Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #8 *Arrest*

[2Hope4]

You know, a thought just came to me. What if GG knew where the key to the Wright's home was? If someone is that close to the family, then I don't think it would be a stretch. If there is a door that opens near the kids' bedroom, he could have snatched her right out of her own bed. :tantrum:

And I DO remember in the very first media releases it was said something about a sleep over. BUT, I just tried to find it and failed. Could be sleep deprived brain that I couldn't find it. I don't know if Dad meant he thought Jenise was at a sleep over, or if he meant there were others sleeping over at his home. I remember Dad saying if someone was letting Jenise stay at their home, to send her home, because she did have a home, and family waiting on her or something to that effect, not exact words.

 

[margarita25]

Sorry if this has already been asked / answered...

Has it been determined if anything belonging to Jenise was missing? Blanket? Teddy bear? (extra) Clothing?

 

[margarita25]

You know, a thought just came to me. What if GG knew where the key to the Wright's home was? If someone is that close to the family, then I don't think it would be a stretch. If there is a door that opens near the kids' bedroom, he could have snatched her right out of her own bed. :tantrum:

And I DO remember in the very first media releases it was said something about a sleep over. BUT, I just tried to find it and failed. Could be sleep deprived brain that I couldn't find it. I don't know if Dad meant he thought Jenise was at a sleep over, or if he meant there were others sleeping over at his home. I remember Dad saying if someone was letting Jenise stay at their home, to send her home, because she did have a home, and family waiting on her or something to that effect, not exact words.

Man, (woman), great thought about the key. They might have even just left their place unlocked (has that been determined? Any signs of forced entry? eta: duh, we probably would've heard about it if there was)

There is the case of the 3 year old girl in Australia quite recently, precious sweetheart was abducted right out of her bedroom window, and there was another sibling in the room iirc. Thank goodness she was found alive. He drove up to her window and stood on his car to jump in there---am I remembering this correctly? I can see the pictures of the house in my head...

eta: Oh, and THEN when they arrested this pedo he said he was trying to help her by removing her from a bad home situation *rolleyes* (and people actually bought this crap until the reports came back! Not me, I knew it was a classic sicko and I was like, "You guys really believe this crap he's spewing?!!!"

Where is that thread? Maybe I'm dreaming the whole thing. Good night.

 

[BelleIsle]

There might not even have been any forced entry if he did come into the home and take Jenise. It is possible that he could have rigged a door to not lock all the way, have had a spare key, knew where they hid their spare key, or could even have known which windows were left unlocked (or have left one unlocked). Brazen, but not impossible.

You know, a thought just came to me. What if GG knew where the key to the Wright's home was? If someone is that close to the family, then I don't think it would be a stretch. If there is a door that opens near the kids' bedroom, he could have snatched her right out of her own bed. :tantrum:

And I DO remember in the very first media releases it was said something about a sleep over. BUT, I just tried to find it and failed. Could be sleep deprived brain that I couldn't find it. I don't know if Dad meant he thought Jenise was at a sleep over, or if he meant there were others sleeping over at his home. I remember Dad saying if someone was letting Jenise stay at their home, to send her home, because she did have a home, and family waiting on her or something to that effect, not exact words.

BBM, great minds and all that...

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Two of our people actually found evidence Pros. missed. It was talked about on HLN/Nancy Grace..:websleuther::winner:

And several found the Henkel duct tape (that Casey used on Caylee) at the command center the Anthony's set up. It was discovered after Caylee was found and led back to the Anthony household.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

*** WARNING - reference to the crime and scene

For some reason, even though by all accounts on SM and in articles GG was quiet, shy, a "nice kid" .. I have a feeling GG was rushed for time, at least during certain points during the crime .. most likely after the main crime.

