Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #10 *Arrest*

[dlc]

Who saw her Saturday at 4:00?

I just scanned the Probable Cause Statement again, and I see no reference to this sighting. I read through quickly though, so I may have missed it.

 

[CatFancier]

Respectfully, I believe we have seen at least one MSM article that indicates they did not start searching until well past any "check-in window." I have posted on such link below, but I believe I have a few others saved as well.

JMO, IMO.

You could very well be right. For what it's worth, the probable cause doc does state the children were looking for her at the 830 time frame and gives all the times, I'll trust that legal doc rather than MSM and the 855. But, I have no doubt she was long dead by then anyway.

I'm not trying to defend the parents but rather keep some facts straight. If the probably cause doc states they became concerned after she missed the first check-in, that can be taken as fact. This case has enough going against the parents, GG, GG's mom, etc. without attempting to decide what they were thinking if we have LE backup.

 

[CatFancier]

The sighting at 4pm doesn't come from the probable cause doc but from this MSM:

Reports from neighbors put the girl’s last known appearance in the park between noon and 4 p.m. Aug. 3. She was possibly wearing jeans, a pink T-shirt and flip flops.

http://www.bremertonpatriot.com/news/270233541.html

 

[dlc]

You could very well be right. For what it's worth, the probable cause doc does state the children were looking for her at the 830 time frame and gives all the times, I'll trust that legal doc rather than MSM and the 855. But, I have no doubt she was long dead by then anyway.

I'm not trying to defend the parents but rather keep some facts straight. If the probably cause doc states they became concerned after she missed the first check-in, that can be taken as fact. This case has enough going against the parents, GG, GG's mom, etc. without attempting to decide what they were thinking if we have LE backup.

BBM

Yes, I had already added that to my post; the children were searching for her about a half an hour before the parents (again, thank God that nothing happened to either of these youngsters while they were doing this). However, this half hour still makes it almost 22 hours and 30 minutes before anyone from Jenise's family began an active search for her.

 

[dlc]

The sighting at 4pm doesn't come from the probable cause doc but from this MSM:



http://www.bremertonpatriot.com/news/270233541.html

My point exactly! The four o'clock sighting was mentioned in very early reports, and then pretty much disappeared, with later reports (as cited above) giving the 10 p.m. August 2nd time. The supposed 4 o'clock sighting was not included in the Probable Cause filing.

 

[MsMarple]

My point exactly! The four o'clock sighting was mentioned in very early reports, and then pretty much disappeared, with later reports (as cited above) giving the 10 p.m. August 2nd time. The supposed 4 o'clock sighting was not included in the Probable Cause filing.

Well, y'all beat me to it – I'm a slow writer. :blushing:

The problem with the CPC description of what JW told LE is that it contradicts itself. It was unusual for Jenise to be gone that early in the morning and the father became concerned when she missed a check in 2-4 hours later (approximately 9-11 am), yet he didn't send her siblings out to look for her until 8:30.

That makes no sense. If Jenise's parents were worried all day then why would they not bother to look for her until nine and half hours later? We also have to consider the 4 pm sightings as unverified right now since there's no reference in the CPC. Hopefully LE will clear that up at the August 28 hearing.

From the CPC:

"James told KCSO on August 3, 2014 at 0700 hours, he noticed JPW was not home. It is not unusual for JPW to play outside with friends for extended periods of time, and normally JPW checks in with family every 2-4 hours. It was however, unusual for JPW to be gone from the house that early in the morning. James did not become concerned until JPW did not check with family within the usual time frame. At about 2030 hours on August 3, 2014, JPW's siblings began checking with the neighbors and talking to the families of JPW's friends in an effort to locate her."

https://tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/gaeta_gabriel_141007866_prelim.pdf

 

[dlc]

You could very well be right. For what it's worth, the probable cause doc does state the children were looking for her at the 830 time frame and gives all the times, I'll trust that legal doc rather than MSM and the 855. But, I have no doubt she was long dead by then anyway.

I'm not trying to defend the parents but rather keep some facts straight. If the probably cause doc states they became concerned after she missed the first check-in, that can be taken as fact. This case has enough going against the parents, GG, GG's mom, etc. without attempting to decide what they were thinking if we have LE backup.

Oh me too, in terms of keeping the facts straight. And the fact is that the PCS says that although JW was concerned about Jenise missing her 2 to 4 hour check-in window (which would presumably mean a check in somewhere between 9 a.m. and 11 a.m.), it also states that that concern was not acted on until 8:30 pm (by the children), and 8:55 pm (by the parents), and, ultimately an hour later, when the police were finally summoned. And that is it, stated right there in black and white.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I am sure everyone here has heard the number 150 for the number of children who are kidnapped and/or murdered by acquaintances or strangers every year. That number has been around since 1999, even though crime has dropped since then. Why isn't there an updated number? I would be interested in a list of children (12 and under) who are victims of this type of crime in any given year. I wonder how many names would be on it? I also wonder why we have the number of victims for any other crime, but this number is taboo? I remember Ernie Allen, president of NCMEC, said that Kyron is one of the 150 kids a year, but how?

