VERDICT WATCH VA - Joseph Ryan shot, Christine Banfield stabbed, both deceased, in home - Herndon 24 Feb 2023

[Izzylizzy]

I thought au pairs were only to work for host family? After? Gotta vet your childcare. Google would have been a good place to check after.

Gezz, local TV news and local papers, Facebook etc?
I can't imagine anyone in the area not being glued to the story and gossiping.

Betcha every mom who had an au-pair went on high-alert.

imo

 

[mickey2942]

I thought au pairs were only to work for host family? After? Gotta vet your childcare. Google would have been a good place to check after.

That is my issue with temporary worker visas in the United States. It is exploitative. The places here hire gals from El Salvador for summer season to clean hotel rooms. They get a room to share, 4 or 8 to a room. They work 8 plus hours a day. Often working at various hotels, so they are always working. Then, end of the season, go home. Or in this case, end of Au Pair contract, go home.

They don't want to go home. As we see here. Why couldn't this family have hired a local nanny? Probably because it is less expensive to exploit someone from another country.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

That is my issue with temporary worker visas in the United States. It is exploitative. The places here hire gals from El Salvador for summer season to clean hotel rooms. They get a room to share, 4 or 8 to a room. They work 8 plus hours a day. Often working at various hotels, so they are always working. Then, end of the season, go home. Or in this case, end of Au Pair contract, go home.

They don't want to go home. As we see here. Why couldn't this family have hired a local nanny? Probably because it is less expensive to exploit someone from another country.

Christine made around $150k probably, BB less. I think they had irregular schedules, had a good experience with Amanda, etc. Had CB just not extended her for the 2nd allowable year she may be alive, JR would be for sure. But BB would still be plotting to eliminate her. He would not have had to pay alimony or CS being lower earner but neither could have afforded large house in DMV alone. After CB’s death BB moved in his mom + grandmother per JPM testimony. I think his mom’s partner too, all pooling funds. Jmooo. He did not want a hit to his SOL while he trolled Sugar Baby sites imo.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

Gezz, local TV news and local papers, Facebook etc?
I can't imagine anyone in the area not being glued to the story and gossiping.

Betcha every mom who had an au-pair went on high-alert.

imo

Or even just an occasional babysitter…

 

[turaj]

Christine made around $150k probably, BB less. I think they had irregular schedules, had a good experience with Amanda, etc. Had CB just not extended her for the 2nd allowable year she may be alive, JR would be for sure. But BB would still be plotting to eliminate her. He would not have had to pay alimony or CS being lower earner but neither could have afforded large house in DMV alone. After CB’s death BB moved in his mom + grandmother per JPM testimony. I think his mom’s partner too, all pooling funds. Jmooo. He did not want a hit to his SOL while he trolled Sugar Baby sites imo.

I would say his mother seems clueless....seeing JM move into the bedroom with him and mother moves in with partner and her mother. Is that the older lady sitting behind him in courtroom? Is that man his father or her new partner. I am confused and don't know the family history. This guy got to go down on Monday.

 

[turaj]

Or even just an occasional babysitter…

anyone have a photo of what she looked like when they hired her? Some of the photos I have seen look like a woman ready to come to US to find fun. Not someone that I would trust in the home with my husband.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

I would say his mother seems clueless....seeing JM move into the bedroom with him and mother moves in with partner and her mother. Is that the older lady sitting behind him in courtroom? Is that man his father or her new partner. I am confused and don't know the family history. This guy got to go down on Monday.

I think it is his father and step mother and mother’s female partner imho. His mother was a possible witness so could not be there for testimony.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

I think it is his father and step mother and mother’s female partner imho. His mother was a possible witness so could not be there for testimony.

I think like him rather than clueless, jmooo. Remember CB and BB met at 18 so families have known one another a long time. She did a lot that may have further traumatized V, keeping her from loved ones, and took many
actions to delay JPM taking a plea. Jmooo.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

anyone have a photo of what she looked like when they hired her? Some of the photos I have seen look like a woman ready to come to US to find fun. Not someone that I would trust in the home with my husband.

I think the prior + AP experience + JPM being nurse like CB got her hired and then extended for a second year. Jmooo. In hindsight, tragic choice for CB and JR. imoo.

 

[sunspun]

Okay I definitely hear a male voice on the recording and the only male in the room who is not incapacitated is BB. I hear on the recording "Get the knife Christie __" I cannot make out the last word. Perhaps my overactive imagination is just hearing things. I hope at some point we actually find out what the expert analyst thinks he heard. Assuming these are the words, not sure it helps either the CW or the defense.
I forget - did BB say he was in the basement with JM when the 911 hang up call was made? If he said he wasn't, then this voice analysis doesn't corroborate BB's story since this is definitely a male voice. Of course, the groaning on the call is even better evidence that this call was not made in the basement

Well, but according to BBs fake story, he wasn't the only male whose voice that could have been, right? Oh, no, of course, he said JR was already shot at that point. Plus, if the call was made from the basement, it couldn't have been JR, since BB said JR was only upstairs.

But in any case, if you heard it right, that would mean BB ordered CB to get the knife away from the man who she thought had been trying to stab her, and give it to the man who really was about to stab her!

So he had her hand him the murder weapon, and he proceeded to use it on her. Unthinkable.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

Well, but according to BBs fake story, he wasn't the only male whose voice that could have been, right? Oh, no, of course, he said JR was already shot at that point. Plus, if the call was made from the basement, it couldn't have been JR, since BB said JR was only upstairs.

But in any case, if you heard it right, that would mean BB ordered CB to get the knife away from the man who she thought had been trying to stab her, and give it to the man who really was about to stab her!

So he had her hand him the murder weapon, and he proceeded to use it on her. Unthinkable.

I thought he claimed he pulled the knife toward him with his toe? Jmooo.

 

[Megnut]

I thought he claimed he pulled the knife toward him with his toe? Jmooo.

Why that detail at all? Unless it was an oversplain, on account of the truth, if he had Christine retrieve it from the man he just shot.

For half of a second, she must have thought BB saved her... until....

What did you doooooo????

So awful, how ever it occurred.

JMO