Found Deceased WA - Kassanndra Cantrell, 33, pregnant, possibly went shopping, Parkland, 25 Aug 2020

[pinkie60]

Sorry - I think it was @Seattle1 who suggested the breakfast restaurant possibility. Yeah the nature cliff possibility makes sense definitely and certainly seemed to be an LE focus. I just thought the restaurant/coffee shop idea was an an interesting avenue for sightings/ timeline that may not have been explored and unless there are updates/ suggestions from LE, the friends and family volunteer searchers might want to think about canvassing those places too.

Yes. They should check restaurants and coffee shops in the area. There might be video surveillance or maybe too late now IDK

 

[pinkie60]

Sorry - I think it was @Seattle1 who suggested the breakfast restaurant possibility. Yeah the nature cliff possibility makes sense definitely and certainly seemed to be an LE focus. I just thought the restaurant/coffee shop idea was an an interesting avenue for sightings/ timeline that may not have been explored and unless there are updates/ suggestions from LE, the friends and family volunteer searchers might want to think about canvassing those places too.

Yes. They should check restaurants and coffee shops in the area. There might be video surveillance or maybe too late now IDK

 

[pinkie60]

With Kassanndra pregnant and Covid - I don’t think it would be an indoor sit down restaurant. Perhaps a quick meet up at an outdoor coffee shop. Or a place they would usually meet up or had met previously.
I’m wondering why Kassanndra didn’t tell her mom where she was going.
JMO

Being she didn’t tell her mom where she was going is kind of a clue to where she was going. Her mother would object to her meeting him She didn’t like him

 

[pinkie60]

I sense this situation is similar to the disappearance of Heather Elvis. Being she was so nicely dressed , I wonder if he did invite her out for breakfast.

 

[bestill]

I sense this situation is similar to the disappearance of Heather Elvis. Being she was so nicely dressed , I wonder if he did invite her out for breakfast.

I hope not, but I am getting the same feeling and Heather has never been found. I remember it taking nearly 2 months before LE could do the search of the M's property and that was with Tammy Moorer taunting LE, the Elvis family and the community - this gives me hope that they have more to go on with this POI. Also the Moorer's never did turn on each other, I'm hopeful that in this case that if there are others someone will turn on the guilty party.

 

[Sticksandspades]

Thanks. I can't tell where the house is on the map but I was wondering if the phone could have been near the home when it pinged, if it was only a few miles away. LE must have had a reason to search the park so they must know the phone was last in that area. Imo

The BD house is just 'under' the pin for the possible witness. Have we confirmed if the police presence/search at Wapato Park was in fact related to this case?

 

[Skullfire]

I remember in the beginning it being said that they checked and there was no recent call text or email activity. This part really bothers me personally. unless it’s work related I ALWAYS text to check in to make sure “we’re still on for today” So it really leaves me to wonder if she got up her courage and just showed up, with her pregnancy test, to announce the big news. If this is bad news to someone, I can see them flying off the handle in a panic/rage/fear of how this will “ruin” their lives or relationship.

Having a lot of trouble seeing this as being premeditated as clearly he (and thus also live-in gf) would be numero uno on the list to investigate, she had been seen by several people at the house and of course always the possibility she would tell at least one friend of their tryst? (Granted... we’ve seen people be idiots when they feel their life is caving in though)

Just some thoughts!

Do you have a link to the "no recent call/text/email activity?" part? Does it define what "recent" is? Two days? Two weeks? A month?

I'm looking over the requirements for a search warrant. If its from a magistrate it needs to have probable cause and that needs to be kept on file. If there was no contact, what could be the probable cause?

If there is no contact, I don't see it being premeditated as well. You would have to be a complete idiot to park a car less then two miles from both your work and home and hope to get away with it. Tacoma is a big city. I don't know if "better" places is the term I would use but there are less suspicious spots or out of the way places.

I sense this situation is similar to the disappearance of Heather Elvis. Being she was so nicely dressed , I wonder if he did invite her out for breakfast.

Wow. No body found. Lovers triangle. They traced the phones movements. Thats what Im hoping they could do to all three phones (KC/BD/BDGF) and find something.

 

[keldorn]

The BD most likely could have a work cell phone, and given the reported nature of his line of work, allegedly could have accessed work/company vehicles as well.
Access to storage facilities, whether personal or company should be looked at as well.

