VA VA - Kathleen Haley, 37, Newport News, 1 Sept 2012

[MagnoliaMom]

Did LE take the dumpster?

 

[hollyblue]

Did LE take the dumpster?

Good question. If it was the dog causing the smell, LE may be holding that back. If the mattress smelled of decomp then wouldn't she had been gone for sometime before it was placed in the dumpster? Blood itself wouldn't smell like decomp if it was placed in there shortly after she had passed...???

I'm disappointed there is not more out there thru MSM. I guess it's in the hands of LE and sadly no need for a missing FB page with all the horrible evidence found. God's speed to LE in solving it and prayers for her family and friends.

 

[OldSteve]

Looking for new news, nothing.... but in reading old items I was struck by this
"[The officer] felt under the circumstances that it was not at that point a missing persons [case]," Haley's mother said. A second call to police from Haley's family and another officer looking into the case classified it as a missing persons case."
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/newport_news/police-say-missing-woman-is-endangered-

Seems this should have a slam-dunk that something bad took place if only the time was taken to check her residence a bit.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Looking for new news, nothing.... but in reading old items I was struck by this
"[The officer] felt under the circumstances that it was not at that point a missing persons [case]," Haley's mother said. A second call to police from Haley's family and another officer looking into the case classified it as a missing persons case."
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/newport_news/police-say-missing-woman-is-endangered-

Seems this should have a slam-dunk that something bad took place if only the time was taken to check her residence a bit.

If there isn't already an investigation into the officer who responded to the first call, the family should demand one. Perhaps local LE aren't being trained enough in the procedures for handling a possible missing person?:waitasec:

 

[Marilynilpa]

:bump:

Keeping Kathleen in mind today.

 

[Eileen730]

Looking for new news, nothing.... but in reading old items I was struck by this
"[The officer] felt under the circumstances that it was not at that point a missing persons [case]," Haley's mother said. A second call to police from Haley's family and another officer looking into the case classified it as a missing persons case."
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/newport_news/police-say-missing-woman-is-endangered-

Seems this should have a slam-dunk that something bad took place if only the time was taken to check her residence a bit.

Well Did the first officer go to her apartment or just take the call?
I do know they go knock on the door but cant go in without a warrant right?




As i read it the first one took the call her apt had not been searched.

They knock and leave a note please call officer so and so.

 

[longtallcold]

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/newport_news/sketch-released-in-missing-woman-case

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/newport_news/court-docs-reveal-blood-possibly-found

He has one of those faces that made me think I've seen him before but then I realized he looks like Mike Baker, a guest host on Red Eye on foxnews at time

Travis Forbes IS in jail, right? :what: Any relatives, because man I knew that mug looked familiar!

 

[Marilynilpa]

Bumping for Kathleen.

 

[brilliant]

Is it bothering anyone else that this brother in law had so much free access and found all this evidence on Sept 4, but managed to not convince KH's mother to call law enforcement until Sept 7? He's got keys and knows her routines, but doesn't know who she's cavorting with and didn't raise alarms for several days? Seriously, I walk into a family member's house and a cookie jar is broken and they're MIA, I'm calling 911. This guy found stains on the wall, patch o'rug, bed, bike, and computer missing. Car messed with, identified a foul odor in the dumpster, and cleaning supplies and used gloves all over but waited a few days to notify authorities? I call foul right there. I'm checking Georgia for similar crimes where he lives(d) there.

More interesting is that the "suspect" was spotted there as late as Sept 4. Which means he spent days cleaning and concealing the crime. The brother in law showing up may have interrupted his plans to continue the clean up. Had cops been able to canvass the same day, better witnesses could have been found. In reality, it is a minor miracle that ANYONE spoke to police in that area. Check the violent crimes there, people get shot in broad daylight in crowds and no one sees nothin'. Keep that in mind when criticizing the authorities. They have to be nearly clairvoyant in this area because there is no community interest. A knock on the door and a canvas is standard protocol, but if no one answers their doors, nothing can be done. Ask if the family was equally as tight lipped. I can tell you, they're sure as heck not lighting up the newspapers with appeals for her return. In fact brother and sister's facebook pages are barely resembling that of grieving and scared family. We have a couple kids that went missing in 1989 here (Newport News). Their siblings and parent's pages still feature weekly appeals and they still make the news as often as possible.

Another question is, if the brother in law saw all this, and told the police all of this from the start I call BS on them dismissing it. I think we're going to find out that he is not on the up and up and tried to stay out of it and that's why the police couldn't pursue the investigation the first time. At this point, I'm also willing to bet money that whatever went down will come back to him.