JW's underwear and shorts might have been mixed in with GG's clothes in his bedroom when GG transported JW to the mud bog. When he returned home to clean up from the mud bog he found that he had forgotten JW's clothing and took them to the bog and tossed them close but not too close to where he placed JW's body and then hurried back home. GG must have figured he could wash his own clothing and the towel or perhaps toss them in the next trash pickup .. he certainly would not discard them with JW's clothing. I believe once he was fully rid of all JW evidence (her body submerged, her clothing tossed - perhaps even tossed *after* the area was searched?) that he felt 'safe' and that attending the vigil and playing it as normal as possible that he would never be found out.

 

[katydid23]

Sunday would indeed be cutting it VERY close, unless there were no cops checking the woods Sunday night after they arrived, AND didn't get around to knocking on Gaeta's door in any hurry. She could have disappeared, suffered at his hands, been someplace, and moved all about an hour easy. That's if you go with just 30 minutes allowed for when she was moved. Maybe she was just laying in the "relative" open in those woods initially and he snuck back out and moved her a short distance and placed the pallet over her.

In rush to get back out of the woods — and in the dark, which I suspect it would be earlier under tree cover — he either forgot, couldn't see or dropped the clothing items that were found near her body.

Makes it back inside his home shortly before all Hades breaks loose with cops, which would not have been earlier than about 10:30pm. Quick shower and shove the muddy & bloody items out of sight.

For locals. How fast was there a notable response from LE? Meaning several cars and evidence that they were going beyond just door-to-door? How fast there with a K9 unit? How quickly were they headed into the woods? By 11pm?

The speed and numbers with searchers is what really reduces the timeline on Sunday, but that presumes he didn't haul her off into the woods before it even started to get dark. Without being aware of any confirmed sightings on Sunday, she may have been killed early that morning and buried/covered with the pallet a little later in the day. Are there a bunch of early morning risers in the MHP?

How close by do the transients live? I.e. how much privacy might one think they would have from 7-8:30am Sunday in those woods?

Those are all excellent questions. Especially if he was disposing of the evidence on Sunday night.

But I can't get past the 7 am Sunday morning , not in her bed, report.

I don't think that she was out and about on Sunday . Someone would have reported where she was and what she was doing on that day. I think GG already had her by that time Sunday morning. And if so, I can't believe he would have waited until Sunday night to dispose of all the incriminating evidence. He couldn't have known how long he had before people were going to come around asking where she was.

If she was already out of her home by 7 or 7:30 am, then I think she was long gone by then. :cry:

 

[2Hope4]

I could EASILY see there being a key outside in case the kids came home, had lost their own key, or maybe just a place they kept the key at all times for the kids to come in if someone wasn't home when they got out of school.

Speaking of church, any idea what the church service hours were?

I feel so terrible for Jenise's siblings. I pray they hold no guilt for this. They didn't do it, and they couldn't have prevented it. There's no reason for them to feel guilt at all, and I hope and pray they know that!!!! They've suffered a loss that most of could never imagine. I hope there's some victim type program that will offer them free counseling and whatever they need to help process this, and help them learn some type of coping to move forward.

Another question, as I'm having a DUH moment. DNA is different between siblings right? I think I read that even between twins there was differences, but now I'm not sure. No, I don't think anyone is a twin. I'm just wondering if someone has the same parents, then would their DNA be similar? I guess it wouldn't because the hearing said the DNA was only a match to GG and that huge number after. Since I don't believe someone could have planted his DNA...I have to stick with the facts we know. I don't remember seeing anything about unknown DNA found. IMO, then that must mean only one perp, the one arrested, GG.

I do hope every single child in that park has been questioned about him every touching them inappropriately, or even talking about doing anything to them. I would hope that even as intimidating as it can be for a child to speak with LE about such things, that each child would feel protected now, and be open to telling a parent, school teacher, or LE about it.

 

[Jules71]

Man, (woman), great thought about the key. They might have even just left their place unlocked (has that been determined? Any signs of forced entry? eta: duh, we probably would've heard about it if there was)

There is the case of the 3 year old girl in Australia quite recently, precious sweetheart was abducted right out of her bedroom window, and there was another sibling in the room iirc. Thank goodness she was found alive. He drove up to her window and stood on his car to jump in there---am I remembering this correctly? I can see the pictures of the house in my head...

eta: Oh, and THEN when they arrested this pedo he said he was trying to help her by removing her from a bad home situation *rolleyes* (and people actually bought this crap until the reports came back! Not me, I knew it was a classic sicko and I was like, "You guys really believe this crap he's spewing?!!!"

