Just some items ( not implying anything about this poor man's murder, just posting items someone with a safe might store inside their safe) guns, other weapons, cash, drugs, jewellery, personal papers etc.
WA - Gabriel Davies, 16, Found Safe - Then Charged With Murder, Olympia, 30 Aug 2022
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Let’s assume the biker story is BS. What could a 16 year old boy possibly want to take from his mother’s ex? (I can’t remember if they were actually married or not. Or if we were ever privy to that info.)
Whats more, what could he possibly want that’d he’d be willing to kill for? Doesn’t make sense to me.
Whats more, what could he possibly want that’d he’d be willing to kill for? Doesn’t make sense to me.
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Drugs.
Although if he lived by himself, he probably wouldn't keep it in a safe-unless there was quite a bit of it.
Oh I never even thought of that, it's possible for sure.
Has it been stated how long they believe he had been dead when discovered? The note about decomp making wound identification difficult is interesting. I suppose if it were warm enough and A/C was either non-existent or off, rate of decomp would certainly be quite fast, but seems like after 4-5 days the ME would still be able to tell the type of wounds. Just curious.
I wonder what the breaking point was for GD? Like… could he just not take it anymore and freaked out and pulled over at some random driveway? Still very curious as to how he wound up where he did both when he initially went missing and when he was found.
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Wow! I totally missed it but saw in King5 news on FB, today.
(Shocked, of course). Of interest, in the biker story, GD “admitted to damaging his cellphone – found near his vehicle – because he was afraid police would find what was on it.”
I don’t know if it has been mentioned anywhere else, but it is in FB version of King 5 News.
(Shocked, of course). Of interest, in the biker story, GD “admitted to damaging his cellphone – found near his vehicle – because he was afraid police would find what was on it.”
I don’t know if it has been mentioned anywhere else, but it is in FB version of King 5 News.
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Link to above.
Father claims Orting man’s ‘biker buddies’ pressured teen to rob victim before killing
Gabriel Davies and Justin Yoon are suspected of killing a 51-year-old Orting man.
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Link to above.
Father claims Orting man’s ‘biker buddies’ pressured teen to rob victim before killing
Gabriel Davies and Justin Yoon are suspected of killing a 51-year-old Orting man.
Am I the only one starting to get the vibe that this might have been some sort of personal revenge on the part of GD?
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Wondering what type of safe and how they planned to get into it.
Small closet size (like in hotel rooms, more like an oversized lock box)
Larger tall gun safe
Small closet size (like in hotel rooms, more like an oversized lock box)
Larger tall gun safe
We don't know the "family" dynamics. There could have been some real or perceived grudge held against the murder victim by GD and/or his mother or some property one of them felt entitled to. Not that this justifies anything, but it would go a ways to a motive.
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I agree and I think he was perceived as both a known and easy target. GD knew exactly what he was after from the safe: weapons and probably cash.
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The safe was located inside the garage. I think it was large -- most likely a gun safe.
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I truly don't think the murder was premeditated. I think the two teens were after guns, cool throwing knives, cash, and anything they could sell easily. I think they were pumping each other up with the dark clothing and their plan to crawl through the doggy door (heck GD probably crawled through it at one time or another when locked out of the house at the time he resided there).
I think when he interrupted them things went south fast. That is why he was both shot and stabbed. He put up a fight. With him being a known gun owner GD and JY were probably concerned about him gaining the upper hand and so a frenzy of shooting/stabbing took place. All of this probably felt like it went in fast motion. One minute he's interrupting them and the next there is a massive struggle, and then victim is dead and there is blood everywhere.
Once DM was dead, then was the panic around oh crap, we need to get out of here. They were sloppy because they didn't have a plan to escape, get away with murder, none of it. They didn't plan to kill him. JMO.
They weren't sent there by anyone MOO This was a burglary that became murder. Very sad. These boys had a whole future ahead. Their own idiocy and bravado has ruined that.