 

[Magdalyn]

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We’ve been controlled about what we can say and what we can’t say. There is still an ongoing investigation so I can’t speak about it,” said Jim Wright.

http://q13fox.com/2014/08/18/jenise...-when-they-will-regain-custody-of-their-kids/

 

[SCHMAE]

Regular poster here (and fighting with the mod side of me!): We have never seen a thing anywhere that says they didn't worry. We actually haven't seen anything that says they didn't look themselves earlier. We know they waited to call the police but what we have seen is that he didn't worry until the first check-in window passed (2-4 hours or between 9-11am).

For all we know, when they got to looking and asking neighbors, someone may have said they saw her that Sunday and that satisfied them enough to think she is very near and will be right home. For all we know, that someone was GG. I have a suspicion he is the source of the 12 to 4 sighting and if he was well liked by family and said " i just saw her going over to xyz' s house a little while ago'', then that would pacify the family for a little bit longer. mooo

ETA That could also explain why LE backed off that 12-4 sighting pretty early on. I'm thinking they knew very early on that GG was the man but did not want to give it away. They said unconfirmed and then stopped saying anything about it, IIRC.

 

[SCHMAE]

Very interesting. I don't understand why the custody of the kids is related to the ongoing investigation though.


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What if they are interviewing the siblings and possibly believe they were victims of GG at an earlier time?

 

[newone]

Ah, didn't think of that but if that is the only reason then it seems really messed up to not let the family mourn together just because a child may/may not be needed to testify at a trial that may/may not take place.


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respectfully, just from experience, when LE is collecting evidence from minors they do so very carefully using mental health professionals IME MOO

perhaps they don't want the minors to suppress information or be unduly influenced KWIM

 

[vasportsmom]

What if they are interviewing the siblings and possibly believe they were victims of GG at an earlier time?

Please no. There are enough victims in this case and more heartbreak than one lifetime can heal.


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[Momoffourboys]

Sweet angel.

 

[SCHMAE]

Please no. There are enough victims in this case and more heartbreak than one lifetime can heal.


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Hopefully not. But when you find out someone has done something like this, it's pretty common to go back to others he had access to and check right? It just makes me wonder if that' s why the delay in returning them PLUS the parents apparent cooperation with them not being returned yet. Speculating out loud.

 

[baltolady]

Hopefully not. But when you find out someone has done something like this, it's pretty common to go back to others he had access to and check right? It just makes me wonder if that' s why the delay in returning them PLUS the parents apparent cooperation with them not being returned yet. Speculating out loud.

I believe there are two separate investigations going on right now. One, of course, the criminal case and the other a CPS case. They may overlap in some areas. As difficult and confusing everything must be for them during this time, I am glad the children are safe with their grandparents. JMO, MOO

<sitting on hands here>:gaah::gaah::gaah:

 

[human]

I found the quote I was looking for, checked about a zillion MSM articles and it was in the Probable Cause doc (page one of the thread):

"It is not unusual for JPW to play outside with friends for extended periods of time, and normally JPW checks in with familiy every 2-4 hours...James did not become concerned until JPW didn't check in with family within the usual time frame."

I haven't seen that they were looking early but it continues to bother me that people say they weren't worried all day. Now if she was seen at 4pm and we definitely have MSM and the probably cause doc stating she was being searched for at 830, that narrows it to 4.5 hours, not the original two days then well over 24 hours as we see often.

Did her family know she was seen at 4 PM that day?

I wonder where it is she was seen?

So were GG's family gone that Sunday? Perhaps the step father was correct then stating GG was home all weekend because apparently he was around until 4 for sure then.

It seems so hard to imagine GG got her down that path with no one noticing.

And if the parents were not home, it seems strange that he did not take a vehicle and bring her far away into the woods. LE may stop a teen driving at night, but they usually are not interested in teens driving following the law in the daylight hours.

 

[blue22]

I just scanned the Probable Cause Statement again, and I see no reference to this sighting. I read through quickly though, so I may have missed it.

Typo, meant Sunday.

I totally forgot to edit my comment, sorry.

 

[newone]

28th of August is only 9 days away......

 

[Jo in Calif]

Question, if she was seen between 12 and 4 on Sun afternoon wearing jeans and a pink shirt, when did she change into the shorts that were found?