Vatican calling for Boycott of Da Vinci Code

  • #401
cappuccina said:
...trouble with Catholic kids at our public school telling the other kids that they'll burn in hell because they're not Catholic, while the kids are on recess and the teacher can't hear what's going on...
Kids are kids. If that's the worst thing they are saying to cause trouble, then you're doing OK, lol. Kids of all faiths act up. Obviously those kids are not teaching Church doctrine when they say that. Just being brats. Much like some posters on here are, sometimes! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
 
  • #402
Yes, thank you, DK....even though I am almost old enough to be your mom, I can also be a brat at times :rolleyes: !

(...also, some older kids up the block had a mock birthday party for Satan on 06/06/06, which actually bothered me...)
 
  • #403
cappuccina said:
Yes, thank you, DK....even though I am almost old enough to be your mom, I can also be a brat at times :rolleyes: !

(...also, some older kids up the block had a mock birthday party for Satan on 06/06/06, which actually bothered me...)
Ugh, the b-day party thing sickens me greatly. :sick: :sick: :sick:
 
  • #404
cinsbythesea said:
In my way early days growing up with devout Catholic parents and going to church every Sunday and all the Holy Days - they taught us that WE were the ones that would go to heaven because WE were the ones going to the right faith. It bothered me from an early age that my very nice friends who were not Catholic wouldn't have a chance to get into heaven because they didn't attend the right church. That the "Church thinks highly enough of other Christian churches that if you have been baptized in one they will NOT repabtize you if you convert" makes me realize why I gave up on Catholicism. Their way all the way or no way. Which lead me to give up on the faith entirely by the time my second child was born. My very Catholic father decided he could baptize her in his kitchen sink and prevent her from spending an eternity in limbo or purgatory.
Thank you.

Similar experiences with Catholics and Christians early on. Never made sense to me.

Also not encouraged to ask questions. All these years now and still the same experience with Catholics: "Don't question us."

That is why that faith community turned me off.

Now, in my current tradition, I ask all the questions I want.

I'm encouraged to have a mind, think for myself and ask every question I can concieve of to resolve every doubt until my mind and heart are full, in complete satisfaction and peace.
 
  • #405
windovervocalcords said:
Thank you.

Similar experiences with Catholics and Christians early on. Never made sense to me.

Also not encouraged to ask questions. All these years now and still the same experience with Catholics: "Don't question us."

That is why that faith community turned me off.

Now, in my current tradition, I ask all the questions I want.

I'm encouraged to have a mind, think for myself and ask every question I can concieve of to resolve every doubt until my mind and heart are full, in complete satisfaction and peace.
So do we. I went thru 8 months of RCIA class asking nothing but questions, and still do. I am sure my fellow Catholics have had similar experiences. I am sorry you faced what you faced.
 
  • #406
The only thing I hated about the early church was i couldn't understand a dang thing they were saying..it was all in Latin! how was a I supposed to be moved when I didn't know what they were saying?
Of course we should all ask questions of religion and about religion. I am not afraid to nor do I agree with everything in the Catholic Church.
I never felt that I had to do it one way without injecting my own thoughts into the process. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.:D I was never once told I would burn in hell. Even when I ditched Catechism.
I attended Catechism every Sunday and hated every minute of it. All my friends were Jewish and I had nothing that I could relate to them with. I still received all my Sacraments but my heart wasn't in it.
Consequently, when my children were born I did not baptize them nor did I take them to church.

When my kids were about oh say between say 9 and 15, they asked me why I never took them to church. I didn't have an answer. So I started taking them. They all asked why they weren't baptized or hadn't reveived any of the other scaraments. I didn't have an answer, so i enrolled them all in Catechism (RCIA) and they were baptized, received First Communion and were confirmed at the most awesome Easter Vigil Mass. It was so moving because they chose it.
When my kids chose Catholicism it brought me back to the church. It was really neat to see them choose to be baptized as opposed to being baptized as babies. It had so much meaning it was powerful. Brought me back to the church and I am glad it did.;)
If they leave this Church and go to another, i have no problem with that as long as they keep religion in their life. Any religion provides the framework we need to add real purpose and meaning to our lives.
 
  • #407
JBean said:
The only thing I hated about the early church was i couldn't understand a dang thing they were saying..it was all in Latin! how was a I supposed to be moved when I didn't know what they were saying?
Of course we should all ask questions of religion and about religion. I am not afraid to nor do I agree with everything in the Catholic Church.
I never felt that I had to do it one way without injecting my own thoughts into the process. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.:D I was never once told I would burn in hell. Even when I ditched Catechism.
I attended Catechism every Sunday and hated every minute of it. All my friends were Jewish and I had nothing that I could relate to them with. I still received all my Sacraments but my heart wasn't in it.
Consequently, when my children were born I did not baptize them nor did I take them to church.

When my kids were about oh say between say 9 and 15, they asked me why I never took them to church. I didn't have an answer. So I started taking them. They all asked why they weren't baptized or hadn't reveived any of the other scaraments. I didn't have an answer, so i enrolled them all in Catechism (RCIA) and they were baptized, received First Communion and were confirmed at the most awesome Easter Vigil Mass. It was so moving because they chose it.
When my kids chose Catholicism it brought me back to the church. It was really neat to see them choose to be baptized as opposed to being baptized as babies. It had so much meaning it was powerful. Brought me back to the church and I am glad it did.;)
If they leave this Church and go to another, i have no problem with that as long as they keep religion in their life. Any religion provides the framework we need to add real purpose and meaning to our lives.
The Latin Mass was before my time, and I don't see why they did it, but I actually know of people wish they kept it in Latin! It was so beautiful and profound I guess they truly enjoyed it!

