WA WA - Joseph Pichler, 18, Bremerton, 5 Jan 2006 - Child Actor - #2

[DazzlinDebSD]

Hmmm... that is certainly a possibility. I hope it's true, but it sure would be nice if they would share something with us. they don't even have to go into detail, just to let us know if he is safe, or if not safe at least has been found. So frustrating.

Joe has not been found, and he is not to be considered safe unless he is home with his family.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

On Wednesday November 26th People magazine will have an article on Joe. Finally, someone is listening to Kathy and not the detectives on this case who claim Joe took his own life.

 

[believe09]

On Wednesday November 23rd People magazine will have an article on Joe. Finally, someone is listening to Kathy and not the detectives on this case who claim Joe took his own life.

Thank you for the update DD, it will be interesting to read what has gone on behind the scenes for a while. And before you think that people here are posting without any understanding, there were many, many hours of work done on Joe's case. I was one of those who dug and dug, including discussions with LE in Bremerton as well as sending ME's in the Pacific Northwest photos of Joe's tattoo in an attempt to match up any UID's they might have. During your time with Kathy, she must have shared her theory on what happened to her son because she has one I believe.

I won't speak for everyone here, but the original theory that Joe was robbed of Magic The Gathering Cards never worked for me when he had so many expensive items in his apartment not to mention that very nice car and a big bank account....I have a hard time imagining that a core group of friends as young as they were would have conspired to off their friend for...what?

The last time I looked into the case, he was endangered missing-was there ever a VICAP done on him? I can't remember now.

 

[BeavisMom62]

People magazine! Well, that is good news! Looking forward to it. Oh, that was yesterday huh? Has anyone picked it up?

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

Thank you for the update DD, it will be interesting to read what has gone on behind the scenes for a while. And before you think that people here are posting without any understanding, there were many, many hours of work done on Joe's case. I was one of those who dug and dug, including discussions with LE in Bremerton as well as sending ME's in the Pacific Northwest photos of Joe's tattoo in an attempt to match up any UID's they might have. During your time with Kathy, she must have shared her theory on what happened to her son because she has one I believe.

I won't speak for everyone here, but the original theory that Joe was robbed of Magic The Gathering Cards never worked for me when he had so many expensive items in his apartment not to mention that very nice car and a big bank account....I have a hard time imagining that a core group of friends as young as they were would have conspired to off their friend for...what?

The last time I looked into the case, he was endangered missing-was there ever a VICAP done on him? I can't remember now.

I'm not sure if there was ever a ViCAP done on Joe. I'm going to meet with Kathy tomorrow, and I'll find out. She is working on a blog that should be up and running very soon. As far as Joe's friends go, somebody knows something. It really floors me that LE in Bremerton has never even tried to retrieve all of those kids cell phone records, and text messages. I don't believe they offed their friend, but I do believe at least one of them knows exactly what happened.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

People magazine! Well, that is good news! Looking forward to it. Oh, that was yesterday huh? Has anyone picked it up?

Sorry, it's on Wednesday Nov, 26.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

This is the blog Kathy has written on myspace. This is just heartbreaking!!!! We need to keep digging friends, and find out what happened to Joe.

Monday, November 24, 2008

"Someone"


"SOMEONE" knows where my son is.

I am begging from the deepest part of my soul for SOMEONE to tell us where Joe is.

SOMEONE out there is thinking "time heals all wounds." SOMEONE is thinking "they will get over it in time." SOMEONE is dangling like puppets, SO many lives.

THIS WILL NEVER GO AWAY, WE WONT EVER GIVE UP OR FORGET. WE CANT AND WONT EVER BE OKAY WITHOUT FINDING JOE! There is SO much suffering, of so many people. Without finding Joe, there is no starting place to heal.

Every single day I can literally feel myself DIE a little more. SOMEONE can help my family have a chance at life. PLEASE can SOMEONE tell me where my baby is. All that matters is finding Joe… no matter what that means. I don't have to know who, what, or why.

PLEASE DEAR GOD WILL "SOMEBODY" JUST TELL ME WHERE!


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My missing son
Current mood: tired


PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG

My intention in writing this blog is for "3" specific purposes.