 

[MagnoliaMom]

The brother-in-law looks nothing like the sketch though.

We have heard nothing definitive about where she worked, when she last worked, and nothing from co-workers or bar patrons (if that is indeed where she worked). Why has no one spoken out?

There is bound to be dna evidence in her apartment even with the clean up attempt. Did they collect evidence or process the apartment?

 

[brilliant]

Here's a pop quiz... ask the nearest person to describe the person that rung up their groceries five to seven days ago. Can you? Witness accounts are only as good as the witnesses. Without prep time or reason, there's no real reason for normal people to catalog that info. There's zero guarantee that the sketch is even remotely accurate.

Her work has been remarkably off the front pages. Her friends have been mum on her work and are even going further to insist that her privacy is important and must be protected for when she gets home...

The cops have "processed" her place. It's protocol. Unfortunately, like most violent crimes in the area and missing persons in the region, the hands of law enforcement are tied by laws and uncooperative witnesses. They're not psychic, and even if they were, it's not admissible. Until the culture in this place changes dramatically, her's and dozens more violent crimes will go unsolved.

 

[Lera213]

Is it bothering anyone else that this brother in law had so much free access and found all this evidence on Sept 4, but managed to not convince KH's mother to call law enforcement until Sept 7? He's got keys and knows her routines, but doesn't know who she's cavorting with and didn't raise alarms for several days? Seriously, I walk into a family member's house and a cookie jar is broken and they're MIA, I'm calling 911. This guy found stains on the wall, patch o'rug, bed, bike, and computer missing. Car messed with, identified a foul odor in the dumpster, and cleaning supplies and used gloves all over but waited a few days to notify authorities? I call foul right there. I'm checking Georgia for similar crimes where he lives(d) there.

More interesting is that the "suspect" was spotted there as late as Sept 4. Which means he spent days cleaning and concealing the crime. The brother in law showing up may have interrupted his plans to continue the clean up. Had cops been able to canvass the same day, better witnesses could have been found. In reality, it is a minor miracle that ANYONE spoke to police in that area. Check the violent crimes there, people get shot in broad daylight in crowds and no one sees nothin'. Keep that in mind when criticizing the authorities. They have to be nearly clairvoyant in this area because there is no community interest. A knock on the door and a canvas is standard protocol, but if no one answers their doors, nothing can be done. Ask if the family was equally as tight lipped. I can tell you, they're sure as heck not lighting up the newspapers with appeals for her return. In fact brother and sister's facebook pages are barely resembling that of grieving and scared family. We have a couple kids that went missing in 1989 here (Newport News). Their siblings and parent's pages still feature weekly appeals and they still make the news as often as possible.

Another question is, if the brother in law saw all this, and told the police all of this from the start I call BS on them dismissing it. I think we're going to find out that he is not on the up and up and tried to stay out of it and that's why the police couldn't pursue the investigation the first time. At this point, I'm also willing to bet money that whatever went down will come back to him.

You make some very valid points. My only explanation would be maybe he was on drugs. I know that is really far out there but the only dang reason I can come up with.

 

[Marilynilpa]

:bump:

Keeping Kathleen in mind today.

Another bump, and another day without news of Kathleen.:sigh:

 

[CHERIE.T]

This case like so many others is mind blowing, IMO.
There is nothing new reported and locals from close by towns arent even discussing Kathleen's disappearance. I'm truly befuddled. IMO

 

[Marilynilpa]

This case like so many others is mind blowing, IMO.
There is nothing new reported and locals from close by towns arent even discussing Kathleen's disappearance. I'm truly befuddled. IMO

I'm befuddled as well. I wish there would be a vigil or organized event of some type to raise awareness of Kathleen's disappearance.

 

[OldSteve]

I'm befuddled as well. I wish there would be a vigil or organized event of some type to raise awareness of Kathleen's disappearance.

Yes, I agree and it is a curious thing why some cases get so much more media and public attention.

 

[brilliant]

Yes, I agree and it is a curious thing why some cases get so much more media and public attention.

It starts with having someone that is sympathetic to report on and having people that are willing to go on camera. Clearly the family isn't going to and her friends are already posting thier good byes on social media and moving on. The media can only report stuff that people care about. Very few people care about a nearly forty year old bartender/waitress/gentleman's club employee. Around here, if you live in that area, you're just a statistic wating for a toe tag. It's sad and it shouldn't be like that, but it is.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Bumping for Kathleen.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Bumping for Kathleen.

Another bump for Kathleen. I wish there would be some news.

 

[ktgirl]

:bump: