VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Retrial Day 43

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  • #661
Perhaps she needs the attorneys to be ready to argue a legal point and is giving them 1 hr to look up authority on the issue.

Jodi's family is not there. Could she have had a fit in the back because enough time was not allowed for her Mom to get there?
 
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From Erickson:
Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision · 2m2 minutes ago

My sources tell me the #JodiArias jury is divided. Hopefully that's not the case. Stay tuned. #VerdictWatch

:thinking: Is Erickson "friends" with Kiefer ?

:gaah:

I was wondering where MK and his super defense snooping was today.
 
  • #664
If Jodi wasn't present and only attorneys were then the victims family cannot attend.

Tr alexander family can attend anything when Jodi is in attendance.

They can attend any criminal proceeding where the defendant has the right to be present, not if she is.
 
  • #665
From Erickson:
Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision · 2m2 minutes ago

My sources tell me the #JodiArias jury is divided. Hopefully that's not the case. Stay tuned. #VerdictWatch

:thinking: Is Erickson "friends" with Kiefer ?

:gaah:

So then why can't the judge just handle it now? Is she not going to give the Allen Charge?
 
  • #666
Yes....all I want to know is if it is even a possibility. Not just ones opinion, but is it possible no matter how remote.

I doubt it too, but remember during the 1st trial they said it was a "jury question" when it was indeed the verdict
 
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I hope when this trial is over with they manage to find a nice quiet little traffic court for Judge Stephens to preside over.

:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: LOL !
 
  • #669
AZL, lots of predictions of this being the verdict. Could they be discussing how to make this happen? Is it at all possible that this is not a jury question and is, in fact, the verdict?

It's not normal activity for a verdict, but there has been a lot of abnormal activity in this case, so I suppose it's possible.

Oh AZL, since you're here - once this is over, verdict, hung, whatever, will all the sealed minute entries be unsealed and appear on the Court's minute website in fairly short order? Or at least is that how it's supposed to work?

Supposedly, yes.

Are there any other grounds for being let off/kicked off besides refusing to deliberate? For example- what if this is about the juror who asked to be released days ago and was refused. She's given it her best try but realizes she just can't return a DP verdict, even of that's what she thinks is the right thing to do, and no amount of time is going to make it possible for her. Does that count as refusal to deliberate? Can a juror be released for not being able to cope emotionally?

And if that is what's going on, how problematic is it that the juror asked for a specific replacement?

If a juror realized he or she was not, in fact, "death-qualified" after all, he/she could be replaced and deliberations could start over with an alternate. The fact that the juror requesting to leave asked for a specific alternate would be no big deal--that part of the request would just be denied.

If a juror refused to deliberate would that be contempt?

No.
 
  • #670
Jodi's family is not there. Could she have had a fit in the back because enough time was not allowed for her Mom to get there?

I thought JSS mentioned a "juror issue."
 
  • #671
So then why can't the judge just handle it now? Is she not going to give the Allen Charge?

... and divided is not necessarily hung, if they have not finished deliberating.
 
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Wow. What is the highest that's ever been on the same thread?
 
  • #673
This is so disheartening AZLawyer :(

I know LadyJustice is supposed to be blind, but does JSS really think she can take Her (and all Courtroom procedure, and us for that matter) for total fools? :moo:

:thud:


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This is the same judge who thought it was completely ok to let CMJA testify in secrecy. :facepalm:
 
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Are there any other grounds for being let off/kicked off besides refusing to deliberate? For example- what if this is about the juror who asked to be released days ago and was refused. She's given it her best try but realizes she just can't return a DP verdict, even of that's what she thinks is the right thing to do, and no amount of time is going to make it possible for her. Does that count as refusal to deliberate? Can a juror be released for not being able to cope emotionally?

And if that is what's going on, how problematic is it that the juror asked for a specific replacement?

Along those lines...what if the juror says she can't impose DP; thought she could at time of voir dire but now realizes she just can't even though DP is (per the instructions they were given) the only sentence that can rightfully happen. ???

ETA:

Nevermind...looks like AZL answered this question already. Thanks AZL.

I think this could actually be what is going on.
 
  • #676
How would a "source" know?

Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision · 2m2 minutes ago
My #JodiArias trial sources have never been wrong on facts. Ever. But re: the jury... I believe it's conjecture not necessarily fact.
 
  • #677
NO you should not. Trust me having spent 40 years trying to quit. Friends don't let friends stink up their worlds. :)

Def not! Don't start. I just finally quit (after the 100th time) after smoking about 35 years. Its been almost 10 mos this time. But it has been tempting the last few weeks. Plus seeing my butt grow exponentially.

Although, I did go buy a pack a couple of weeks ago after taking sleeping meds. So now I had to give those up too. Dangerous to drive in a coma..........
 
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I was wondering where MK and his super defense snooping was today.


:seeya: I got his twitter up and nothing from Kiefer today ... zippo !

Oh how I wish he would get on twitter and let us know what's going on !
 
  • #680
Wouldn't the judge send them back again? If this is the case, why take a break just to send them back in to try again?

I'm not really sure what's going on. Whatever it is, it doesn't look good.

JMHO
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