1. To find my son.

2. To help raise awareness about our country's epidemic of missing, and unidentified persons.

3. To help people who have NOT had a missing loved one understand, or have the tiniest peek into what life is like for those of us who have.

Knowledge is power, and educating yourself could make the difference of YOU one day being forced to wear these shoes. It's much easier to turn away from a poster of a missing person, than to acknowledge that the horrific reality that family is forced to live COULD be yours. I'm saying this from experience, and I'm completely ashamed to say that I used to be someone that turned my head away. It was far too painful to imagine, and I believed that "THIS COULDN'T HAPPEN TO ME."

*(More on this in a section below)

"IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO ME"…BUT IT DID!"

When it DID happen to me, I was totally mindless and in shock… and naively trusted that officials who I thought I could count on would know what to do… and that they would do the right thing.



*I welcome any constructive thoughts and ideas for help in finding my son, and/or ANY missing person. Please understand and respect that…..

THIS BLOG IS NOT:

A forum for debate

An outlet for those who seek/feed off drama

A chat room

My worst fear has always been: "Oh my god! I don't know what I would do if something ever happened to one of my kids." I believed with my whole heart and soul that if something did happen to one of them, that I would just go to my bed and die.

I believe that most parents have run the "what if" scenario through their mind at some point. It's a parents worst fear.

Please hear me when I say that the reality I'm forced to live now is SO much worse than my fear and motherly worry imagined it could be. This never ending second to second, breath to breath nightmare is a billion worlds away from my worst worries and fears.


I now have a severe case of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.) It's not my intention to hurt anyone, and I apologize in advance for anything I say that might be offensive. I'm just trying to be heard, and to help in some way that others may not have to live what my family and I are forced to live…and to FIND MY MISSING SON!

I'm not looking for pity. There's no purpose in it, and honestly pity only adds to the overwhelming intensity of the shatteredness that I already feel. Just please try and imagine, and take a peek into a shattered mind, body, spirit, and soul.

Below is a letter that I wrote to the editor of our local newspaper about 6 months after Joe went missing. Of course, it was never printed.

(I have since learned that my story is very common. The issues in this letter to the editor are very common… all over the country!)

"IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO ME"…BUT IT DID!

Fellow residents of Bremerton:

When it comes to tragedy, very often we tell ourselves "It couldn't happen to me." It's my opinion that we do this as a way of protecting ourselves from thoughts too horrifying to consider tossing around in our minds. When tragedy does strike unexpectedly, you may be left in a mental fog that's incapacitating, and leaves you at the mercy of others to know what to do.

On some level, we neatly tuck away the idea in our minds that if a tragedy did strike our family, the community resources we believe we can count on would be there to offer guidance, and help see us through. Please take a few moments to continue reading so you don't find yourself in a situation too horrible to imagine as I have.

The issues that I'm addressing in this letter are huge problems in our city, that need to be brought to the attention of Bremerton residents.

The worst kind of tragedy has struck my family. After six months of living a torturous minute to minute hell, I'm trying to bring these issues out in the open so they can be made right. Bringing public awareness to these problems is long overdue, but I needed to regain some mental clarity and to be sure that vengeance was not my driving force.

A parents' worst fear became my reality on January 5th 2006, the day my son (Joe Pichler) went missing… "It could, and did happen to me."

The instinctual knowing of my mothers intuition took me to my knees. I knew immediately that someone had hurt my baby… something was very wrong.

Barely able to breath, much less function, my husband and I went to law enforcement for help. We trusted that they would know what to do, and that they would be there to offer support, and to help us in any way possible to find my son. Our physical and mental numbness left us no alternative to believe otherwise. A detective told my husband and I that Joe had committed suicide, and that there was nothing to do except wait over the next couple months for his body to wash to shore. Those words are tattooed in my mind and are the words that for the next several weeks turned us into mindless zombies. The one and only thought in our minds was to find Joe, the only thought we were capable of.

