Found Deceased WA - Julie Montague Ayers, 67, got separated from her partner while walking the dog, has dementia, Mt Baker Natl Forest, Kendall, 10 Mar 2023

[Tower]

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[annpats]

I'm finding this case odd and terrifying at the same time.

I'm right there with you on that.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Surveillance images taken on Balfour Valley Drive show the vehicle, a silver sedan, driving through the area on March 10th.

65-year-old Julie Montague Ayers was reported missing later that day after getting separated from her partner during a walk.

Investigators are interested in speaking with the driver of the sedan to determine if they may have seen Montague Ayers that morning.

Whatcom County Sheriff's Office

The WCSO is looking to contact the owner of the pictured vehicle. The vehicle was in the area of Balfour Valley Dr. around the world time Julie Montague went missing on March 10th. Detectives would like to speak with the driver to see if they may have seen her that morning. Please contact Detective Derek Bogle at 360-778-6747 with information

Driver of silver sedan sought in case of missing Kendall woman | 790 KGMI

Investigators are interested in speaking with the driver of the sedan to determine if they may have seen Montague Ayers that morning.

kgmi.com

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I'm not sure what to make of LE's recent request to speak with the driver of the gray sedan spotted on surveillance footage the morning of Julie's disappearance. Supposedly Julie and her partner were in the forest walking at 9:30am, so I'm not sure what information the driver of the car would be able to provide that would be useful unless LE thinks Julie never went on the walk in the first place.

 

[swanniee11]

Very interesting. Why that car? I'm sure there are other vehicles that have driven on the road, especially since it states she was reported missing "later that day" IMO

 

[RickshawFan]

I’m not trying to advocate for Apple exactly, but their watches detect falls with just a nightly charge and they are much easier to use than what you describe. Ymmv moo

Yes, this. I wasn’t advocating for a particular brand, either, just for thinking about ways that existing technologies might be effectively purposed for novel applications, including dementia contexts. IME this is true of most cutting edge technologies: once it’s out there, it gets applied in situations the manufacturers hadn’t anticipated. Testament to human ingenuity!

Maybe, for instance, car technology can be re-purposed to keep cognitively-challenged individuals from “changing lanes”, i.e. leaving the side walk.

I would love it if technology could make it safer for seniors and cognitively challenged folks to enjoy the outdoors and allow them to be on a longer “leash” from home base. This is a life quality issue, and there are social and community financial reasons for helping the less-capacitated thrive. IMO.

It was interesting to me that SAR ended formal search as soon as they did in this case. IMO it must have some details we don’t know about. SAR members are so committed to their mission, that if they felt JA was findable without huge risk to themselves, they would have stayed out there. They also might have thought community searches would be more effective than a formal search at that point; by backing away, they could open up the area to community searchers. Community searchers are often otherwise restricted from SAR search areas. If SAR had finished canine and drone searches, and felt comfortable enough about the terrain and anticipated that injury to informal searchers would be low-risk, I could see them backing off.

 

[RickshawFan]

I'm not sure what to make of LE's recent request to speak with the driver of the gray sedan spotted on surveillance footage the morning of Julie's disappearance. Supposedly Julie and her partner were in the forest walking at 9:30am, so I'm not sure what information the driver of the car would be able to provide that would be useful unless LE thinks Julie never went on the walk in the first place.

It’s odd they singled out that car. You’d think there were cars driving past that camera all day long.

Also, they have a photo of that car in that spot, but AFAIK not JA going past that spot? That’s odd, too. That would mean JA never made it past that spot?

 

[Stunned]

IMO, sadly I believe the family is now grasping at straws, as I would also be doing.

 

[annpats]

IMO, sadly I believe the family is now grasping at straws, as I would also be doing.

Or are the police grasping at straws also?

I don't know what to make of this request to speak to the driver of the grey car seen near the area.

What makes THAT car the one they want?

Did no other cars go along that road within the hour?

Julie and her husband were walking on forest trails, so if she went off towards the suburbs/housing area, it is likely she would've been seen by people, or maybe even caught on other cameras.

Interesting to note that Julie wasn't seen on this security footage herself.....so why police asked the owners for access to it, (or even checked it at all) is odd.

It's just a random grey car.

Unless they have other footage of it lurking around or circling back and forth or other suspicious activity...?

 

[Stunned]

My friends husband got 8 miles. But that was Fla. not the woods in Wa.!

 

[Megnut]

When my uncle was suffering from dementia, though long retired, he was caught in a thought-loop believing he was late for a meeting. I wonder if Julie had anything similar and was able to flag down a vehicle and make a credible case for a driver to take her to another location. A store, a hospital, a nearby town... and now she's lost outside the original radius...

Question: while her partner chases after the dog, could she have navigated her way to a roadway?

I'm shocked she hasn't been found.

JMO

 

[annpats]

My friends husband got 8 miles. But that was Fla. not the woods in Wa.!

Let's hope Julie didn't go that far, especially if she went north....Canada is only 5 miles north.

 

[annpats]

I'm shocked she hasn't been found.

JMO

RSBM..

I'm not, due the the sheer density of forested land in the area.

 

[annpats]

I've highlighted Balfour Valley Road in yellow. Not many houses down there, just a few at the top, which is where the camera footage of the grey car must've been taken from. I wonder what it was doing down such a rural road? It must've come from the bottom end and been caught by a camera on a house at the top-end.
Balfour Valley Road leads to a dead-end at the bottom and a dead-end at the top unless you're turning right to get onto Kendall Road and to a more suburban area.
Balfour Valley Road also bisects Fire Trail....is this the trail Julie and her husband were walking?

 

[Gut_feeling]

I've highlighted Balfour Valley Road in yellow. Not many houses down there, just a few at the top, which is where the camera footage of the grey car must've been taken from. I wonder what it was doing down such a rural road? It must've come from the bottom end and been caught by a camera on a house at the top-end.
Balfour Valley Road leads to a dead-end at the bottom and a dead-end at the top unless you're turning right to get onto Kendall Road and to a more suburban area.
Balfour Valley Road also bisects Fire Trail....is this the trail Julie and her husband were walking

I was looking at the same thing. Unless you live in one those homes, or you are visiting someone, why would anyone drive this road? In those cases, it shouldn't be too difficult to identify the driver/car, right? So maybe thats why they want to find this driver/car, to find out what their business was being there that day?

 

[annpats]

I was looking at the same thing. Unless you live in one those homes, or you are visiting someone, why would anyone drive this road? In those cases, it shouldn't be too difficult to identify the driver/car, right? So maybe thats why they want to find this driver/car, to find out what their business was being there that day?

I've had a closer look on the satellite view and there only seem to be about 14 houses Balfour Valley Road, in 2 different areas, both near the very top.

There are about 4 houses where it meets Sprague Valley Road, but I think the houses where the footage was taken from are from the main 'bunch' of 10 or so houses that are just before where Balfour Valley Road meets Balfour Valley Lane.

So, it won't take much for the police to knock on 14 front doors to ask them if they know someone who drives that car, - or even if recognize it from being in the area before.

 

[Ravenmoon]

Maybe the vehicle was caught on video in 2 different places within a specific time frame .

Perhaps the first video shows a car with no damage and the second ( further down the road) shows that same vehicle with damage.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Maybe the vehicle was caught on video in 2 different places within a specific time frame .

Perhaps the first video shows a car with no damage and the second ( further down the road) shows that same vehicle with damage.

JMO

Can you even imagine? Partner turns his back to chase after the dog and Julie maybe decides she can/should walk home, only to be hit by a car? Not impossible... but to take the time to gather her??? And just drive away fast?

Still it's a viable theory...

Jmo

 

[annpats]

Maybe the vehicle was caught on video in 2 different places within a specific time frame .

Perhaps the first video shows a car with no damage and the second ( further down the road) shows that same vehicle with damage.

JMO

I don't know about damage, do you think Julie may have been accidentally involved in a hit & run accident??

I'm wondering if there are any traffic cameras on state highway 547...it runs through that area from Kendall up to Dumas at the Canadian border.

Be interesting to know where the car headed.

 

[Ravenmoon]

I don't know about damage, do you think Julie may have been accidentally involved in a hit & run accident??

I'm wondering if there are any traffic cameras on state highway 547...it runs through that area from Kendall up to Dumas at the Canadian border.

Be interesting to know where the car headed.

I have no knowledge of the area unfortunately.
Just trying to understand why that particular car seems to be singled out.
Maybe they struck her and they picked her up?
Could she have succumbed to injuries while in the car and they panicked?
I have no idea at all, just speculating why this vehicle may be involved or have information.

JMO