Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #1

[Plumeria5]

Just a long shot but who that she knew would stand to "benefit" from her death? Someone that wanted her job? Doubtful but looking for every angle. If it isn't a stranger, how many people knew her routine?

I might add there are 42 guests right now.

 

[JanetElaine]

With just the information we've been given now, things are not adding up for me.

There are so may unusual circumstances: CD driving a car she normally didn't drive; parking in a spot she normally didn't park in; potentially forgetting both of her passes (I think someone mentioned her ORCA pass was also at home) when normally she wouldn't forget them; not promptly texting when she normally would have. Individually, they wouldn't be given much thought, but together it's all a bit too much for me to swallow the stranger theories. I hope I'm wrong.

If she was really driving a different car (I can't remember now if that has been confirmed by a reputable source), she could have left the badge(s) in her usual vehicle and not realized it until later. They were 'at home' as for as I know, not necessarily 'in' the home.

Also, wasn't it said that she actually would park there normally?

The not promptly texting actually makes me think more that it could be a stranger... if she'd gotten in the car with someone she knows, wouldn't she have texted "Oh hey, I ran into X, I'll ride with them/have them drop me off" something like that. She at least would have had the opportunity to. A stranger would have probably taken the battery out of the phone and been done (since it actually was turned off - it wasn't pinged elsewhere).

 

[Stripehaven]

if that is a TYPO ....the streets are so screwy out there can you tell me how far that 202nd sw is from 48th ave sw and 216th St SW

North of 216th. I think the LYNNWOOD Park and Ride is between 200th and 202nd, and 48th Ave SW runs alongside it, I think. It's way NORTH of the crime scene.

 

[Mistree]

Have you seen LE vehicles there when you have passed by her home? Does it look like any searches were done up there? Any tape up? Any large LE vehicles?

google maps has recent pics, I believe as early as 11/2015

 

[Native Pride]

Have you seen LE vehicles there when you have passed by her home? Does it look like any searches were done up there? Any tape up? Any large LE vehicles?

there were alot of ppl coming in and out of the home yesturday we did see police on 216th n 48th we saw them talking with someone who appeared to possible be her white car minutes later her husband truck drove up someone got out of the passenger side n approached the officer car ppl congregatting around the flashing police car the truck left immediately we drove back by her home the truck was not there we drove back later the truck was pulled back in the driveway if anyone is wondering why we drive by so much 1st of all yes we are noisy and it was my sister birthday yesturday lol but 2ndly we honestly live in the neighborhood n those are the roads we generally travel and my sister actually really lives by cd house and my-mom lives right on the same-street 48th n cedar way where they closed off where body was found my mom does not drive n walks all those area daily thats the only reason why we see anything i did not see any police activity at there home but the reporter did say she was there so-maybe that is who we saw coming out but we also saw ppl going in n shortly later they announced cd wake so definitely lots of family n friends coming n going and what was happening on 216th and 48th is unknown to us but something was .....we have no true idea what is happening or what happened to cd just following along

 

[Beesknees]

If you were in a Winter Monday morning heading for work and you had found yourselves in the same situation we have been told CD had, would you be writing 'I must go back home because I forgot my badge, so you just go to work and I'll take a bus' or would you call and speak live to your carpool friend?

 

[DatelineFan]

After poking around social media, I feel that LE has her phone records...

 

[terracotta]

there were alot of ppl coming in and out of the home yesturday we did see police on 216th n 48th we saw them talking with someone who appeared to possible be her white car minutes later her gusband truck drove up someone got out of the passenger side n approached the officer car ppl congregatting around the flashing police car the truck left immediately we drove back by her home the truck was not there we drove back later truck was pulled back in if anyone is wondering why we drive by so much 1st of all yes we are noisy lol but 2ndly we honestly live in the neighborhood n those are the roads we generally travel and my sister actually really lives by cd house and my-mom lives right on the same-street 48th n cedar way where they closed off where body was found my mom doess not driven walks all those area daily thats the only reason why we see anything i did not see ant activity at there home but the reporter did say she was there so-maybe that is who we saw coming out but we also saw ppl going in n shortly later the announced cd wake so definitely lots of family n friends coming n goingand what was happening on 216th and 48th is unknown to us but something was .....we have no true idea what is happening or what happened to cd just following along

Thank you...it must be shocking to have this happen right in your neighborhood. Did you sister know CD or her family?

 

[katydid23]

BBM In my experience (20+ years as a telecommunications paralegal) subpoenas/search warrants for telecoms to turn over call records usually have a 30 day response requirement. Sometimes as much as 6 weeks is given to respond, even in criminal matters. Because of this I would highly doubt that LE has any call detail records yet.

But if the husband was on the same cell plan, which is highly likely, he could give immediate permission for LE to look at the recent logs.

