Vatican calling for Boycott of Da Vinci Code

[narlacat]

This reminds me of another Seinfeld episode Ellen LOL
How dare Jerry 'make out'through Schindlers list

 

[cappuccina]

...I care a lot when a religious group attempts to censor a mainstream fictional work they do not agree with...

 

[ellen13]

This reminds me of another Seinfeld episode Ellen LOL
How dare Jerry fall asleep through Schindlers list

LOL! Have to ask hubby about that one. I think I missed some episodes because I had a night class on Seinfeld night for a semester-probably missed the best ones!!
Kind of reminds me of when I fell asleep at "Cats" on Broadway in NYC and only had friends wake me up for the infamous song-Memories-saw it just before it left after 17 years-LOL! My friend was so mad at me for sleeping through it but it just didn't do it for me. Now Phantom of the Opera, I could watch 100 times!!
But, after talking with you, I would love to see The Lion King on stage!!! LOL!!

 

[narlacat]

I swear Ellen, what haven't you done!!

Imagine falling asleep through a broadway play
I'll probably never get the chance to see a Broadway play let alone fall asleep through it LOL
That reminded me of my girlfriend falling asleep on this god awful theme park ride we both went on...I will have to tell you about that another time

LOL about the Lion King!

Ok sorry folks, back to the Da Vinci Code chit chat

 

[ellen13]

Finally found a link for what I've been trying to say for quite some time now. Maybe some of you might appreciate this:

http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2006/06/09/410318.html

 

[ellen13]

I swear Ellen, what haven't you done!!

Imagine falling asleep through a broadway play
I'll probably never get the chance to see a Broadway play let alone fall asleep through it LOL
That reminded me of my girlfriend falling asleep on this god awful theme park ride we both went on...I will have to tell you about that another time

LOL about the Lion King!

Ok sorry folks, back to the Da Vinci Code chit chat

Trust me Narla, you would have fallen asleep at Cats! Even though it was on broadway, no one can figure out how it lasted that long. People only grunged through the show to hear the damn song!! LOL! You didn't miss a thing LOL!!
Can't believe your friend fell asleep on a ride. Was it slow moving??? Was it a kiddie ride?LOL! sounds kind of funny!
bfn,
ellen

 

[ellen13]

Actually a good many Jews and Jewish groups, as well as many others, DID call for a boycott of The Passion.

Thanks--I have 20/20 vision and can read without the bold letters but thank you. Now, come to think of it, I'm glad the Jews spoke out because the
Passion was the most controversial movie ever made. However, they didn't have something as powerful as the Vatican behind them.

 

[LuvChocolate]

He was The head of The Catholic Church and millions of Catholics, which meant there were people from all over the world at his funeral. Leaders from all over the world were there. When any Leader in a Country dies and other leaders are there the services go on for at least a week. So what was the difference? Why was it bizarre? They were not praying that they hoped he had a great journey. That's bizarre.

Hi Tis, That's over a Billion Catholics btw. Pope JPII was so loved.

Here is an excellent explanation on the pope's infallibility and much more for those interested.
http://olrl.org/apologetics/cathansr.shtml#ans7
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The doctrine of Papal Infallibility does not mean the Pope is always right in all his personal teachings. Catholics are quite aware that, despite his great learning, the Pope is very much a human being and therefore liable to commit human error. On some subjects, like sports and manufacturing, his judgment is liable to be very faulty. The doctrine simply means that the Pope is divinely protected from error when, acting in his official capacity as chief shepherd of the Catholic fold, he promulgates a decision which is binding on the conscience of all Catholics throughout the world. In other words, his infallibility is limited to his specialty– the Faith of Jesus Christ.
In order for the Pope to be infallible on a particular statement, however, four conditions must apply: 1) he must be speaking ex cathedra . . . that is, "from the Chair" of Peter, or in other words, officially, as head of the entire Church; 2) the decision must be for the whole Church; 3) it must be on a matter of faith or morals; 4) the Pope must have the intention of making a final decision on a teaching of faith or morals, so that it is to be held by all the faithful. It must be interpretive, not originative; the Pope has no authority to originate new doctrine. He is not the author of revelation – only its guardian and expounder. He has no power to distort a single word of Scripture, or change one iota of divine tradition. His infallibility is limited strictly to the province of doctrinal interpretation, and it is used quite rarely. It is used in order to clarify, to "define," some point of the ancient Christian tradition. It is the infallibility of which Christ spoke when He said to Peter, the first Pope: "I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven." (Matt. 16:19). Certainly Christ would not have admonished His followers to "hear the church" (Matt. 18:17) without somehow making certain that what they heard was the truth – without somehow making the teaching magisterium of His Church infallible.

