Victim - Melissa Barthelemy

[CriminalMinds]

TT, the NYS Trooper from Buffalo? If not who is TT?

Something very important, I believe Inspectorgadget posted last night or yesterday.
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This is a UG member who is said to be a misogynist black male who has a long history of abuse on working women...in particular Black working women. He uses the phrase "Half Breed." He frequents streetwalkers and Escorts and speaks of trying to get better prices by seeing there pics posted on line and then searching the outside and near the local motels in an effort to spot them between johns/jobs.

This guy, admits traveling to Florida, NJ, PA and says he is both from Washington, DC ((Barry Farms public Housing) and either Brooklyn or the Bronx. He even mentions something about Sunrise Hwy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Irv...b747fe93862d6b&bpcl=40096503&biw=1024&bih=477

Go to this link, scroll down about half way down and look at 10-05-2010.
http://mrlaureltonqueens-misogynist.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html

He speaks of how pros use the internet now but if you go to their motel/hotel you might find them. Also, he talks about being caught off guard by transsexuals a few times.

hmm..black...and a stalker..wonder who said that before? (PB)---but then again, this guys likes brutalizing BLACK women in particular--still though....

 

[CriminalMinds]

This was the original post that I got the info about text messages

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sicko_call_from_slay_gal_cell_5COah6gj6Xkk2gT4KgekcI

 

[fred&edna]

TT, the NYS Trooper from Buffalo? If not who is TT?

Something very important, I believe Inspectorgadget posted last night or yesterday.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Victim - Melissa Barthelemy

This is a UG member who is said to be a misogynist black male who has a long history of abuse on working women...in particular Black working women. He uses the phrase "Half Breed." He frequents streetwalkers and Escorts and speaks of trying to get better prices by seeing there pics posted on line and then searching the outside and near the local motels in an effort to spot them between johns/jobs.

This guy, admits traveling to Florida, NJ, PA and says he is both from Washington, DC ((Barry Farms public Housing) and either Brooklyn or the Bronx. He even mentions something about Sunrise Hwy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Irv...b747fe93862d6b&bpcl=40096503&biw=1024&bih=477

Go to this link, scroll down about half way down and look at 10-05-2010.
http://mrlaureltonqueens-misogynist.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html

He speaks of how pros use the internet now but if you go to their motel/hotel you might find them. Also, he talks about being caught off guard by transsexuals a few times.

Yes, TT = Taggart. I think I am too apprehensive about actually posting any name as the post or thread may go "poof"

Also, I'm not sure exactly how (but I'm working on it) but TT has some tie to Wappinger Falls. (Didn't KW and JT have ties to this area of NY as well?!)

 

[CriminalMinds]

Yes, TT = Taggart. I think I am too apprehensive about actually posting any name as the post or thread may go "poof"

Also, I'm not sure exactly how (but I'm working on it) but TT has some tie to Wappinger Falls. (Didn't KW and JT have ties to this area of NY as well?!)

somewhere in the jungle of threads, there is some stuff on TT---daddy has some le pull, too

 

[fred&edna]

And there's a cousin who was also a state trooper who was kicked out and sentenced to prison in 1992 for cocaine trafficking. He was released in 2004

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ostitution-scandal/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[CriminalMinds]

And there's a cousin who was also a state trooper who was kicked out and sentenced to prison in 1992 for cocaine trafficking. He was released in 2004

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ostitution-scandal/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

keeping it in the family

 

[Just K]

TT pleaded guilty to "promoting" wonder if he'll serve more time than the Millionaire Madame?
He organized parties, too.
http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/19...oper-Pleads-Guilty-to-Promoting-Prostitution-

 

[CriminalMinds]

TT pleaded guilty to "promoting" wonder if he'll serve more time than the Millionaire Madame?
He organized parties, too.
http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/19...oper-Pleads-Guilty-to-Promoting-Prostitution-

they were watching him for months

 

[Peter Brendt]

hmm..black...and a stalker..wonder who said that before? (PB)---but then again, this guys likes brutalizing BLACK women in particular--still though....

Now I wonder if he shows signs of deep sitting racism elsewhere. Something about the line "it'S all whitey's fault", whatever it may is?

 

[Just K]

they were watching him for months

This article describes the parties TT coordinated/operated...mobile parties:
http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121229/CITYANDREGION/121229287/1002

 

[fred&edna]

I also have to wonder how many killers contact family members of their victims. I assume the number would be quite small.

 

[Tugela]

So we're again at the homicidal last John ... only that at least one of the last Johns was found, that police officer. And LE wouldn't tell us about others they found. And no, I won't go back to bring the articles, it's somewhere in the old threads, this discussion was led at least three times already.
And calling the bus terminal "neutral ground" works only if you entirely ignore MBB's last phone calls. Okay, she planned to stay all weekend. But her last phone call was from the bus terminal and she told friends all she wanted was going home. "Bus terminal" + "the explicitly worded wish to go home" doesn't add up to stay with an unknown client.
And with the exception of MBB, those girls were neither inexperienced nor too desperate.
So well, you can of course believe what you want. Funny thing, you even won't get jumped by TheForeigner for placing your opinion as fact. But aside of that all, the moment, you have to ignore MBB's phone call, ignore that police obviously found one of the last Johns, probably two and have to ignore, that your homicidal John hunted at least one time in Haupauge even he had no reason to leave his comfort zone in NYC to make that happen, takes a little bit the credibility from the homicidal John theory.

