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  • #881
KHQ is stating RD is refusing to step down from the Omsbudsman position despite being asked to due to issues of misconduct from RD and two other members of the Committee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/patrickerickson/status/611389515266048000/photo/1

""I am deeply disturbed by the letter I received today from the Mayor and city council president requesting my resignation as chair of the office of police ombudsman commission.

I standby my work on behalf of the citizens of Spokane to further justice and promote civilian oversight of law enforcement.

I am sincerely troubled by the short sided conclusions that have so quickly been made with this report. I urge the people of Spokane to take a close look at the timing and intentions of the investigation and request for my resignation.

I will continue to promote greater transparency and accountability for law enforcement both locally and nationally."

Link to the full story here:

http://www.khq.com/story/29346440/r...indings-in-ombudsman-commission-investigation

She's so brazen!!

Hey everyone,

Just a reminder before I head to bed.

Be nice to each other.

Simple right?
Tricia

Ok Tricia. Thanks for the reminder. I will try not to act like a hothead!
 
  • #882
For a woman who dedicated her life to understanding the black experience she is oddly unable to see why her crime is so great: she appropriated the identity of a people who were once enslaved and are still struggling to be treated as full citizens. You just don’t go there. In an age of riots, police brutality and economic segregation, white people do not get to wear blackness as though it was fancy dress. And yet Dolezal is not the first Caucasian to try. And she probably won’t be the last.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...re-about-white-people-than-black-culture.html

One element of black ethnicity that can spice up the dullest white life is the history of victimisation. And, boy, did Dolezal enjoy playing the victim. There was a particularly painful moment in her assorted collection of fibs when she went to see 12 Years A Slave and wrote that black people would be advised to sit at the back of the cinema to avoid the eyes of oppressive whites: “if white people are inclined to stare, they have to turn all the way round to do it.” Here she was watching a movie about slavery, not only identifying herself with the black characters but actually advising her “fellow African-Americans” on how to deal with the devastating ignorance of the white gaze. The moment hints at Dolezal’s true motivations. A generous reading is a confused individual who saw the injustice of her society, believed that she cannot be part of it, and so rewrote her own script to put her on the side of the good guys. An ungenerous reading is that she turned victimhood into what she imagined was a tool of privilege – a chance to assert moral superiority over those white filmgoers. Either way, her embrace of “otherness” has certainly spiced up this woman’s life.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...olezal-claimed-someone-elses-pain-for-herself
Rachel Dolezal, to put it politely, is one confused soul. The more she parades her delusional thinking, the more she convinces everyone else that her notion of identity as a choice is simply wrong. Is she mad, bad and dangerous to know? She is certainly maddening. Her fraud, at first seen as a kind of extreme wiggerism, now appears pretty dreadful. Sure, she was extremely adept at feigning “blackness”, but appearance isn’t everything. Whatever she thought she was doing, she has taken jobs, scholarships and funding away from black people in pursuit of this strange mixture of narcissism and super-victimhood.

It has been important that a political understanding of identity, whether around race, class or gender, insists on the primacy of lived experience. We literally need to speak for ourselves, instead of having others define us and speak for us. Experience matters. This woman, then, cannot know what it is actually like to have black skin; her privilege is enacted exactly through her insistence that racial identity is a choice.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tamerragriffin/friend-of-rachel-dolezal-speaks-out#.ow3paNZ1x

Rachel Dolezal’s Friend Says “She Would Have Fooled You, Too”

Someone close to Dolezal and her sons told BuzzFeed News that she often discussed issues like slavery, interracial relationships, and civil rights from what she claimed was a black woman’s perspective.

http://www.krem.com/story/news/loca...ezal-on-police-ombudsman-commission/28876379/
The eight findings in the report admonish the conduct of chair Rachel Dolezal and commissioners Kevin Berkompas and Adrian Dominguez according to a press release issued Wednesday. Investigators began looking into the claims on May 4 after a complaint was filed in April.

The eight findings include workplace harassment, taking on duties not assigned, changing official meeting minutes, and criticizing the person that filed the complaint against all three in public. Leaders in the City of Spokane are most concerned with violating the trust of someone providing information privately to the city.