Where is that thread? Maybe I'm dreaming the whole thing. Good night.

Another one was little Sierra Newbold, also 6 iirc. Utah. Snatched from her bed with a sister close by. Prep shimmied the sliding door open and went upstairs and took her from her bed. Family had indoor video cams. Caught a few days later after robbing a bank. Raped her and left her for dead in a stream/creek bed. Heartbreaking.

Then there's Elizabeth Olten killed (strangled and buried) by neighbor teen girl who wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone. SICKENING.

 

[Oddsocks]

Man, (woman), great thought about the key. They might have even just left their place unlocked (has that been determined? Any signs of forced entry? eta: duh, we probably would've heard about it if there was)

There is the case of the 3 year old girl in Australia quite recently, precious sweetheart was abducted right out of her bedroom window, and there was another sibling in the room iirc. Thank goodness she was found alive. He drove up to her window and stood on his car to jump in there---am I remembering this correctly? I can see the pictures of the house in my head...

eta: Oh, and THEN when they arrested this pedo he said he was trying to help her by removing her from a bad home situation *rolleyes* (and people actually bought this crap until the reports came back! Not me, I knew it was a classic sicko and I was like, "You guys really believe this crap he's spewing?!!!"

Where is that thread? Maybe I'm dreaming the whole thing. Good night.

Not dreaming
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[CrazyKat]

Sunday would indeed be cutting it VERY close, unless there were no cops checking the woods Sunday night after they arrived, AND didn't get around to knocking on Gaeta's door in any hurry. She could have disappeared, suffered at his hands, been someplace, and moved all about an hour easy. That's if you go with just 30 minutes allowed for when she was moved. Maybe she was just laying in the "relative" open in those woods initially and he snuck back out and moved her a short distance and placed the pallet over her.

In rush to get back out of the woods — and in the dark, which I suspect it would be earlier under tree cover — he either forgot, couldn't see or dropped the clothing items that were found near her body.

Makes it back inside his home shortly before all Hades breaks loose with cops, which would not have been earlier than about 10:30pm. Quick shower and shove the muddy & bloody items out of sight.

For locals. How fast was there a notable response from LE? Meaning several cars and evidence that they were going beyond just door-to-door? How fast there with a K9 unit? How quickly were they headed into the woods? By 11pm?

The speed and numbers with searchers is what really reduces the timeline on Sunday, but that presumes he didn't haul her off into the woods before it even started to get dark. Without being aware of any confirmed sightings on Sunday, she may have been killed early that morning and buried/covered with the pallet a little later in the day. Are there a bunch of early morning risers in the MHP?

How close by do the transients live? I.e. how much privacy might one think they would have from 7-8:30am Sunday in those woods?

The LE first contact with GG and family was Aug 4, the day after Jenise was reported missing. There was LE on the scene that night but the news did not show them searching the woods, just saying that they were canvassing the neighborhood.

I know that on a local paper article, once her body was found, a comment on the article said "wasn't that the same area that had been previously searched? If so, how did they not find the body then?"

I am puzzled by that too. If the underwear was found one day, how could they have missed the body, esp if they had access to sniffer dogs?

But anyway...it would be possible for transients to live there as the brush is tall enough that you can't see it from the highway. But I am not certain there are any there. There is a known encampment of them further down the highway towards the gas station near the Walmart.

 

[2Hope4]

Sorry if this has already been asked / answered...

Has it been determined if anything belonging to Jenise was missing? Blanket? Teddy bear? (extra) Clothing?