The problem here is that you don't know how these girls work. They are recieving calls all the time when they are working, a fraction end up being clients. They may have multiple phones, none of which are specificaly linked to them personally. LE may identify the last person to call her (who might have become a client), but the last actual client she saw may have been someone who called her even days previously. LE have no way to know for sure who her last client was, whoever it was is the killer. Unless they have access to ALL her electronic data (which is allmost certainly concealed) they are going to have a tough time figuring out her activities. This is the issue with crimes that happen in hidden sub-cultures like this. LE are not going to be able to identify regular users from phone records (they are wise to that and cover their tracks with anonymous phones), only casual johns.

I highlighted the bit you are missing. She was at the bus terminal, she expressed a wish to go home, but that doesn't mean she actually was going home at that time. That is a connection you are making with no clear evidence. More likely she was there to see a client. The client.

 

[Tugela]

IMO, its not very calculating or brilliant for a SK who theoretically lives in OB to go on to kill and dump a further two victims right down the road from its residence after the SG affair took place knowing full well sooner or later someone would come looking in the last area she was seen. Unless of course it was wanting these crimes to be exposed which I do not feel is the case.

That would mean the killer doesnt live there and probably wasn't aware of the SG incident.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

I also have to wonder how many killers contact family members of their victims. I assume the number would be quite small.

that is a really great question.
i wonder...10 percent? or 60 percent?
lets ask some criminologists....

you do mean serial killers - right? not just killers?

 

[Tugela]

you can doubt all you want, doubt away.....feel free....don't believe a thing.
just because it has not been reported in the press
does not mean evidence is missing.

how do you know there is no proof....that cph called mrs. gilbert the next morning....??? or someone SAYING it was him?

that's the iceberg of this case...isnt it.

and you saw the movie the titanic...you know what's UNDER the water, right?

That is not what mcme was saying, he/she said there is no evidence that such a call was made, which is entirely correct. The only suggestion we have that happened are claims made by the mother, but no actual evidence has been presented.

 

[Peter Brendt]

The problem here is that you don't know how these girls work. They are recieving calls all the time when they are working, a fraction end up being clients. They may have multiple phones, none of which are specificaly linked to them personally. LE may identify the last person to call her (who might have become a client), but the last actual client she saw may have been someone who called her even days previously. LE have no way to know for sure who her last client was, whoever it was is the killer. Unless they have access to ALL her electronic data (which is allmost certainly concealed) they are going to have a tough time figuring out her activities. This is the issue with crimes that happen in hidden sub-cultures like this. LE are not going to be able to identify regular users from phone records (they are wise to that and cover their tracks with anonymous phones), only casual johns.

I highlighted the bit you are missing. She was at the bus terminal, she expressed a wish to go home, but that doesn't mean she actually was going home at that time. That is a connection you are making with no clear evidence. More likely she was there to see a client. The client.

Okay, somehow, you made the twist from MBB's expressed intention to go home and the fact, that she was already at the bus terminal, to be evidence, she didn't want to go home and that her presence at the bus terminal, the logical point to go home was to meet with a John, which wasn't on her phone records (of the only phone she had with her). Sooo ... well, your logic lost me there.
And if you mean, that I don't know how those girls work, well, that I was never a pimp or frequented prostitutes because I was always able to get what I needed on the more social way ... well, I have to agree. So, if you have experience as pimp or frequently use the services of prostitutes, which your explanation seems to indicate, why don't you share your experience?
However, I know a little bit about logic. We know from DS, on which phone ALC talked to the very same client she visited later. So if that one is found and not identic with, lets say a certain trooper, who was found to be the last client of another victim, it is technically IMPOSSIBLE, one of them is LISK and uses a homicidal John strategy. You know, TWO persons without connection and all that logic stuff?

 

[Justiceforever]

hmm..black...and a stalker..wonder who said that before? (PB)---but then again, this guys likes brutalizing BLACK women in particular--still though....

Yeah thats what I was thinking. This guy fits the bill EXCEPT he is into debasing black women only it seems.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

That is not what mcme was saying, he/she said there is no evidence that such a call was made, which is entirely correct. The only suggestion we have that happened are claims made by the mother, but no actual evidence has been presented.

well....if there is evidence in any way shape or form - i'm sure it will come out in the lawsuit.

 

[CriminalMinds]

I also have to wonder how many killers contact family members of their victims. I assume the number would be quite small.

VERY small %(at least what was ever released to the public)--there are too many potential risks in that behavior---more likely to call and taunt police--even that # is small---MAILHOT from Rhode Island comes to mind

 

[Justiceforever]

:furious:

TT, the NYS Trooper from Buffalo? If not who is TT?

Something very important, I believe Inspectorgadget posted last night or yesterday.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Victim - Melissa Barthelemy

This is a UG member who is said to be a misogynist black male who has a long history of abuse on working women...in particular Black working women. He uses the phrase "Half Breed." He frequents streetwalkers and Escorts and speaks of trying to get better prices by seeing there pics posted on line and then searching the outside and near the local motels in an effort to spot them between johns/jobs.

This guy, admits traveling to Florida, NJ, PA and says he is both from Washington, DC ((Barry Farms public Housing) and either Brooklyn or the Bronx. He even mentions something about Sunrise Hwy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Irv...b747fe93862d6b&bpcl=40096503&biw=1024&bih=477

Go to this link, scroll down about half way down and look at 10-05-2010.
http://mrlaureltonqueens-misogynist.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html

He speaks of how pros use the internet now but if you go to their motel/hotel you might find them. Also, he talks about being caught off guard by transsexuals a few times.

The bolded blue certainly indicates stalking behavior on his part!!