Not keeping details from informants private is one of the other four findings of misconduct, according to reports. Others include some commissioners expressing a bias against police, Dolezal's role with the NAACP is a conflict of interest, and another commissioner reportedly made false statements to investigators.

"She didn't even have the guts to apologize to her own community," Stuckart said when asked about Rachel Dolezal leaving for an interview in New York City on Monday.
 
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  • #884
KHQ is stating RD is refusing to step down from the Omsbudsman position despite being asked to due to issues of misconduct from RD and two other members of the Committee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/patrickerickson/status/611389515266048000/photo/1

""I am deeply disturbed by the letter I received today from the Mayor and city council president requesting my resignation as chair of the office of police ombudsman commission.

I standby my work on behalf of the citizens of Spokane to further justice and promote civilian oversight of law enforcement.

I am sincerely troubled by the short sided conclusions that have so quickly been made with this report. I urge the people of Spokane to take a close look at the timing and intentions of the investigation and request for my resignation.

I will continue to promote greater transparency and accountability for law enforcement both locally and nationally."Link to the full story here:

http://www.khq.com/story/29346440/r...indings-in-ombudsman-commission-investigation

Red by me - - -

Yes, by LEAKING names and info about cases! Guess that's her definition of "transparency"

Yeow, she's just a mess.............
 
  • #885
At least she's giving Donald Trump some hair competition ;)

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  • #886
The Investigation took place between May 4 and June 5, and 20 witnesses were interviewed, including the three named in complaint.

In the report, it states evidence and interviews confirmed workplace harassment allegations.

So she knew very well that this was coming.


T
he complaint alleges shortly after Burns' left, Dolezal, Berkompas, and Dominguez began micromanaging the woman, wanting to know which projects she was working on and tried to control which tasks had priority. The complaint also alleges the three would give the woman directives that conflicted with what other commissioners had told her to do.
The complaint states the woman met with Chris Cavanaugh regarding the treatment she was receiving both in January and in April.

OPOC Commissioner Scott Richter told investigators he too observed his fellow commissioners' conduct and brought his concerns to council members on several occasions. He told council members he believed Dolezal, Berkompas, and Dominguez's conduct led to Burns leaving the OPO.

Richter stated the three were mistreating staff, and expressed they were taking on duties specifically reserved to the Police Ombudsman
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  • #887
Respectfully snipped for space - Originally posted by Donjeta...
(Red/bold by me)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...in-for-herself
Rachel Dolezal, to put it politely, is one confused soul. The more she parades her delusional thinking, the more she convinces everyone else that her notion of identity as a choice is simply wrong. Is she mad, bad and dangerous to know? She is certainly maddening. Her fraud, at first seen as a kind of extreme wiggerism, now appears pretty dreadful. Sure, she was extremely adept at feigning “blackness”, but appearance isn’t everything. Whatever she thought she was doing, she has taken jobs, scholarships and funding away from black people in pursuit of this strange mixture of narcissism and super-victimhood.

^
All three - she's what I would term "toxic" and I can only imagine the pure he!! she's put any/every one she's encountered in her life through.
 
  • #888
Trolls were just waiting for Rachel Dolezal: Her fraudulent life story sets everyone back
This was the right's dream, a narrative for skeptics of anti-racist work to mock every white anti-racist ally
Arthur Chu
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/16/tro...her_fraudulent_life_story_sets_everyone_back/
This is my plea to anyone considering pulling an Amina Arraf, or a Rachel Dolezal–if you care at all about the cause you profess to be fighting for, think about the fact that when you eventually get caught–and in the Twitter era it’s a question of “when,” not “if”–you’ll be giving the worst people in the world the biggest field day of their lives when you do.

