VA - Joseph Ryan shot, Christine Banfield stabbed, both deceased, in home - Herndon 24 Feb 2023

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The bailif sitting behind the defendant is missing his 80s stache to complete the young Burt Reynolds look he's got going on. LOL
He looks like a young Steve Buscemi!
 
  • #682
Body cam footage damaging to defense. He said on 911 call that he was tendering aid. Remember CB lived until she arrived at the hospital. BB taking the stand could really go sideways for him.

 
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I wonder if his DNA was under CB’s nails?
 
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Yes, this is that.

Was this shown in court? Some of the detectives and medical staff must have recognized that there was no water coming from his eyes. There literally wasn’t a tear.

He is a bad actor and I’m sure he thought that no one would see this footage. The fake hyperventilating is so obvious. Just like JM did in front of the house.
 
  • #687
Was this shown in court? Some of the detectives and medical staff must have recognized that there was no water coming from his eyes. There literally wasn’t a tear.

He is a bad actor and I’m sure he thought that no one would see this footage. The fake hyperventilating is so obvious. Just like JM did in front of the house.
LE was immediately dubious and you can see the way the medical staff is regarding him. I think he kept his face down deliberately.

I look forward to his taking the stand.

RIP Joe & Christine, hopefully justice is coming.
 
  • #688
The degree to which he wanted his wife to suffer can’t be overstated, her final moments were terror and then betrayal imho. Then he literally slotted the au pair in as mommy the same day of the murders and then tried to destroy Christine’s reputation and memory. Evil. Jmoo.

 
  • #689
LE was immediately dubious and you can see the way the medical staff is regarding him. I think he kept his face down deliberately.

I look forward to his taking the stand.

RIP Joe & Christine, hopefully justice is coming.

Good point. He squirms in court when the camera is on him. Initially he didn’t make eye contact but now I think he is realizing how guilty he looks so he is painfully trying to manage his demeanour.
 
  • #690
Body cam footage damaging to defense. He said on 911 call that he was tendering aid. Remember CB lived until she arrived at the hospital. BB taking the stand could really go sideways for him.

This YouTube channel is an approved source now..JusticeIsAProcess is the name and they offer up clips from trial livestreams and also post full trials.
 
  • #691
I think the reason it's not riveting is because there's really only one witness able to tell the story.

You have all these logs from the website that don't really mean anything unless JM is giving the narrative because it was done on Christine's laptop when she was home. Without JM, there's no way to prove it wasn't Christine.

It's like when you go to a seminar and the same person is talking for 5 hours. It gets boring listening to the same person. Panel discussions are more interesting.
And that one witness is a convicted murderer with a possible sweetheart plea deal who's testifing for the prosecution.
Plus the defense attorney John Carroll comes across like he's on a slow speed tranquilizer.
imo
 
  • #692
Thank you George, he opens with the prosecution lacked "passion" in their opening and throughout and made no emotional connection with the jury that 2 innocent people lost their lives.

The Au Pair Trial Gets Messy | Week One Recap with Big George​


Yes the star witness for the prosecution (JM) is not a particularly good witness in that she has difficulty giving details and is often incoherent with her answers. This may be more due to the language barrier than anything else. But either way she is somewhat difficult to understand - both verbally and logically. I also don't believe the prosecution is doing a particularly good job. For example, when asking JM about what she saw when she went into the bedroom, they did not press her for details. Important questions were never asked such as- Where was JR in relation to CB when she entered the room? (I assume he was on top of her but that was never made clear) Were they on the bed? (it appears they were on the floor due to crime scene photos) Did JR have the knife in his hand went she entered the bedroom? Where was the knife when BB picked it up? Was BB wearing gloves at that time? When and how was JRs body moved and who did that? (apparently there is evidence of blood smears on his body which indicate he was moved after he was shot). One of the few questions the prosecutor asked JM about the scene in the bedroom when she first entered was what did JR look like when BB entered the room and said "stop police". JM said he looked shocked. Not sure why they even asked that or what the significance was of her answer. That question nor the answer seems to be helpful to neither the prosecution or the defense. That seems like a silly question and not necessary when there are so many other more important questions that could have asked. But am not a lawyer so maybe I don't know.
 
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Recap..2 hrs ago

 
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Yes the star witness for the prosecution (JM) is not a particularly good witness in that she has difficulty giving details and is often incoherent with her answers. This may be more due to the language barrier than anything else. But either way she is somewhat difficult to understand - both verbally and logically. I also don't believe the prosecution is doing a particularly good job. For example, when asking JM about what she saw when she went into the bedroom, they did not press her for details. Important questions were never asked such as- Where was JR in relation to CB when she entered the room? (I assume he was on top of her but that was never made clear) Were they on the bed? (it appears they were on the floor due to crime scene photos) Did JR have the knife in his hand went she entered the bedroom? Where was the knife when BB picked it up? Was BB wearing gloves at that time? When and how was JRs body moved and who did that? (apparently there is evidence of blood smears on his body which indicate he was moved after he was shot). One of the few questions the prosecutor asked JM about the scene in the bedroom when she first entered was what did JR look like when BB entered the room and said "stop police". JM said he looked shocked. Not sure why they even asked that or what the significance was of her answer. That question nor the answer seems to be helpful to neither the prosecution or the defense. That seems like a silly question and not necessary when there are so many other more important questions that could have asked. But am not a lawyer so maybe I don't know.
So much to ponder and not good for the prosecution.
Do you remember when JM told the prosecution that she heard "slaps" when she (and BB) were at the bottom of the stairs before they went upstairs?
I may have gotten this wrong and didn't look further for confirmation but I questioned why didn't the prosecution ask more about this?
Was this supposed to be assumed that JR slapping CB?
I would think that CB would be screaming.
imo
 
  • #695
Peter made a point of what prosecutors could have been thinking when agreeing to the plea deal for JM which his dad George does not agree with.
If JM does get the "time served" deal then she would be
deported to Brazil.
Problem is if the judge does give her time, up to 10 yrs, she would still be deported after serving it.
imo
 
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So much to ponder and not good for the prosecution.
Do you remember when JM told the prosecution that she heard "slaps" when she (and BB) were at the bottom of the stairs before they went upstairs?
I may have gotten this wrong and didn't look further for confirmation but I questioned why didn't the prosecution ask more about this?
Was this supposed to be assumed that JR slapping CB?
I would think that CB would be screaming.
imo
I agree- when JM made that statement there were no follow-up questions. Questions like What you mean by 'slaps'?" What did you interpret that sound to be from? Did you hear anything else? Did you hear screaming? You would think in that situation she would've heard something more than just that. I don't know maybe the lawyers think less is better from her?!
 
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I agree- when JM made that statement there were no follow-up questions. Questions like What you mean by 'slaps'?" What did you interpret that sound to be from? Did you hear anything else? Did you hear screaming? You would think in that situation she would've heard something more than just that. I don't know maybe the lawyers think less is better from her?!
Yes, "less is better" so let's try and present JM to the jury as the lesser of 2 evil murderers.
Did the prosecution ever mention that 2 innocent people were brutally murdered while questioning JM?
imo
 

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