I think when he interrupted them things went south fast. That is why he was both shot and stabbed. He put up a fight. With him being a known gun owner GD and JY were probably concerned about him gaining the upper hand and so a frenzy of shooting/stabbing took place. All of this probably felt like it went in fast motion. One minute he's interrupting them and the next there is a massive struggle, and then victim is dead and there is blood everywhere.
Once DM was dead, then was the panic around oh crap, we need to get out of here. They were sloppy because they didn't have a plan to escape, get away with murder, none of it. They didn't plan to kill him. JMO.
They weren't sent there by anyone MOO This was a burglary that became murder. Very sad. These boys had a whole future ahead. Their own idiocy and bravado has ruined that.
and there were maggots in the wounds....
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I believe from the charging documents that the victim, DM, was murdered early Sunday morning, 8/28/22 -- about 2:41 AM. His body was discovered by LE when they went to DM's residence for a welfare check on Thursday, 9/1/22. In other words, 5 days.
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You don't get shot in the temple during a gun battle. I think they compelled him to kneel down with a knife to his throat and then they executed him.
Neighbors interviewed said that he was away from his house a lot so between that and his job it sounds like they might have needed to go out of their way to break in when he was there as according to my math it would have been just a fraction of the time. I suppose it's not impossible that it was just dumb luck and their plan was scheduled around Davies's family's camping trip rather than anything about their intended victim and because he was away so much they just assumed that he would be that night, then when they were already mid-plan neither one wanted to back down in front of the other even if they did realize he was home.
Of course, if I understand correctly whether it was a simple robbery gone wrong or a targeted killing doesn't make any difference in Washington law. What I said before about making a claim of molestation having been the best justification still holds true and @charminglane suggesting that the emptied safe might have contained video starts my wheels turning on a plausible defense that the victim might have not only sexually abused Gabriel, but had video of it and perhaps was even extorting our "handsome missing angel". I don't personally think that is likely, but artfully crafted it could explain all of the clumsy (even irrational) modus operandi - that Gabriel was trying to get and destroy all the evidence that he had been abused without it ever being known to anyone because he was so ashamed of it.
Of course if he claims he successfully destroyed all evidence then it would only be his own testimony to prove that he was a victim - and it would need to stand against modern technology where very little data (including video) is ever completely destroyed. Forensics will almost certainly recover the data from the broken phone and of course the server-side data will also be intact - call records, contents of sent and received messages etc. Victim and suspects' computers and tablets will be analyzed. Can a convincing argument still be made that someone recorded things on tapes and polaroids and only ever talked about it face to face?
Neighbors interviewed said that he was away from his house a lot so between that and his job it sounds like they might have needed to go out of their way to break in when he was there as according to my math it would have been just a fraction of the time. I suppose it's not impossible that it was just dumb luck and their plan was scheduled around Davies's family's camping trip rather than anything about their intended victim and because he was away so much they just assumed that he would be that night, then when they were already mid-plan neither one wanted to back down in front of the other even if they did realize he was home.
Of course, if I understand correctly whether it was a simple robbery gone wrong or a targeted killing doesn't make any difference in Washington law. What I said before about making a claim of molestation having been the best justification still holds true and @charminglane suggesting that the emptied safe might have contained video starts my wheels turning on a plausible defense that the victim might have not only sexually abused Gabriel, but had video of it and perhaps was even extorting our "handsome missing angel". I don't personally think that is likely, but artfully crafted it could explain all of the clumsy (even irrational) modus operandi - that Gabriel was trying to get and destroy all the evidence that he had been abused without it ever being known to anyone because he was so ashamed of it.
Of course if he claims he successfully destroyed all evidence then it would only be his own testimony to prove that he was a victim - and it would need to stand against modern technology where very little data (including video) is ever completely destroyed. Forensics will almost certainly recover the data from the broken phone and of course the server-side data will also be intact - call records, contents of sent and received messages etc. Victim and suspects' computers and tablets will be analyzed. Can a convincing argument still be made that someone recorded things on tapes and polaroids and only ever talked about it face to face?
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