There's been nothing mentioned to my knowledge about any missing items of hers. It was mentioned there was no signs of forced entry to Jenise's home. There was no description of what she might have been wearing when reported missing either. Hopefully someone had a video going and captured what clothing she was wearing on Saturday, and if seen on Sunday. If LE can get a solid lead on what she was wearing during the day Saturday, bedtime Saturday, then maybe they can get the timeline figured out. If a sibling helped her pick out clothing, or get dressed, they might even know what was missing. To be honest, I don't know that I could remember when mine were that age. Days seem to blend together, and unless it was a reason an item of significance was worn, or I noted it was getting too small, etc., then it's possible I wouldn't have any idea. Gosh, kids seem to have so many clothes, it would be hard to say what was missing, unless again it was a favorite item.

 

[2Hope4]

The LE first contact with GG and family was Aug 4, the day after Jenise was reported missing. There was LE on the scene that night but the news did not show them searching the woods, just saying that they were canvassing the neighborhood.

I know that on a local paper article, once her body was found, a comment on the article said "wasn't that the same area that had been previously searched? If so, how did they not find the body then?"

I am puzzled by that too. If the underwear was found one day, how could they have missed the body, esp if they had access to sniffer dogs?

But anyway...it would be possible for transients to live there as the brush is tall enough that you can't see it from the highway. But I am not certain there are any there. There is a known encampment of them further down the highway towards the gas station near the Walmart.

I need to learn to look up stuff so I can provide links.

I remember that some of the search teams were SAR groups, volunteers. Dogs while can be valuable, are not always reliable. We've seen so many cases where they were near the victim and never alerted, or the trial they alerted was no where near where the victim was found. I guess there' so many variables that it's not an exact science. And perhaps the dogs that were initially used were trying to detect an alive Jenise, thus were tracking dogs. If so, then they would have been trying to tract a scent of a child that literally had been all over that park at some point in time, so trying to figure which was fresh tract, which was old, and then the handler correctly knowing the dog's signals. IIRC, the body was found by specialized FBI dogs. IMO, most likely cadaver detecting dogs.

I think we might be overthinking some aspects of this crime. I don't know that the disposal of her body would have taken that much time. It was in his territory. Area he would have known well. A quick trip into the woods, the bog was down a ravine, don't know if the pallet was already in the woods, but I'm thinking it was. Pallets make great bridges over small creeks, and possibly even in the bog for crossing. I've never put one in a bog to test that theory though.

We also don't know at this point whether Jenise walked into the woods, or was carried there.

 

[Jules71]

In Tuesday's presser they said she may have been wearing pink shirt blue jeans and flip flops or bare feet. They said it was unconfirmed. They mentioned this when they were discussing witnesses possibly seeing her.

ETA: When a reporter asked if she was seen with others or alone the sheriff would not say.

I think the sighting may have been from him.

 

[2Hope4]

In Tuesday's presser they said she may have been wearing pink shirt blue jeans and flip flops or bare feet. They said it was unconfirmed. They mentioned this when they were discussing witnesses possibly seeing her.

ETA: When a reporter asked if she was seen with others or alone the sheriff would not say.

I think the sighting may have been from him.

IIRC, two people claimed to have seen her, but we don't know if they were from the same household or not, whether they were teens, or adults, and whether they were thinking Saturday instead of Sunday. We never got many details about that sighting, and sometimes eye witnesses are wrong, though not always intentionally. I don't think anything was said about what she might have been wearing Saturday. I guess time will tell if those clothing items are what she had on Sunday. LE knows by now.

 

[claudicici]

It shows Jenise's mom was following that account. It also leads to his girlfriend's account which has a pic of her and GG wearing the blue shirt as in the dog photo. She had referred to a surgery date in late July but that she got to see GG that morning, so I really think the dog photo was taken july 23rd, not on aug 6th. I think it was just posted on aug 6th. Either that or GG has very few clothes and wears that blue shirt a lot. But why in the heat?

wait there's only 4 followers and Jenise mom is one of them?

 

[anyoldtime48]

The LE first contact with GG and family was Aug 4, the day after Jenise was reported missing. There was LE on the scene that night but the news did not show them searching the woods, just saying that they were canvassing the neighborhood.

I know that on a local paper article, once her body was found, a comment on the article said "wasn't that the same area that had been previously searched? If so, how did they not find the body then?"

