WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #1

[distracted]

The articles keep reporting that Scott Williams is the father of Lindseys friend who she was visiting before she disappeared. Kara is the mom? Different last name? Any info on this Williams guy?

I don't think they are married. On Kara's myspace she says she's "in a relationship" instead of "married". He might not even be the kids' father because the kids have the same last name as Kara.

 

[distracted]

Okay thanks for having a look at it you all. Her behavior just strikes me as bizarre is all. She gives interviews to the media, once in print and now on camera. Someone claiming to be her is posting to ************* as well. That just strikes me as odd. Nothing more honestly but just darn odd.


LE has cleared Lindsey's family. I assume that means her brother too.

Opps didn't know you couldn't type that name SORRY mods :blush:

It's odd body language to me too. Misty (in Haleigh's case) did the same thing when she was being interviewed. I think it shows that she is hiding something. Or, it could just be the overwhelming guilt she feels for not seeing her home safely.

 

[soyesterday]

WHOA. Stop the bus. Can someone have a look at the friend's mother's facial language please?

Yes Lindsey's Mother looks like she's in shock. She looks stunned and she holds herself very still as if she's afraid she's going to lose control IMHO.

What is all that crying going on about with KK?

Do I think she did something to Lindsey? Not at this moment. But her behavior is out of the box. It's so out there, I can't help but turn my attention to her. She may be a red herring, but her behavior is off the charts IMHO. Wonder what's up with that?

Disclaimer:
Ever since S. Smith got on national TV and closed her eyes while she pleaded and whined for the return of her boys, any behavior like that makes the hair on the back of my neck pop up. What's up with the Lindsey "if" you're out there...sorry she's an odd one.

Not only that....
remember when she said the girls weren't allowed to have myspace pages....but yet, she has her own daughter added as a friend....
isn't that a lie then?
i can't get past the friend's mom AT ALL....i don't know why
i'm going to watch the interview now.....

 

[Syttende]

Wow! Lots of new info and interest in this case since last night.

I am happy to see that Lindsey is finally getting national rather than purely local coverage! She deserves it. Even if she's a runaway, which personally I don't believe, she is still endangered.

I hope the Michael Jackson coverage comes to an end... CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. are not tabloids. However tragic it may be, leave the celebrity junk to TMZ. Stories like Lindsey's are in critical need of the exposure.

 

[darlin gal]

Kat - it is odd. I thought the same thing you did when I watched the video. Kara seems to be taking some kind of responsibility for Lindsey, that in my opinion is not her responsibility to take. I have to wonder why. I didn't post anything, because I'm kinda letting the whole thing digest.

I wonder if some of her actions are because she knows Lindsey does not get along with her brother or something. But I'm not sure where I'm going with that. I would definitely like to see this family take the lie detector tests. Something is wrong here!

Salem

I can't view the video on my old computer but I know that from the article she wrote at Associated Content and the posts she has made on various forums, she comes off as racked with guilt. Her daughter and Lindsey were best friends.

Lindsey left her house that night. She sent her home because it was getting late and wanted her to start home before dark.

She blames her self for saying no to her staying the night. She blames herself for not walking Lindsey home. She is doing a lot of "what if'ing".

 

[badme102]

Story on HLN now

 

[momtective]

http://www.myspace.com/angwha Angie Wharton family member who spoke on HLN

 

[Kat]

momtective I missed the HLN interview can you give us a rundown please?

 

[momtective]

momtective I missed the HLN interview can you give us a rundown please?

-Not a lot that we don't already know but one thing they did mention is that she had to walk past the Shell gas station which has surveillance cameras and she was not seen on the surveillance tape.

-Angie said the trouble at home was just normal typical stuff.

-Friends house was 4 blocks away from Lindsey's house.

-Using heat seeking planes to search.

 

[audiogirl]

WHOA. Stop the bus. Can someone have a look at the friend's mother's facial language please?

Yes Lindsey's Mother looks like she's in shock. She looks stunned and she holds herself very still as if she's afraid she's going to lose control IMHO.

What is all that crying going on about with KK?

Do I think she did something to Lindsey? Not at this moment. But her behavior is out of the box. It's so out there, I can't help but turn my attention to her. She may be a red herring, but her behavior is off the charts IMHO. Wonder what's up with that?