The more she talks the more she sounds like a liar:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/06/whas-rachel-dolezal-has-said-about-her-identity.html

"Some of it has been a little bit of creative nonfiction with regards to what happened and the sequence of events and dates and so forth. I've never seen pictures of Ruthanne being pregnant with me, and the birth certificate is a month and a half after I was actually born. And yes, they were living in a tepee and building the house when I was actually born and I actually remember, the tepee was across the road from the house, and yes, I had a recurve bow and Larry had a compound bow and there was hunting ... in Montana ... My family, meaning my three younger siblings and Izaiah, moved to Montana to Colorado to South Africa, and I went to undergrad school in Mississippi and then I went to grad school at Howard [University] — that's all true. So 'my family moved here and then did this' doesn't necessarily mean I went each place with them through that whole process." [MSBNC's All In, June 16, 2015]

Dolezal on Whether She's a Liar
When asked, "Have you ever lied about your race?": "No, because I've never been asked, 'Are you human or not human?' Race as a construct is a fluid understanding." [NBC Nightly News, June 16, 2015]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-opens-up-being-black_n_7598974.html

On being a ‘con artist’:

“I don't think anything that I have done with regard to the movement, my work, my life, my identity, I mean, it's all been very thoughtful and careful, sometimes decisions have been made for survival reasons or to protect people that I love,” she said. “And all things included, when it boils down, the entire world could say stand down. But when it comes to being there for my kids, for my sister, I would never stand down on that.”

That didn't even begin to answer the question whether she's a con artist, just reiterates that if she is she must have had most excellent reasons for it.

She said she is offended when airport security agents touch her hair. “Oh no, hell no,” she said. “I'm like, 'Get your hands out of my hair!' And no. Like, you know, no. No that's a personal violation. That's a privacy breach.”

Because she's Rachel Dolezal and the airport security rules that apply to everyone else don't apply to her.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/06/whas-rachel-dolezal-has-said-about-her-identity.html

On whether her children are okay:

“They are, they are. They mean the world to me. Nothing will ever come before them, including me,” Dolezal said. “And I hope that this whole conversation ultimately at the end of the day leads to self-determination and empowerment, not only for them, but also for the world. You know? For everyone. But especially for them.”

So she lied and made life so much harder for her sons, and eventually it will mean that everyone in the world is empowered and enlightened.
 
  • #889
And this too:
On what she means when she says she is black:

“First of all, it means that I have really gone there with the experience in terms of being a mother of two black sons and really owning what it -- what it means to experience and live blackness. And that's one aspect,” she said.

On dealing with the reactions from black women:

“I would say in stepping outside of myself, I would probably be enraged. I would be like, what the ... You know, this -- how dare she claim this?” Dolezal said.

“But they don't know me. They really don't know what I've actually walked through and how hard it is. This has not been something that just is a casual, you know come-and-go sort of identity you know, or an identity crisis. It's something that I've paid away.”

Sooo... Rachel Dolezal knows exactly how hard it is to be a black woman and can speak for them although she's never been one, but black women don't have a clue about how hard it is to be Rachel Dolezal because they've never been one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-opens-up-being-black_n_7598974.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ly-brazen-turn-as-a-misunderstood-politician/

Rachel Dolezal’s remarkably brazen turn as a misunderstood politician
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ly-brazen-turn-as-a-misunderstood-politician/
“This is not some freak 'Birth of a Nation' mockery, blackface performance. This is on a very real, connected level. I’ve actually had to go there with the experience … not just a visual representation. And the point at which that really solidified is when I got full custody of my, of Isiah. And he said,, you are my real mom. And he’s in high school. And for that to be something that is plausible, you know, I certainly can't be seen as white and be Isiah’s mom.”

Yes, America, yes. Dolezal said she has experienced life as a black person in America. She has done more than simply dress up and make public appearances as her notion of a black woman, all while engaged in important racial justice work. She simply let some inaccurate information stand. And, by the way, she did all of this for her family. She did it for her son.

In 2010, the first year the Census tracked these figures, there were nearly 4.7 million American households where adults lived with adopted, step or biological children of a different race or ethnicity. This figure makes up about 12 percent of all the nation’s households with kids and includes every racial and ethnic combination of parents and kids imaginable.

So it really is not at all “obvious” why caring for her adopted brother required her to become black – or as she described it, to allow the misconceptions of others to stand.
 
  • #890
  • #891
Half of the time I can't even understand what she is trying to say. It's like a word salad is coming out of her mouth.
 
  • #892
Years ago our neighbors had a prized white German Shepherd. They paraded that poor dog around and bragged on her until the whole town was tired of it.

They had certificates framed on the wall showing that dog's pedigree.