 

[Seattle1]

Yes. They should check restaurants and coffee shops in the area. There might be video surveillance or maybe too late now IDK

I sense this situation is similar to the disappearance of Heather Elvis. Being she was so nicely dressed , I wonder if he did invite her out for breakfast.

When I learned KC was last seen leaving her family home around 8:30 AM, Pt Defiance Park was being searched, and her phone last pinged a tower on Vashon Island, that's about 5 hours time-span. Cooks Tavern opens at 8AM for breakfast and outdoor/indoor COVID ready. I hope this lovely woman had an opportunity for coffee and a bite before somebody disappeared her. (Their salmon cake eggs benedict is heaven).

What I really want to know is when her phone first registered nearing the park neighborhood. If we learn she was separated from her phone by 9AM then this all goes out the window.

Also, for those citing that witnesses saw KC at BD residence on K St., was this on the day she vanished? TIA.

MOO

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article245380220.html

 

[MoeInVA]

Cooks Tavern opens at 8AM for breakfast and outdoor/indoor COVID ready. I hope this lovely woman had an opportunity for coffee and a bite before somebody disappeared her. (Their salmon cake eggs benedict is heaven).

What I really want to know is when her phone first registered nearing the park neighborhood. If we learn she was separated from her phone by 9AM then this all goes out the window.

Also, for those citing that witnesses saw KC at BD residence on K St., was this on the day she vanished? TIA.

MOO

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article245380220.html

In response to your question about the witnesses, I am aware of two.
1) a neighbor interviewed on one of the TV news broadcasts during the search said that he saw KC at the house that was searched once. He said it was only once. On the broadcast he did not say what day that was. I believe it may have been reported that it was not the day she vanished but I am not sure about that. My impression: neighbor’s demeanor suggested that it was further in the past JMO, but you never know because she had already been missing a week at that point. The point was more that he had seen her there before and less about fitting any kind of timeline. JMO
2) In the tv news pieces about the volunteer search party (9/3?) the search party reported finding a possible witness who could play a role in filling CK’s timeline. This is the possible witness marked on the map at Lincoln Park, because that’s the area where the search party was based and we know it was a resident of that area but we do not know the exact location. JMO the search party believed this witness may have seen CK or her vehicle on the day she went missing (or possibly in the period before her vehicle was found). There were two different broadcasts/ videos on this news nugget from the same reporter. This is one of them: Volunteers look for clues in case of missing pregnant Tacoma woman

 

[MsBetsy]

The BD house is just 'under' the pin for the possible witness. Have we confirmed if the police presence/search at Wapato Park was in fact related to this case?

I don't know about Wapato Park. I've only read about the two day search in Point Defiance Park based on where the phone pinged.

I don't think LE obtained a search warrant just to question witnesses at the boyfriend's house. They must have had enough probable cause to point to his being connected to her disappearance. Whatever evidence they found in those first few days must have been pretty convincing to get a warrant so fast.

Imo

 

[SeattleStew]

I wrote about the heavy LE presence at Wapato Park. It was information given to me by someone very local with first hand information. As far as I am aware, LE has never spoken of it officially, and I haven't heard anymore information about why they were there, or what they found, if anything.

In the same vein, another local, someone I trust implicitly, relayed to me that a close relative of theirs was at the Tacoma landfill (the dump) this past weekend to dispose of some old construction material. They state that LE was on site, and asked to look inside an old suitcase that was being dumped, in addition to a large tote that was going in the trash. No one there mentioned why or what was being looked for, but Occam's razor makes a good case for an LE investigation. I don't know if it is related to the search for what happened to Kassanndra, but wanted to bring it forward.

 

[pinkie60]

When I learned KC was last seen leaving her family home around 8:30 AM, Pt Defiance Park was being searched, and her phone last pinged a tower on Vashon Island, that's about 5 hours time-span. Cooks Tavern opens at 8AM for breakfast and outdoor/indoor COVID ready. I hope this lovely woman had an opportunity for coffee and a bite before somebody disappeared her. (Their salmon cake eggs benedict is heaven).

What I really want to know is when her phone first registered nearing the park neighborhood. If we learn she was separated from her phone by 9AM then this all goes out the window.