I am puzzled by that too. If the underwear was found one day, how could they have missed the body, esp if they had access to sniffer dogs?

But anyway...it would be possible for transients to live there as the brush is tall enough that you can't see it from the highway. But I am not certain there are any there. There is a known encampment of them further down the highway towards the gas station near the Walmart.

First contact was Aug 3 (Sunday) night. Dispatched approx 2153 hours and arrived at about 2234 hours.

LE had at least 2 dogs out fairly quickly, including a cadaver dog but her body was missed on at least one pass through the woods (many human searchers known) before an FBI K9 found her body on the 7th. No idea if the original cadaver dog was even taken into the woods or only around the park.

Search and Rescue was brought in pretty quickly, the question is precisely what time? Searchers were out day and night until her body was found, but the response in terms of number of personnel that late on a Sunday night I would not expect to be huge.

Some people from the park were already out going door to door when LE arrived.

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[musicaljoke]

You know, a thought just came to me. What if GG knew where the key to the Wright's home was? If someone is that close to the family, then I don't think it would be a stretch. If there is a door that opens near the kids' bedroom, he could have snatched her right out of her own bed. :tantrum:

The clothes she was wearing don't lead one to think of a bed snatch. No one knew what she was wearing, so she wasn't wearing the clothes she had on the day before, or the family would have said so, nor her night clothes, which were probably left in her room. I think that she got herself dressed w/o anyone seeing her, and left the house and was nabbed immediately.

But, I don't settle into that idea either, because teenage boys tend not to be up and going early Sunday morning.

I think that her clothing is telling us something.

A thought ... is it possible that she went to GG's house for breakfast while his mom was still there?

 

[RJA00]

The clothes she was wearing don't lead one to think of a bed snatch. No one knew what she was wearing, so she wasn't wearing the clothes she had on the day before, or the family would have said so, nor her night clothes, which were probably left in her room. I think that she got herself dressed w/o anyone seeing her, and left the house and was nabbed immediately.

But, I don't settle into that idea either, because teenage boys tend not to be up and going early Sunday morning.




I think that her clothing is telling us something.

A thought ... is it possible that she went to GG's house for breakfast while his mom was still there?

teenage athletes that i have known do get up early, run, exercise, they have to stay in shape.

 

[KristinSchmistin]

I need to learn to look up stuff so I can provide links.

I remember that some of the search teams were SAR groups, volunteers. Dogs while can be valuable, are not always reliable. We've seen so many cases where they were near the victim and never alerted, or the trial they alerted was no where near where the victim was found. I guess there' so many variables that it's not an exact science. And perhaps the dogs that were initially used were trying to detect an alive Jenise, thus were tracking dogs. If so, then they would have been trying to tract a scent of a child that literally had been all over that park at some point in time, so trying to figure which was fresh tract, which was old, and then the handler correctly knowing the dog's signals. IIRC, the body was found by specialized FBI dogs. IMO, most likely cadaver detecting dogs.

I think we might be overthinking some aspects of this crime. I don't know that the disposal of her body would have taken that much time. It was in his territory. Area he would have known well. A quick trip into the woods, the bog was down a ravine, don't know if the pallet was already in the woods, but I'm thinking it was. Pallets make great bridges over small creeks, and possibly even in the bog for crossing. I've never put one in a bog to test that theory though.

We also don't know at this point whether Jenise walked into the woods, or was carried there.

Interesting information re: working dogs (k9s) - cadaver dogs are trained to smell decomp. So it's quite possible that even if they did use cadaver dogs vs typical tracking dogs right off the bat, the dog didn't pick up anything until decomp started- BUT... seeing as the underwear was found near the area and not submerged in mud, it really makes me think she was someplace else first. And then was moved to that area later on.

Don't you think if they saw a pallet in the woods, they'd pick it up and check under it? And based on the underwear being there- any tracking dog would have picked that up. Unless they didn't use dogs. I just really think it's possible she was moved from the initial location where she was hidden after the crimes.