which still doesn't look like the pictured power outlets.

When we traveled to EU, mostly France, precovid, we needed power plug adapters. However, I couldn't find them in my home if given $100. They are not expensive though. I think we paid maybe $20 for 2 of them.
We did not go to Germany. I think they require a different type of adapter. PH and JD traveled to Spain and various other foreign countries.

The Best Travel Adapters for International Destinations

 

[Sincerely]

My stance on this, well the part about Johnny Depp’s imagine being negatively impacted is that it certainly was. I have been a fan of Depp’s since the original 21 Jump Street. I was a preteen and had a crush. I followed him in so many more movies and liked his unique characters. After the allegations of abuse and the media’s harsh portrayal of Johnny, I didn’t pay attention to him anymore. I didn’t know Amber Heard and still didn’t a week into the trial because I didn’t watch it. It was TikTok and my daughter who brought it to my attention and then I started doing research. I was still asking who is Amber Heard because I truly did not know and knew nothing about Aquaman. I never “cancelled” Johnny but started to think of him in a negative light. Not because of his addiction but because of the alleged abuse and how the dogs were supposedly being treated too. So if the abuse is false, then Ambers lies definitely hurt his image and career. IMO. I just hope the jury sees this.