Victim: Megan Waterman, 22, missing June 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*

[Mountain_Kat]

You rock, K! I hadn't seen any of those articles before.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

There is so much interesting stuff in this article, I don't even know where to begin.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/ann...mans-kin_2011-12-12.html?pageType=mobile&id=1

Cruz declined repeated requests for interviews. His lawyer, Robert Napolitano, told The Portland Press Herald that he has no information that his client was involved in prostitution.

Napolitano said he met Waterman a week before she disappeared. She came with Cruz to his office. They said they were headed to New York.


So, Waterman and Cruz saw a lawyer, one week prior to her disappearance, supposedly to check out NY state laws regarding prostitution?

Had they not worked in NY before? I find this information puzzling. One of Megan's escort ads posted for Long Island, said she was back in town. So, if she HAD worked the area before, why the sudden interest in checking out NY state law?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Wait...hadn't Megan been arrested not too long before she went missing? Am I recalling that correctly, or am I way out in left field here? Can anyone confirm?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Another interesting article:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/unsolved/long-island-ripper/megan-waterman.html

On October 17, 2009, she'd made arrangements to meet a Craigslist client at the Extended Stay Hotel in Bethpage, Long Island—but that supposed client had been a Nassau County undercover detective, and when she had agreed to perform a sexual act for money, he had arrested her. She had been arrested two other times in 2009: for theft and for the sale and use of drug paraphernalia.

 

[deedee21]

This creep really wanted to know the laws pertaining to pimps.

 

[Justiceforever]

Wait...hadn't Megan been arrested not too long before she went missing? Am I recalling that correctly, or am I way out in left field here? Can anyone confirm?

Yes for prostitution, theft and drug paraphenalia

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/unsolved/long-island-ripper/megan-waterman.html

 

[Mountain_Kat]

This creep really wanted to know the laws pertaining to pimps.

Yeah, but why check into it one week before Megan went missing? She had already been working LI for close to a year, if not longer. :waitasec:

 

[deedee21]

Yeah, but why check into it one week before Megan went missing? She had already been working LI for close to a year, if not longer. :waitasec:

She went to LI from out of state and it may have been around this time for one reason or another that he wondered about the legal ramifications concerning himself.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

She went to LI from out of state and it may have been around this time for one reason or another that he wondered about the legal ramifications concerning himself.

Yes, but the question is: why? He's the one who got Megan into prostitution in 2009. He's the one who brought her to NY in 2009. And he brought her there regularly (every few weeks) for a year. What suddenly prompted him to investigate NY laws, through a lawyer, one week before Megan turns up missing? Why not investigate the laws when he first brought Megan to NY from Maine?

Something HAD to have triggered this visit to the lawyer. Lawyers don't work for free.

So...had he been recently arrested? Had she been recently arrested? Had another girl who worked for him (maybe Jasmine?) been recently arrested? Was someone awaiting a court date? Was he worried about a snitch, or a set up? What?

 

[OnTheCase27]

Yes, but the question is: why? He's the one who got Megan into prostitution in 2009. He's the one who brought her to NY in 2009. And he brought her there regularly (every few weeks) for a year. What suddenly prompted him to investigate NY laws, through a lawyer, one week before Megan turns up missing? Why not investigate the laws when he first brought Megan to NY from Maine?

Something HAD to have triggered this visit to the lawyer. Lawyers don't work for free.

So...had he been recently arrested? Had she been recently arrested? Had another girl who worked for him (maybe Jasmine?) been recently arrested? Was someone awaiting a court date? Was he worried about a snitch, or a set up? What?

Yes she had been arrested in October 2009. It was fairly close to when they left again for NY so he was probably concerned for himself and not Megan. That's probably why he did not supervise any of the meetings out of fear of being arrested.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Yes she had been arrested in October 2009. It was fairly close to when they left again for NY so he was probably concerned for himself and not Megan. That's probably why he did not supervise any of the meetings out of fear of being arrested.