It wasn't until weeks later that the fog lifted enough to question the theory that brought the police to their conclusion about my son. By that time a lot of precious time and evidence was lost. There is no proof or evidence that my son committed suicide, or that he was a victim of foul play. It is possible, yet very unlikely that my son left of his own free will, or that he's wandering around somewhere with amnesia. We are a very close family and Joe would never have willingly disappeared. It's not in my son's nature to be that hurtful and anyone who knows him can attest to that.

My sons apartment, and his car were not processed for evidence. Due to the hasty conclusions made by a department we thought we could trust, all scenarios in this case were not considered. I have made several attempts to contact the Chief of police to discuss this situation. To this day I have not yet even received a phone call from him. I have also made several attempts to contact the Mayor. After waiting an entire month for the Mayor to call me back, I went to his office again. The Mayor's first response upon our meeting was to lash out and yell at me, saying that I should not come to him with problems with the police. He yelled: "that's not my job!" and he walked away.

Five and a half months after my son went missing I received my first packet of information from the police department. "What to do if your loved one is missing."

Finally after 5 and a half months, law enforcement officials do not believe that my son is in the water, that he did not jump off the bridge… we've known that all along but no one would listen.

When I asked them that day, 'what can you do now to find my son?' The response from them was, "We're at a loss."

My family has lived in Bremerton for over 25 years, and most certainly don't deserve the treatment we've received from officials in our community.

My intention here now, is to bring awareness to fellow residents that in a time of crisis you may end up alone, as my family is.

There needs to be resources available, and officials in our city concerned about the residents as a first priority… not the new condo's downtown and the money they may bring. The well being, and security of the children in our city need to be the number "1" priority. As Parents, and members of this community we are responsible to see that these needs are met. Bremerton is our home, and this "could" happen to you.

Sincerely,

Kathy Pichler

(Almost 3 years later- I have still not even seen, much less spoken to the Chief of police, or the Mayor.)

Most days now consist of :

Trying to keep my 'tough shoes' on, and hang on to the thin, short string of sanity that I have left.

Dealing with constant PANIC, racing heart, nausea, a sense of failure, and worthlessness over the inability to find my son.

Having to endure physical and emotional pain SO intense that it hurts to breath, and feeling guilty that I'm able to. Is my son breathing? Is he warm? Has he eaten today?!?!

Managing PTSD symptoms.

Grasping onto bits of courage and strength to be able to do 'something' in the way of finding Joe.

Trying to find and maintain a portion of my old self as a wife and mother. My family is very broken too.

Having faith that getting out of bed is a good decision, and that one day I will understand why this nightmare was put upon us.

Trying to make some sort of normalcy in our lives, and be a source of strength for my family, when the 'strength, and normal' containers are completely empty!

I'm expected to face reality, and get on with my life. There is no reality here to face! There are no answers to ANY questions!

Trying to be strong and brave, while "MY CHILD IS MISSING."!!!

My mother's instinct told me from the beginning: "SOMEONE has done something very bad to my son. I feel like my motherly instinct should also be there to lead me to him.

I am Joe's momma, and I CANT FIND HIM!

People have also said that as Joe's mom, I should instinctually be led to him. Well it's NOT happening that way, ...can SOMEONE please just tell us WHERE my son is!

People have said:

"Have a memorial, let it go, put some CLOSURE to the whole situation."

FYI- The word CLOSURE is NOT a word that family members of missing persons want to hear. It doesn't sit well on our ears, and doesn't/can't apply.

Can SOMEONE PLEASE tell us where Joe is...


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[prd2bokie]

WOW!!!! That's exactly how I imagine I would feel. I think you reach a point where you would rather find your child, even if they are dead, and wouldn't care if you ever knew what happened or who did it. If someone, anyone, would just call and tell her where he is. Surely, a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, knows where he is. I'm sure she wants to just scream it out for someone to tell her. I know I would.

 

[Chicogirl36]

I spent the entire day with Kathy yesterday here in San Diego California. To say Kathy and this family have not been actively involved in searching for Joe is an unfair assumption. They have begged LE to interview the kids who were last seen with Joe. They have begged LE to get all cell phone records and text messages sent to and from Joe's phone. They begged LE from day one to take the car into forensics and examine it. They tried to get this case on AMW, and when LE was called by the producers LE said not to bother airing a show on this because it was a suicide. LE hasn't done anything for this family, except rebut all of their theorys, and tell them they are working on it. Working on it how I wonder?

