Found Deceased WA - Kassanndra Cantrell, 33, pregnant, possibly went shopping, Parkland, 25 Aug 2020

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  • #341
"In a missing person case, as a matter of cooperation, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will, at the request of a state or local law enforcement agency, make available the facilities of the FBI Identification Division and the FBI Laboratory.

Information pertaining to certain categories of missing persons, including missing children, may be entered into the missing person file of the FBI operated National Crime Information Center (NCIC) by the local law enforcement agencies and, since passage of the Missing Children Act (Pub. L. 97-272, amending, 28 U.S.C. § 534), by parents of missing children if the local law enforcement agency will not do so."

[cited in JM 9-60.100]

1035. FBI Assistance in Missing Persons Cases

And more from the FBI on when it gets involved in cases, including the interstate component (which we can't be sure of here?):

Frequently Asked Questions — FBI
 
  • #342
If she had driven to his house to meet with him, he possibly used her car to move her before dumping it 1.2 mi from his house. If this is what happened, it's possible they found something in her car, like blood smearing in the trunk? Giving them the search warrant wherein they found copious amounts of blood evidence in the home? I think anything less would not warrant the FBI?
I'm expecting an arrest very soon, moo.
 
  • #343
I may have missed something. Is there a video of him driving her car that morning or are you saying "IF" he is on video driving her car?

Continuing in use of the conditional per if... and what would be needed. I haven't heard anything about a video apart from the LE actively seeking them and collecting video from that area.
https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs
 
  • #344
Ryan Simms[URL='https://twitter.com/RyanKIRO7']@RyanKIRO7[/URL]
#Breaking: authorities say they’re now treating Kassandra Cantrell case as homicide even though no body has been found. They say they are searching the home of Cantrell’s ex-boyfriend, who is believed to have had contact with her recently. Deputies say he IS a person of interest

 
  • #345
Still very very interested by the FBI being involved, and what that means for this case? I feel like it's moving quickly and the work being done by LE is excellent (esp. with Troyer added)...
Well the Sheriff himself stated that the FBI was there because they have the forensic expertise and equipment, after a reporter asked why FBI was there.
 
  • #346
Ryan Simms@RyanKIRO7
#Breaking: authorities say they’re now treating Kassandra Cantrell case as homicide even though no body has been found. They say they are searching the home of Cantrell’s ex-boyfriend, who is believed to have had contact with her recently. Deputies say he IS a person of interest


MOO. This makes me think they have the phone or texts records arranging a meeting.
 
  • #347
"In a missing person case, as a matter of cooperation, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will, at the request of a state or local law enforcement agency, make available the facilities of the FBI Identification Division and the FBI Laboratory.

Information pertaining to certain categories of missing persons, including missing children, may be entered into the missing person file of the FBI operated National Crime Information Center (NCIC) by the local law enforcement agencies and, since passage of the Missing Children Act (Pub. L. 97-272, amending, 28 U.S.C. § 534), by parents of missing children if the local law enforcement agency will not do so."

[cited in JM 9-60.100]

1035. FBI Assistance in Missing Persons Cases

And more from the FBI on when it gets involved in cases, including the interstate component (which we can't be sure of here?):

Frequently Asked Questions — FBI
Yes, they also get involved when there is an interstate component. It doesn't seem like that's the case here but I guess you never know. I got the impression they were not leading the investigation, but assisting. Imo
 
  • #348
Ryan Simms@RyanKIRO7
We’re seeing @FBI agents in protective gear walk back and forth between the front and back yards. They’re taking pictures and seem to be cataloguing certain things.
@PCSO1 will be giving @KIRO7Seattle an update on this situation at around 10:30 this morning.
 
  • #349
MOO. This makes me think they have the phone or texts records arranging a meeting.
That's what I'm thinking. They must have something solid that led LE to the house so quickly. I wonder who initiated the meeting, if that's the case. Imo
 
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Thanks for sharing this as I missed it earlier due to work.
I like how this officer speaks-- he gives a bit more detail than some others I have listened to but also careful to not say too much.
Praying Kassanndra is found soon !!!
 
  • #351
To be fair, the area around 38th wasn’t and still isn’t exactly... great. Promise you’ll find more than a bra if you drive down Hosmer. And parkland is a hot spot for gangs. However, that does not matter to home buyers as Tacoma has become number 1 in the housing market.

Anyway, it sounds hopeful they found some sort of lead. Still a very sad situation.
 
  • #352
Here's a map of important locations. It helps me sort my head. Let me know if/when I should add things.
Kassandra Cantell - خرائطي على Google
Reposted the map that spiritseeker31 posted.
The Sheriff also stated that there were searches, or at least investigations going on elsewhere. I wonder if there's a team at that Pt. Defiance area.
Are there cliffs I wonder? Phone likely was tossed over the edge into the water imo. What about wooded areas?
Also wonder about cameras on the way. Possibly his truck, or Kassanndra's car, was seen going there that day.....maybe the "probable cause" pt. in the search warrant.
 