Maybe we're getting our wires crossed here. Megan and Cruz went to see this lawyer 1 week prior to the date Megan went missing. That would make it the end of May 2010...8 months after her arrest in October of 2009. According to this article (and other msm reports), Megan and Cruz came to NY every few months.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/unsolved/long-island-ripper/megan-waterman.html

In addition to the October 17, 2009 arrest, Megan was arrested 2 other times during that year (although, the article doesn't state where she was arrested), once for theft and once for drug paraphernalia. The last 2 arrests have nothing to do with prostitution, so these obviously weren't what prompted Cruz to look into NY state prostitution laws in May of 2010. If Megan's prostitution arrest on October 17, 2009 is what prompted him to seek counsel, why the hell would he wait 8 months to do so? Wouldn't that arrest already have gone to court and been resolved?

 

[OnTheCase27]

Maybe we're getting our wires crossed here. Megan and Cruz went to see this lawyer 1 week prior to the date Megan went missing. That would make it the end of May 2010...8 months after her arrest in October of 2009. According to this article (and other msm reports), Megan and Cruz came to NY every few months.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/unsolved/long-island-ripper/megan-waterman.html

In addition to the October 17, 2009 arrest, Megan was arrested 2 other times during that year (although, the article doesn't state where she was arrested), once for theft and once for drug paraphernalia. The last 2 arrests have nothing to do with prostitution, so these obviously weren't what prompted Cruz to look into NY state prostitution laws in May of 2010. If Megan's prostitution arrest on October 17, 2009 is what prompted him to seek counsel, why the hell would he wait 8 months to do so? Wouldn't that arrest already have gone to court and been resolved?

That could be exactly what prompted his curiosity. If she was given some sort of probation he could have been interested in what would happen if she was arrested again and what could happen to him if he was arrested for being her pimp.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

That could be exactly what prompted his curiosity. If she was given some sort of probation he could have been interested in what would happen if she was arrested again and what could happen to him if he was arrested for being her pimp.

"They never said a word" about prostitution, but Napolitano added, "I could certainly read between the lines." Asked later what he meant, Napolitano said he has had many clients in Maine who he believes have engaged in interstate prostitution and were interested in learning about the laws covering the crime.


http://www.pressherald.com/news/ann...mans-kin_2011-12-12.html?pageType=mobile&id=1

(Napolitano is a lawyer from Maine...just picked up on that. Duh.)

This doesn't sound to me as if the meeting pertained to a simple arrest, or a possible arrest while she was on probation (if she was on probation at all). This sounds to me like AC was concerned specifically about interstate sex trafficking. And as I'm typing this, it just now occurred to me that under the Mann Act, Megan couldn't have been charged with interstate trafficking if arrested in NY, but her pimp certainly could. So that probably explains why he dumped her off at the hotel and beat feet.

Damn...now I've lost my train of thought.:banghead: Pain pills are kicking in, so it's definitely time to get off here and go lay down.

 

[Samantha Spade]

:what: But he was only "sightseeing".

 

[NoviceSleuth]

If Megan was on probation, she would have to check with her probation officer and get permission if she needed to leave her county or state of residence (Maine).

 

[Mountain_Kat]

If Megan was on probation, she would have to check with her probation officer and get permission if she needed to leave her county or state of residence (Maine).

Good point! :doh:

 

[deedee21]

If Megan was on probation, she would have to check with her probation officer and get permission if she needed to leave her county or state of residence (Maine).

Shes not asking for permission if she plans on being back before shes due to see her PO

 

[deedee21]

Does anyone know how many of the GB4 had pending court dates?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Shes not asking for permission if she plans on being back before shes due to see her PO

Another good point. :doh:

(Stupid toothache!!!)

 

[Just K]

ALC had an outstanding warrant in Pinnelas County, FL for THEFT (or larceny)
MBB had an earlier arrest with her ex husband for THEFT (but it had long been resolved.) However it has been said that she was being evicted which is also a chargeable civil offense.
SG (not GB4) had an upcoming Federal case and it was still open at the time of her disappearance. Promoting Prostitution and something related to a drug distribution charge.
MB (Have we found any arrests for her????)
MW outstanding or recent arrest for THEFT and drug paraphenalia.