There isn't a second of Kathy's day that she is not trying to figure out what's happened to Joe. It's so easy to sit back behind a computer and assume nobody is doing anything to find Joe, and assume this family possibly knows something. I can assure you this family has no idea where Joe is, nor do they know what's happened to him. LE has seriously screwed this case up, and those kids with Joe last know something. Until they slip up, or better yet until LE does their freakin job Joe will be a missing person.

Thank you Deb for sharing this info. I have still continued my email campaigns in Joes honor, and am glad you were able to meet Kathy. Please tell her that there are a lot of WS who care and are willing to help.

I am glad that he is getting the attention he deserves. You can tell he was a good boy, and I hope they resolve this mystery soon.

God Bless and be with the Pichler family.

 

[Chicogirl36]

People magazine! Well, that is good news! Looking forward to it. Oh, that was yesterday huh? Has anyone picked it up?

Hi Beavis Mom-
If you or anyone reads it, can you please tell me what the cover is? :blowkiss::blowkiss:

I will buy it, but wont remember the date when Im in the grocery store.:woohoo:

Thanks- Its the blonde showing thru

 

[MCDRAW]

Kathy's words just broke my heart. I could feel her pain. That mayor I hope will not be re elected! His job is to take care of the city, that includes the police department. I will continue to keep this family in my prayers.

 

[BeavisMom62]

I haven't picked up People yet. I thought that I would just see it and remember when I was in the grocery store, but I didn't, I forgot (and I'm not even blonde, LOL!). I have to put it on my grocery list and pick it up in the next few days.

That blog of Joe's mama is heartbreaking. I can't even imagine, nor do I even want to, what it must be like to be her, to be in her shoes. Poor woman. I hope for the day when this is all over for her, no matter how it turns out, so that she can find some peace. (Hi, Chico!)

 

[Chicogirl36]

Kathy's words just broke my heart. I could feel her pain. That mayor I hope will not be re elected! His job is to take care of the city, that includes the police department. I will continue to keep this family in my prayers.

Do you know who is on the cover, ANYONE??????

 

[thefragile7393]

I'd love to know too...my local Walgreens (as of yesterday) only has the Hugh Jackman cover and I thumbed that one through multiple times trying to find the story.

 

[MCDRAW]

Do you know who is on the cover, ANYONE??????

Chico: I have no idea. I haven't been to a store lately.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

Hi All,

I just talked to Kathy and she said it's not in this addition for some reason. She is very upset about this, and called the editor. The editor said everything was cleared to have Joe's story printed, and she will get back to her on Monday. I will update you all on Monday.

Deb

 

[dalerainmaker]

DDeb,

Ok.. thanks for posting this DDeb.

 

[dalerainmaker]

I just got a whole message deleted.

Oh well

 

[youshouldveknown]

The latest PEOPLE magazine is a white cover, and PEOPLE is outlined in blue, but the letters are also white. I can't recall who's on the cover. This is the one AFTER the Hugh Jackman issue.

I just glanced at it as I was leaving my pharmacy tonight. I'll be at Barnes and Noble tomorrow, so I'll check it out.

 

[Chicogirl36]

The latest PEOPLE magazine is a white cover, and PEOPLE is outlined in blue, but the letters are also white. I can't recall who's on the cover. This is the one AFTER the Hugh Jackman issue.

I just glanced at it as I was leaving my pharmacy tonight. I'll be at Barnes and Noble tomorrow, so I'll check it out.

Im confused YSHK- Thanks for the info on what the current cover is, but didnt Deb say that his story didnt make the issue? I dont know if you read/saw his story in this issue or if you were just letting me/us know what the cover is this week. :crazy: :crazy:

Let us know what you find out please. What a shame that Joe's story got emitted from the issue. Poor Kathy- her family and Joe don't deserve all these setbacks- I hope they find Joe soon- especially now during the holidays must be hard for families of the missing- :blowkiss:

Kathy, you and your family are in my prayers.