  • #353
Regarding the verification that she is pregnant. The place that does the ultrasound, would they need a doctor to schedule that or can an individual schedule it? I don't see Kassanndra faking a pregnancy, jmo, especially with a bd that has made it clear he doesn't want kids. I think she was pregnant and wanted to have the baby - she probably was hopeful that he would change his mind and be an involved father. He saw it as a trap, nothing he wanted in life and he was facing long time financial obligations.
Not sure if she would need her Dr. referral for ultrasound or not-- I think it depends on health insurance policy, if she had one.
I know my insurance required a referral from my OB/GYN and my OB scheduled my ultrasounds.
Of course, that was many years ago also :)
 
  • #354
Ryan Simms@RyanKIRO7
We’re seeing @FBI agents in protective gear walk back and forth between the front and back yards. They’re taking pictures and seem to be cataloguing certain things.
@PCSO1 will be giving @KIRO7Seattle an update on this situation at around 10:30 this morning.
Wow, they had been at the scene all night. Sounds like something horrible happened in that home. Poor Kassanndra. Her family must be devastated.
 
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Not sure if she would need her Dr. referral for ultrasound or not-- I think it depends on health insurance policy, if she had one.
I know my insurance required a referral from my OB/GYN and my OB scheduled my ultrasounds.
Of course, that was many years ago also :)
I wonder why they haven't confirmed the pregnancy yet. Maybe it just takes time to get access to her medical records.
 
  • #357
Such a sad case, but a few things I haven't seen discussed before, and which might potentially be important arent clear to me:

-Why did Kassanndra as being an 33 yo live with her mom and step dad? Just because they all wanted too or did she recently lose her job/house or something?
-The pregnancy hasn't been confirmed by any medical professional right? Can this (potentially fake) pregnancy have been used to get someone to be together with her? Like blackmail or a desperate action to get someone to fall in love with her?
-Why the does the possibility of twins keep being mentioned if she didn't have any ultrasounds before? What makes her think it might be twins? I don't think there has been IVF procedure or anything related which increases the chances of having multiples.
-Is the house being searched the potential baby daddies, or does an ex boyfriend from longer ago live there?
 
  • #358
I feel it would be so incredibly hard to attempt to pull off faking pregnancy when you're so close with your twin brother and live with your parents. moo

Such a sad case, but a few things I haven't seen discussed before, and which might potentially be important arent clear to me:

-Why did Kassanndra as being an 33 yo live with her mom and step dad? Just because they all wanted too or did she recently lose her job/house or something?
-The pregnancy hasn't been confirmed by any medical professional right? Can this (potentially fake) pregnancy have been used to get someone to be together with her? Like blackmail or a desperate action to get someone to fall in love with her?
-Why the does the possibility of twins keep being mentioned if she didn't have any ultrasounds before? What makes her think it might be twins? I don't think there has been IVF procedure or anything related which increases the chances of having multiples.
-Is the house being searched the potential baby daddies, or does an ex boyfriend from longer ago live there?
2 out of 4 answers to your questions:
it sounds like the father/ex are one and the same and that's the house the FBI are searching.

having twins runs in her family, she and her brother are twins.
 
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  • #359
Such a sad case, but a few things I haven't seen discussed before, and which might potentially be important arent clear to me:

-Why did Kassanndra as being an 33 yo live with her mom and step dad? Just because they all wanted too or did she recently lose her job/house or something?
-The pregnancy hasn't been confirmed by any medical professional right? Can this (potentially fake) pregnancy have been used to get someone to be together with her? Like blackmail or a desperate action to get someone to fall in love with her?
-Why the does the possibility of twins keep being mentioned if she didn't have any ultrasounds before? What makes her think it might be twins? I don't think there has been IVF procedure or anything related which increases the chances of having multiples.
-Is the house being searched the potential baby daddies, or does an ex boyfriend from longer ago live there?
The twin thing...she is a twin with her brother, no? So fraternal twins is hereditary and maybe she was showing more than she should and/or her blood test had high HCG levels.
 
  • #360
Suzanne Phan[URL='https://twitter.com/SuzannePhan']@SuzannePhan[/URL]
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Family say Kassandra Cantrell was 3 months pregnant when she disappeared. She missed her ultrasound appointment last week. #KomoNews

I did note in the pressor today, Troyer said they are in the process of verifying KC is pregnant, he mentioned something about his team getting her records today. Just a formality, as I'm sure she is.

I'm still having difficulty understanding how the POI did not think all of this was going to point directly back to him o_O
I guess it could have been a heat of passion thing, where maybe things just got out of control? Because if it was planned, it was a pretty poor one.
 
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