Disclaimer:
Ever since S. Smith got on national TV and closed her eyes while she pleaded and whined for the return of her boys, any behavior like that makes the hair on the back of my neck pop up. What's up with the Lindsey "if" you're out there...sorry she's an odd one.

I agree with you 100%! Something is VERY offish about her demeanor during that interview!

 

[MCDRAW]

I am getting a very uneasy feeling about her visiting her friend.

Who was at the home when she arrived? Who was there when she left? Did anyone leave the home right behind her? Did she actually leave on her own?

My hinky meter is tacking....big time!!!

I wonder why they didn't drive her home or walk her home since it was close to getting dark. I live in a safe little town where everyone knows everyone and most are kin. But I always walk or drive kids home.JMO

 

[darlin gal]

As the mother of Lindsey's best friend or BFF, as they sometimes refer to each other, my heart breaks for the talkative little girl who use to love to chat my ear off as I sat at my computer and for her mom who is trying to digest the fact that her little girl has been gone for nearly 48 hours. One just cannot understand the feelings of grief; hope and the guilt brought on by the million "what ifs" that play through your mind constantly as the time ticks by.

We've been interviewed by police officers, detectives, FBI agents and news stations and it is crushing as a parent to not be able to help in some way and to keep hearing that there are no new leads and no new information.

I've personally barely slept and at times am borderline hysterical I cannot imagine how this situation must feel to her mom who is the sole provider and caretaker to Lindsey and her brother. Thankfully she has some family and friends who are with her to help provide support until Lindsey is found and brought home.

Lindsey Baum was last seen when she left our house Friday night while it was still light outside after walking my daughter home from her house. It seemed like a typical Friday night but that changed an hour later when I got the call from her mom that she never made it home. Looking back on that night I am haunted by the sound of my daughter asking if Lindsey can stay the night and me saying "no", it echo's in my mind relentlessly. If only I had said "Yes" if only one of a million other things had been different that night Lindsey would probably be sitting at my house or at her house with my daughter doing things that most 10 year old girls enjoy at this very minute.

(snipped)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1890148/lindsey_baum_10_missing_from_mccleary.html?cat=9

 

[MCDRAW]

The MySpace accounts don't surprise me - I too think Twilight is a little iffy for a 10-year-old's favorite reading material, but it really is what they're all reading right now. I've seen people on other boards horrified that she claims to like Stephen King and Twilight and saying that horror stories aren't for 10-year-olds, but it wasn't that long ago that the Goosebumps series (which, granted, isn't Stephen King) was THE biggest reading material for upper-elementary school kids. I'm guessing that Lindsay made her page with her mom's consent, since her mom is her MySpace friend, but I know for a fact that a lot of kids have them (even below the legal age of 13) without their parents knowing - technically, MySpace and Facebook are blocked by the computers at my school and the middle school where I used to teach, but the kids have some kind of sixth sense for getting around the proxy servers and getting to the websites anyway. The school librarians had their hands full keeping kids from logging on to social networking sites from library computers during lunches - it's sort of sad that it's not enough for a parent to be vigilant in guarding their at-home Internet activities, because if a kid really WANTS to do it, they're going to find a way regardless.

I'm glad LE is monitoring the MySpace pages, though; I'm still hoping that the post from a few days ago about her possibly running off to another friend's house is true.

I know it's true about if kid's want one they find a way. I wouldn't let my son have one so he had a friend make him one using the friends email address. I never could get it deleted even when I asked Myspace to delete it. The poor kid could never log on but he could say he had one.

 

[lonetraveler]

OT: I know what you mean, jnT! I recently bought "Horary Astrology Plain & Simple," and it's NOT too simple! :crazy:

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I second your post. I feel very mentally challenged every time I read on the Astrology thread, I just keep reading until someone interprets what is being posted. :crazy:

 

[defender123]

I thought I saw that the brother is 12. Will look for it.
This was in the news today.

“This isn’t supposed to happen to me,” Baum said. “This doesn’t happen. I know it’s not my fault. But I feel guilty. Why didn’t I automatically go with her? My 12-year-old son thinks it’s his fault because they had a minor argument. But it all falls on the person who took her.”