Welcome back to the Church, by the way! :blowkiss:
 
  • #408
Dark Knight said:
The Latin Mass was before my time, and I don't see why they did it, but I actually know of people wish they kept it in Latin! It was so beautiful and profound I guess they truly enjoyed it!

Welcome back to the Church, by the way! :blowkiss:
I was a little girl! Not profound Oy! Now when they started the guitar masses that really got my attention. We LOVED that.
Oh I've been back for awhile now:D Thanks :blowkiss:
 
  • #409
JBean said:
I was a little girl! Not profound Oy! Now when they started the guitar masses that really got my attention. We LOVED that.
Oh I've been back for awhile now:D Thanks :blowkiss:
What the heck is a guitar mass? LOL! I need to tell my priest about this! :cool:
 
  • #410
Dark Knight said:
What the heck is a guitar mass? LOL! I need to tell my priest about this! :cool:
When they started bringing guitars and sang in Mass.

The latin mass was really difficult for the kids. We didn't know what the heck was going on . It was just boring and we dreaded Mass. But we went every Sunday no matter what, all 8 kids. Sometime,we would get to Mass and not have anything to cover our heads,( back when we had to cover our heads) so we would sneak into the bathroom and put squares of TP on our heads with bobbi pins. LOL!
 
  • #411
JBean said:
When they started bringing guitars and sang in Mass.

The latin mass was really difficult for the kids. We didn't know what the heck was going on . It was just boring and we dreaded Mass. But we went every Sunday no matter what, all 8 kids. Sometime,we would get to Mass and not have anything to cover our heads,( back when we had to cover our heads) so we would sneak into the bathroom and put squares of TP on our heads with bobbi pins. LOL!
Oh, LOL! Yes we sing and have musical instruments now, LOL! Didn't know they didn't before. Nor did I know about covering your heads. (TP??????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!)I was born post-Vatican 2 and didn't convert until 1994, so I am not familiar with the Latin Mass very much.
 
  • #412
Dark Knight said:
And I am guessing you went to church pre-Vatican 2, as they no longer teach that others won't go to heaven. They even teach that Jews share in salvation thru their own faith. So nowadays it isn't even close to what you described.
The Catholic Church never taught that others would not go to heaven.
Vatican II only clarified the position the Church has always held, that many non-Catholics will be saved through the compassion of Jesus and his Church. Jesus knows the heart of everyone and he knows the difference between a hardened mean spirit against the Church and an honest searching seeker of the truth.
 
  • #413
Dark Knight said:
Oh, LOL! Yes we sing and have musical instruments now, LOL! Didn't know they didn't before. Nor did I know about covering your heads. (TP??????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!)I was born post-Vatican 2 and didn't convert until 1994, so I am not familiar with the Latin Mass very much.
Yes, the girls had to have a cover on their heads. Usually it would be a little doily. But when we forgot or were in a hurry trying to get 8 kids out the door, a single square of toilet paper worked just as well. And oh so fashionable.:p
 
  • #414
There used to be a drive in mass. If you can believe that. All the families with lots of kids went.

The priest was in a teeny hut in front of the screen and folks listened on speakers in their cars and went all the way up front to in front of the teeny hut for communion!
 
  • #415
windovervocalcords said:
There used to be a drive in mass. If you can believe that. All the families with lots of kids went.

The priest was in a teeny hut in front of the screen and folks listened on speakers in their cars and went all the way up front to in front of the teeny hut for communion!
OMG..this would have been great with my dad and all 8 kids.What a mad house that would have been lol!
 
  • #416
Maral said:
The Catholic Church never taught that others would not go to heaven.
Vatican II only clarified the position the Church has always held, that many non-Catholics will be saved through the compassion of Jesus and his Church. Jesus knows the heart of everyone and he knows the difference between a hardened mean spirit against the Church and an honest searching seeker of the truth.
I've being Catholic all my life and I never heard that either. If a person is not aware of Jesus, how can they be judged on that?
 
  • #417
windovervocalcords said:
There used to be a drive in mass. If you can believe that. All the families with lots of kids went.

The priest was in a teeny hut in front of the screen and folks listened on speakers in their cars and went all the way up front to in front of the teeny hut for communion!
LOL! The church that preceded the Crystal Cathedral, run by Dr. Robert Schuller, was a drive-in service, as well. And we have had drive in Protestant services locally around here, in the past. An interesting concept, to say the least, lol. But I don't think any of them tried communion, though!
 
  • #418
My husband and son saw the movie last night and both said it was very good. My son, who will turn 13-years old this week commented that he was the only one under 40 in the theater. LOL He mentioned something about them filming a "geratol" commercial or something to that effect before my husband and I both pelted him with grapes, so he had to shut up. LOL
 
  • #419
Dark Knight said:
LOL! The church that preceded the Crystal Cathedral, run by Dr. Robert Schuller, was a drive-in service, as well. And we have had drive in Protestant services locally around here, in the past. An interesting concept, to say the least, lol. But I don't think any of them tried communion, though!
Oh I didn't know that.
Crystal Cathedral is something else.
The younger Dr.Schuller is part of our youth baseball organization with his kids.
 
  • #420
..."Dr." Schuller, and Jack & "Dr." Rexella Van Impe... :angel:

(OK, I have a headache now thinking about the names I just typed... :eek: )
 

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