 

[Stripehaven]

there were alot of ppl coming in and out of the home yesturday we did see police on 216th n 48th we saw them talking with someone who appeared to possible be her white car minutes later her husband truck drove up someone got out of the passenger side n approached the officer car ppl congregatting around the flashing police car the truck left immediately we drove back by her home the truck was not there we drove back later the truck was pulled back in the driveway if anyone is wondering why we drive by so much 1st of all yes we are noisy and it was my sister birthday yesturday lol but 2ndly we honestly live in the neighborhood n those are the roads we generally travel and my sister actually really lives by cd house and my-mom lives right on the same-street 48th n cedar way where they closed off where body was found my mom does not drive n walks all those area daily thats the only reason why we see anything i did not see any police activity at there home but the reporter did say she was there so-maybe that is who we saw coming out but we also saw ppl going in n shortly later they announced cd wake so definitely lots of family n friends coming n going and what was happening on 216th and 48th is unknown to us but something was .....we have no true idea what is happening or what happened to cd just following along

I'll be honest; I've been tempted to drive by the house, but I live up closer to Brier and have no real excuse and that feels kind of weird. Back when I used to drive in to Seattle to work, I took Cedar to 244th to I-5. But these days I stay up north.

Thanks for the report. I too am very curious as to whether the house was searched. I suppose there wasn't probable cause, and if probable cause is determined from the autopsy - it might be too late.

Ugh. I want more info.

 

[Stripehaven]

If you were in a Winter Monday morning heading for work and you had found yourselves in the same situation we have been told CD had, would you be writing 'I must go back home because I forgot my badge, so you just go to work and I'll take a bus' or would you call and speak live to your carpool friend?

I would probably text. I don't make phone calls too often but I text all the time. So do my friends. And I am an old! Older than Cheryl by quite a bit.

 

[Mistree]

After poking around social media, I feel that LE has her phone records...

I agree, and add that it blows my mind how google maps has helped me.......

 

[Plumeria5]

This may have already been discussed but I see she is wearing a lanyard in this photo, thinking that it has her badge and/or bus pass on it?

 

[eucalyptuz]

For those wondering about whether K-9s are being used, this local news source has a photo of a dog participating in the search:
http://mltnews.com/search-and-rescue-crews-comb-for-evidence-related-to-body-found-sunday/

For those still unsure of the exact location of the culvert because of the street numbering system in Mountlake terrace (crazy!), here are the geo-coordinates:
47.777347, -122.290060
You can copy and paste them into any map app/website and you should be good... but if you can, you should try to access Steelman's great map which contains all the relevant locations plus some it's linked several times upthread.

 

[DatelineFan]

But if the husband was on the same cell plan, which is highly likely, he could give immediate permission for LE to look at the recent logs.

But I think they need to use a warrant. If this were to go to trial, the evidence could be thrown out if it was obtained without a warrant.

 

[Stripehaven]

I agree, and add that it blows my mind how google maps has helped me.......

Hmmm. HMMMM.

 

[Native Pride]

Thank you...it must be shocking to have this happen right in your neighborhood. Did you sister know CD or her family?

my brother stated he did a rockery there at cd home over 10 yrs ago i saw a rockery over grown in there yard but is my brother bull!@#$ me maybe but there is a very over grown one ....my mom has walked that area for 28 yrs she walks by cd home probably 2 to 4 times a day she recognizes cd but cant say if its from walking by or like the local stores like bartells qfc rogers the childrens school yadda yadda
grandpa drives by there home 2 to 4 times a day to pickup the grandchildren for school n bring them home he doesnt recall seeing cd .....her son appears to be close to my sister age its possible she nows him n attended school with him i have not asked her seems like cd n my family been in the mlt area for many years

 

[eucalyptuz]

This may have already been discussed but I see she is wearing a lanyard in this photo, thinking that it has her badge and/or bus pass on it?

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Yes, I thought so too when I first saw this photo. It also appears to be a work environment from the backdrop. If so, the dress code seems like "neat-casual" as apposed to "office chic" or "Google-slouch". I hope that helps us if/when we get information about the clothing she was found in.

ETA: After a zoom in on the lanyard's text, I can make out the fragment "...Research Cen..."

 

[Beesknees]

After poking around social media, I feel that LE has her phone records...

I agree, and add that it blows my mind how google maps has helped me.......

Hmmm. HMMMM.

I for the life of me understand nothing of this! Can you elaborate? :thinking: :dunno:

 

[katydid23]

But I think they need to use a warrant. If this were to go to trial, the evidence could be thrown out if it was obtained without a warrant.

right, but they often do both. They gain immediate access by permission first, to see if there was someone in contact with her that morning. And they also wait for a warrant so that can have it in case they are going to trial.