At backyard barbeques this dog was their singular topic of conversation. How bright and intelligent she was, how as soon as she was old enough and the vet cleared her they were going to breed her to another white German Shepherd.

Sure enough the time soon arrived and after painstaking and careful research they found their prized white German Shepherd a suitable mate.

And mated them.

In front of professional dog trainers and handlers and a veterinarian.

About two months later she gave birth to?? A big batch of chocolate lab/shepherd mix puppies. <------(Because someone wasn't telling the truth and dogs don't lie).

:D

Just saying...who really cares about any of this? WHO CARES?

Ask yourself why it is that as a nation we have to swarm in on someone who makes a mistake and just POUND them into the ground.

She lied.

She lost her job.

She's been publicly humiliated.

Her own parents went on national tv and called her out even though from all reports their own household is a den of chaos and anger.

Don't you all have anything better to do than to virtually STONE this woman? Let her identify with who ever she wants.

Spend your energy feeding kids who go hungry all summer long.
Spend your energy visiting some old people who don't get any visitors.

Spend your energy doing ANYTHING ELSE but absolutely slaying someone on the public guillotine of opinion.

As a nation we can do better. As a people we can do better.
 
  • #893
I had to look up the definition of wiggerism, after reading the link Donjeta posted. I am embarrassed to say that my son, as a teen, thought it was cool to wear his hat backwards, his jeans low revealing his boxers, sleeveless t shirts, and driving, sitting off center in the front seat. He is blonde and blue eyed, and white. I found a doo rag and that was it. I had been speaking to him about his ridiculousness prior, but the doo rag was the final straw.

I told him how disrespectful it was to the black culture and that he did not look cool. He was a preppy white boy from the suburbs, trying to be hip. It drove me nuts. He stopped trying to look/be cool finally as he came into his own, and I was grateful that phase was over.

In view of RD, was I right? Or was I being too sensitive? I have taught my children to be respectful of others regardless of race, and his wiggerisms were a bit much.
 
  • #894
I had to look up the definition of wiggerism, after reading the link Donjeta posted. I am embarrassed to say that my son, as a teen, thought it was cool to wear his hat backwards, his jeans low revealing his boxers, sleeveless t shirts, and driving, sitting off center in the front seat. He is blonde and blue eyed, and white. I found a doo rag and that was it. I had been speaking to him about his ridiculousness prior, but the doo rag was the final straw.

I told him how disrespectful it was to the black culture and that he did not look cool. He was a preppy white boy from the suburbs, trying to be hip. It drove me nuts. He stopped trying to look/be cool finally as he came into his own, and I was grateful that phase was over.

In view of RD, was I right? Or was I being too sensitive? I have taught my children to be respectful of others regardless of race, and his wiggerisms were a bit much.

Teaching your children to respect others is probably the single greatest thing you can ever teach them. It is the umbrella of decent behavior worldwide, crosses all boundaries and may just save their life when meeting the wrong person on the street.

Good job mom.
 
  • #895
When children are little we allow them to pretend. To 'Make Believe'.
Disney built an empire on this.

In this modern age we have become a society of make believe. I see it where I live all the time. Bankers and other professionals buy heaping loads of leather wear and get tattoos so that on the weekends they can hop on their Harley Davidson motorcycle and pretend to be a biker. :yuck:

I see it at the lake when I go there and families are pretending to live lavish and expensive lifestyles with new boats and jet skies but at the store they are paying for groceries with their Visa.

I see it in the 45++ year old women in my town, wearing bedazzled pocketed jeans and pretending to look much younger than they really are.

I've seen it at the bar, people pretending to be drunk. And in every day life, alcoholics pretending to be sober.

I've seen in in the church. Large groups of people in there doing nothing but pretending.

I've seen it right here on Websleuths. People with assumed names online pretending to be in touch with law enforcement, pretending to be far more powerful than they really are, pretending to have psychic powers, pretending to be someone else.
(This is absolutely true and the reason that the 'Verified Insider' status was added).

Apparently this woman's life was so pathetic and awful for her that she had to pretend herself into a different one. This is seen as a coping mechanism by some.

For me, the issue isn't about her pretending to be something she wasn't born as, it was about her lying.

I'm going to go now and pretend I'm on a tropical island enjoying the surf and sun.