It is at the bottom of the article.
http://www.thedailyworld.com/articles/2009/06/30/local_news/doc4a4a53f8addf4694664243.txt

 

[A_Closer_Look]

I don't mean to insinuate anything by this, just that it crossed my mind is all...

Small town, little girl walks to friends house only to be sent right home a few minutes later, halfway home vanishes, friends mom who sent her home is very talkative about it... I'm waiting to hear about some luggage in the driveway and a family church.

I hate that I wrote that actually... but it's eerily similar, no? It just seems to get more and more similar daily!

I'm not saying that I suspect this friends mom or anything (yet), just that it's similar is all....

 

[mistivon]

absolutely, I was just thinking the EXACT same thing.
Sorry, esp if they are truly innocent, but if the friends mom or the other guy living there (whoever he is), drove by Lindsey..said "Hey, you know what, I'll go ahead and drive you home, it is getting dark", I strongly doubt she would have even hesitated about going in.
I'd like to know about any cars going in front of those business that time of night. If indeed there was a bus stop right there, maybe the bus driver should also be interviewed.
Lastly, does anyone have a map of the area...where she was, where she lived, and where she was last seen, in addition to where the bus station/shell was that she apparently didn't make it to?

 

[Kat]

As the mother of Lindsey's best friend or BFF, as they sometimes refer to each other, my heart breaks for the talkative little girl who use to love to chat my ear off as I sat at my computer and for her mom who is trying to digest the fact that her little girl has been gone for nearly 48 hours. One just cannot understand the feelings of grief; hope and the guilt brought on by the million "what ifs" that play through your mind constantly as the time ticks by.

We've been interviewed by police officers, detectives, FBI agents and news stations and it is crushing as a parent to not be able to help in some way and to keep hearing that there are no new leads and no new information.

I've personally barely slept and at times am borderline hysterical I cannot imagine how this situation must feel to her mom who is the sole provider and caretaker to Lindsey and her brother. Thankfully she has some family and friends who are with her to help provide support until Lindsey is found and brought home.

Lindsey Baum was last seen when she left our house Friday night while it was still light outside after walking my daughter home from her house. It seemed like a typical Friday night but that changed an hour later when I got the call from her mom that she never made it home. Looking back on that night I am haunted by the sound of my daughter asking if Lindsey can stay the night and me saying "no", it echo's in my mind relentlessly. If only I had said "Yes" if only one of a million other things had been different that night Lindsey would probably be sitting at my house or at her house with my daughter doing things that most 10 year old girls enjoy at this very minute.

(snipped)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1890148/lindsey_baum_10_missing_from_mccleary.html?cat=9

Yes I read that interview. It's been posted here a couple of times. Yes I think we are aware that this woman has been interviewed by LE and FBI.

Has LE or the FBI cleared her? Just curious.

I, as of right ,now think her behavior is odd. That's all. Plain and simply odd.

Could she be wracked by guilt? Yes she could. Could she be thinking that she's helping by going and posting on the internet at crime discussion boards? Yes she could.

Just odd to me is all. I don't know what happened to Lindsey, I don't have a theory at this time. So I'm going to continue to keep KK in the corner of my eye. She's not on my radar though as to have had something to do with the disappearance of Lindsey. JMHO.

 

[defender123]

What worries me the most is (not to be gloom and doom) but it is only 40.9 miles from where Nancy Moyer went missing in March 2009.
I hope we don't have a nut on the loose.

 

[A_Closer_Look]

absolutely, I was just thinking the EXACT same thing.
Sorry, esp if they are truly innocent, but if the friends mom or the other guy living there (whoever he is), drove by Lindsey..said "Hey, you know what, I'll go ahead and drive you home, it is getting dark", I strongly doubt she would have even hesitated about going in.
I'd like to know about any cars going in front of those business that time of night. If indeed there was a bus stop right there, maybe the bus driver should also be interviewed.
Lastly, does anyone have a map of the area...where she was, where she lived, and where she was last seen, in addition to where the bus station/shell was that she apparently didn't make it to?

That's a really good point, and I am sure the FBI are all over this, but just because Lindsey isn't seen on the surveillance cameras doesn't mean whoever is responsible, or their vehicle isn't seen on the footage.

With a town this small, somebody had to have seen something... something of relevance has to be on that footage.