Also, for those citing that witnesses saw KC at BD residence on K St., was this on the day she vanished? TIA.

MOO

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article245380220.html

I believe her phone pinged last just before 1pm aug 25 near Vashon Island

 

[CuriousBystander]

I've seen some slow developing cases, but this is one of the slowest. This is moving at a snails pace.

 

[Bravo]

I've seen some slow developing cases, but this is one of the slowest. This is moving at a snails pace.

Seems so from our end. Yet I have seen many, many cases which took months. Let's hope the case is progressing at LE's end.

 

[MoeInVA]

Seems so from our end. Yet I have seen many, many cases which took months. Let's hope the case is progressing at LE's end.

LE seemed to have every person on call for the fires in this very area this week. The same Pierce County sheriff spokesman was posting about it online. But since the FBI evidence recovery team is involved I hope they picked up some of the slack. Sad and slow.

It is weird to me that they felt the need to use flash bangs, take his truck etc, but then when he disappeared they still didn’t arrest him. Seems like he could be a danger to himself or others. I hope they have found him and that they are keeping tabs so he doesn’t go after witnesses. (That poor neighbor was on tv!)

I saw that the only crime YouTuber I actually like covered the case today and commenters from the town/area had never heard of the case. Color me horrified

 

[Bravo]

I would not be surprised to learn LE is tracking him. I didn't hear the exact part of the Presser speaking to the guys whereabouts. Could it have been phrased that" he" himself didn't know where he was? Meaning that he is just not privy to that info since he isn't involved in that part of the investigation. Pondering points here. Thanks Moe for the above info. IMO they went in with flash bangs as they had info there were weapons in the house. MOO
ETA- and/or that Kassandra could have possibly been held at the house

 

[spiritseeker31]

This probably doesn't matter in the long run, but then again, I believe it shows she had set plans:

I think a few folks have misconstrued KC's 'dressing up' before leaving the morning she went missing. From her mother's words (below), I got the impression that it was not heels and dress clothes, but more a cleanliness aspect. Mom wasn't sure what she was wearing only that she actually took some extra time in getting ready. KC didn't just throw her hail in a pony tail and leave like she would when grocery shopping. She took a few minutes to jump in the shower and probably throw some makeup on. Jeans and a tshirt still could have been worn.

Mom also stated that she accidentally woke Kassandra up at 7:30. I do wonder if she had woken at that time on purpose so she could get ready as soon as mom left the house. IMO It appears to me she was meeting.....someone....at 9am (previously arranged). If I put myself in her shoes, it would have been at a less populated park area. I can think of several here - I live on the edge of a national park.

Frantic search for pregnant woman who vanished just before her first ultrasound, abandoning her car
“Everything seemed to indicate she was going to see somebody, because if she was going to the grocery store, she would’ve just put her hair in a ponytail and put on some jeans and headed out,” Smith said. “But it was clear she’d taken a shower and gotten dressed. She had taken some extra time, she doesn’t do that just to go grocery shopping.”

Just my thoughts since nothing is going on that we can see.

 

[MoeInVA]

I would not be surprised to learn LE is tracking him. I didn't hear the exact part of the Presser speaking to the guys whereabouts. Could it have been phrased that" he" himself didn't know where he was? Meaning that he is just not privy to that info since he isn't involved in that part of the investigation. Pondering points here. Thanks Moe for the above info. IMO they went in with flash bangs as they had info there were weapons in the house. MOO
ETA- and/or that Kassandra could have possibly been held at the house

FYI - the poi location was known during the search (he was there for flash bangs and sheriff spox said he was at another residence as they searched the next day). But by the next night when they finished the search, tv news reported that LE didn’t know his location. This was approximately the evening of sept 2nd. You can look up my poi timeline up thread. Other stations reported at same time that poi was not cooperating. No LE updates on POI status since then. I hope it was a ruse to help the investigation. I hope he is tracked.
ETA this wasn’t part of a press briefing on camera so we only have the one tv news report. (Family social media echoed this though) No direct quotes or on camera. Plus the multiple reports of not cooperating. Nothing since then on POI status.

 

[Deleted member 718]

I think the flash bang entry was to prevent evidence from being destroyed. There's no time to smash a hard drive or do a factory reset on a phone. Once the location was secure, a thorough search could wait until morning.