Yours in make believe;
IBsleuthin.
 
  • #896
I think this woman really enjoyes being a victim (or being thought of as one).
She has a long history of making various alelgations of abuse/hate crimes, etc. So far none of her hate crime allegations resulted in any arrests.
Even her son came up with complaint, claiming somebody yelled racial slurs at him, making him to be scared and run away from the store, knocking over wine bottles (while security video shows wine bottle knocked to the floor because son or his friend were playing with a ball).
I feel sorry for her brother.
I think he could be getting a raw deal.
 
  • #897
I had to look up the definition of wiggerism, after reading the link Donjeta posted. I am embarrassed to say that my son, as a teen, thought it was cool to wear his hat backwards, his jeans low revealing his boxers, sleeveless t shirts, and driving, sitting off center in the front seat. He is blonde and blue eyed, and white. I found a doo rag and that was it. I had been speaking to him about his ridiculousness prior, but the doo rag was the final straw.

I told him how disrespectful it was to the black culture and that he did not look cool. He was a preppy white boy from the suburbs, trying to be hip. It drove me nuts. He stopped trying to look/be cool finally as he came into his own, and I was grateful that phase was over.

In view of RD, was I right? Or was I being too sensitive? I have taught my children to be respectful of others regardless of race, and his wiggerisms were a bit much.

Bbm, I gotta tell you, years ago I had some one tell me that in prison (back then) wearing the pants to expose the panties was a way of saying you were a bit$h. It has gotten twisted around some how to look cool. But I do smile when I see guys showing their sweet side without realizing that is what it really means. jmo idk Just like the phrase, red neck got twisted from it meaning a union coal miner. jmo idk
 
  • #898
JMO but you don't get to invent a whole fake life history, teach students about your experiences about something that never happened, file false complaints, indulce in workplace harassment, lie, lie, lie and go to several national TV shows when caught, refusing to take responsibility of any of your lies, and say, "hey, it was just a mistake, don't talk about it because it makes me feel bad." Well, you can say it but no one's obliged to respect your wishes.
 
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(Bold by me)
Years ago our neighbors had a prized white German Shepherd. They paraded that poor dog around and bragged on her until the whole town was tired of it.

They had certificates framed on the wall showing that dog's pedigree.

At backyard barbeques this dog was their singular topic of conversation. How bright and intelligent she was, how as soon as she was old enough and the vet cleared her they were going to breed her to another white German Shepherd.

Sure enough the time soon arrived and after painstaking and careful research they found their prized white German Shepherd a suitable mate.

And mated them.

In front of professional dog trainers and handlers and a veterinarian.

About two months later she gave birth to?? A big batch of chocolate lab/shepherd mix puppies. <------(Because someone wasn't telling the truth and dogs don't lie).

:D

Just saying...who really cares about any of this? WHO CARES?

Ask yourself why it is that as a nation we have to swarm in on someone who makes a mistake and just POUND them into the ground.

She lied.

She lost her job.

She's been publicly humiliated.

Her own parents went on national tv and called her out even though from all reports their own household is a den of chaos and anger.

Don't you all have anything better to do than to virtually STONE this woman? Let her identify with who ever she wants.

Spend your energy feeding kids who go hungry all summer long.
Spend your energy visiting some old people who don't get any visitors.

Spend your energy doing ANYTHING ELSE but absolutely slaying someone on the public guillotine of opinion.

As a nation we can do better. As a people we can do better.



Whoa, hold up there... first of all, there is an assumption in your post I'd like to dispel; simply because one reads/comments on this issue - or any issue for that matter - does not mean they do not volunteer their time, for example, at their local food pantry, delivering meals-on-wheels, mentoring local at-risk youth, or co-facilitating a battered women's group, etc. Trust me, you can be social-issue active/involved and still care, have thoughts on, AND have a say on other matters and/or issues, such as this. With that said, this woman has committed a fraud that is not without victims; coupled with the fact that she has yet to even admit any wrongdoing, take any personal responsibility whatsoever, and apologize to those she has deceived, used, and exploited for her own gain (:gain" meaning to help advance her narrative). Perhaps people will be more likely to move on when she does so.

MOO ~
 
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