For a complete understanding of the Pope's infallibility, however, one more thing should be known: His ex cathedra decisions are not the result of his own private deliberations. They are the result of many years – sometimes hundreds of years – of consultation with the other bishops and theologians of the Church. He is, in effect, voicing the belief of the whole Church. His infallibility is not his own private endowment, but rather an endowment of the entire Mystical Body of Christ. Indeed, the Pope's hands are tied with regard to the changing of Christian doctrine. No Pope has ever used his infallibility to change, add, or subtract any Christian teaching; this is because Our Lord promised to be with His Church until the end of the world. (Matt. 28:20). Protestant denominations, on the other hand, feel free to change their doctrines. For example, all Protestant denominations once taught that contraception was gravely sinful; but since 1930, when the Church of England's Lambeth Conference decided contraception was no longer a sin, virtually all Protestant ministers in the world have accepted this human decision and changed their teaching.

 

[Dark Knight]

...I care a lot when a religious group attempts to censor a mainstream fictional work they do not agree with...

Ok, you drew me back in with your incessant crusade against the Church. Please post evidence that a religious group literally censored a mainstream fictional work. A boycott is not censoring, since no one is threatened with excommunication for reading or watching it, so please provide proof of actual censorship. Ultimately, if you aren't Catholic, it isn't your concern, since I am gonna bet you won't find any literal censorship attempts, only suggestions.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Ok, you drew me back in with your incessant crusade against the Church. Please post evidence that a religious group literally censored a mainstream fictional work. A boycott is not censoring, since no one is threatened with excommunication for reading or watching it, so please provide proof of actual censorship. Ultimately, if you aren't Catholic, it isn't your concern, since I am gonna bet you won't find any literal censorship attempts, only suggestions.

Here you go:

The religion that once put the fear of God into Hollywood now has less influence over motion picture content than People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
As noted above, it was not always so. For decades American Catholics exerted the moral equivalent of final cut over Hollywood cinema.

What the Catholics wanted, and got, was a censorship regime that ceded dominion of Hollywood cinema to Catholic theology for the next 30 years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/19/AR2006051901530.html

 

[TisHerself]

Well You just proved Dark Knights point, there was no censorship for The Da Vinci Code.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Well You just proved Dark Knights point, there was no censorship for The Da Vinci Code.

Its being censored in many countries. Google and you will see for yourself.

American Catholics are connected to Catholics in other countries aren't they?

Catholics in America have lost their power to censor the film industry.

In the not so distant past, they were a force to be reckoned with, according to the article I just read.

 

[Dark Knight]

Its being censored in many countries. Google and you will see for yourself.

American Catholics are connected to Catholics in other countries aren't they?

Catholics in America have lost their power to censor the film industry.

In the not so distant past, they were a force to be reckoned with, according to the article I just read.

Yes, in Muslim and Communist countries, primarily, lol.

 

[TisHerself]

Yes, in Muslim and Communist countries, primarily, lol.

This is just way too funny, it is like :banghead: it is like if you say it is so, it will make it so.:doh: The Catholic Chuirch did not censor the movie, and lack of any proof showing that they did (which there is none). Does not matter there are those who will still say that they did.

 

[narlacat]

Did I miss something?
Not showing the movie is censoring it, isn't it lol

 

[Dark Knight]

Did I miss something?
Not showing the movie is censoring it, isn't it lol

Yup, you've missed quite a bit, it seems. :crazy:

 

[TisHerself]

Catholics in America have lost their power to censor the film industry.

In the not so distant past, they were a force to be reckoned with, according to the article I just read.

What does this have to do with The Da Vinci Code?

And you can't have it both ways, if they have lost their power to censor then how could they censor it?


In the past they were a force to be reckoned with..Yes and your point is?????
If they were a force to be reckoned with in the past, then why are you even concerned with them now?
I mean what is the problem according to that they are no big deal now so why do you even care what they think or say about this movie or anything for that matter?

 

[Dark Knight]

What does this have to do with The Da Vinci Code?

And you can't have it both ways, if they have lost their power to censor then how could they censor it?


In the past they were a force to be reckoned with..Yes and your point is?????
If they were a force to be reckoned with in the past, then why are you even concerned with them now?
I mean what is the problem according to that they are no big deal now so why do you even care what they think or say about this movie or anything for that matter?

Amen, sister!

 

[narlacat]

Yup, you've missed quite a bit, it seems. :crazy:

Sure.
There's alot I miss

 

[narlacat]

First The Pope has NEVER not when he was a Cardinal and not now EVER comdemned the Harry Potter books. That is an out and out lie, and I might add I stongly resent you lying about The head of my Church who I love and have tremendous respect for..... Another out and out lie writing a letter to his friend calling himself Pope Benedict two years belfore he was elected Pope.
I would like proof of that.... If you knew anything about The Catholic Religion you would know how absolutely absurd that was to even try to get that lie across. I actually laughed when I first read that, that someone would even post that. Yes he was in the Hitler Youth he had no choice he was a young German and was forced into it.... But that is easy for someone who was not living in Nazi Germany during the second WW to judge a kid right?
Did you happen to just read about his visit to The Nazi concentration camps and how difficult it was for him being a German? No I don't suppose you did you would be way to busy judgeing him.
What modern office of The Inquisition are speaking about? Are their still Spaniards running around? Pope Benedict has nothing to do with The Spanish Inquisition... Whatever your hatred is with The Catholic Church you need to get over it it ain't hurting anyone but you.

What does any of this have to do with the Da Vinci Code