Found Deceased WA - Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, found dead, manhunt on for father, Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025 #2

[KonaHonu]

Seems to me if he intended to take his life, he would have done so soon after the killings, meaning he would have been found. Either he's really, really good at being off-grid, or he's elsewhere.

I think people overestimate the difficulty of living off the grid or evading. People here in Hawaii do it all the time, and yes, many evade police for years, work under-the-table jobs, and so forth. Admittedly we don't see the kind of manhunt Washington is doing.

This guy was trained in evasion and survival against an enemy with high tech gear looking for him. He would know the techniques searchers use and how to evade them.

Some Japanese soldiers evaded capture for years, almost 3 decades in one example, after WWII. It can be done.

I think he slipped out of the perimeter early on and is now someplace with a mild climate where people don't ask a lot of questions, possibly with a new identity and a completely different appearance.

 

[Trino]

I think people overestimate the difficulty of living off the grid or evading. People here in Hawaii do it all the time, and yes, many evade police for years, work under-the-table jobs, and so forth. Admittedly we don't see the kind of manhunt Washington is doing.

This guy was trained in evasion and survival against an enemy with high tech gear looking for him. He would know the techniques searchers use and how to evade them.

Some Japanese soldiers evaded capture for years, almost 3 decades in one example, after WWII. It can be done.

I think he slipped out of the perimeter early on and is now someplace with a mild climate where people don't ask a lot of questions, possibly with a new identity and a completely different appearance.

Northern Minnesota has individuals living off grid. Not a lot, but they are there.

 

[KonaHonu]

Northern Minnesota has individuals living off grid. Not a lot, but they are there.

I believe it. And living up there, especially in the winter would be a lot tougher than someplace like, say, Nevada, New Mexico, or Texas.

 

[Boxer]

RS&B&RedBM

I agree with both of you. Put these two possible facts together, and one could explain, NOT EXCUSE, TD's alleged horrific and evil act of killing his daughters in a most brutal way, since the fear of abandonment can be quite pronounced in BPD, leading to self destructive and rage responses.

Mayo Clinic: "People with borderline personality disorder have a strong fear of abandonment or being left alone. Even though they want to have loving and lasting relationships, the fear of being abandoned often leads to mood swings and anger. It also leads to impulsiveness and self-injury that may push others away."

And of course the question remains, did TD end his life after his alleged crime because he was in an acute state of dysregulation (e.g. psychotic episode), or was TD's mind cogent enough to plan an escape out of the area with a 3-day head start?

IMO.
ETA: to last sentence.

I agree there can be some tracking backwards on how this specific killer came to be the horrible child murderer he is, but there are many, many people suffering from just as grievous and or worse conditions of paranoia and personality disorder diagnosis etc. who do not murder or hurt anyone for rejection etc. its always a moral choice.

 

[Nikynoo]

RS&B&RedBM

I agree with both of you. Put these two possible facts together, and one could explain, NOT EXCUSE, TD's alleged horrific and evil act of killing his daughters in a most brutal way, since the fear of abandonment can be quite pronounced in BPD, leading to self destructive and rage responses.

Mayo Clinic: "People with borderline personality disorder have a strong fear of abandonment or being left alone. Even though they want to have loving and lasting relationships, the fear of being abandoned often leads to mood swings and anger. It also leads to impulsiveness and self-injury that may push others away."

And of course the question remains, did TD end his life after his alleged crime because he was in an acute state of dysregulation (e.g. psychotic episode), or was TD's mind cogent enough to plan an escape out of the area with a 3-day head start?

IMO.
ETA: to last sentence.

I am not qualified in a professional sense to discuss this, I can only relate to being a parent of a child with BPD. In my experience the rage state is usually followed by self harm.

 

[girlhasnoname]

RS&B&RedBM

I agree with both of you. Put these two possible facts together, and one could explain, NOT EXCUSE, TD's alleged horrific and evil act of killing his daughters in a most brutal way, since the fear of abandonment can be quite pronounced in BPD, leading to self destructive and rage responses.

Mayo Clinic: "People with borderline personality disorder have a strong fear of abandonment or being left alone. Even though they want to have loving and lasting relationships, the fear of being abandoned often leads to mood swings and anger. It also leads to impulsiveness and self-injury that may push others away."

And of course the question remains, did TD end his life after his alleged crime because he was in an acute state of dysregulation (e.g. psychotic episode), or was TD's mind cogent enough to plan an escape out of the area with a 3-day head start?

IMO.
ETA: to last sentence.

Agree, and I believe he was cognizant and obviously mentally functional enough to evade a full blown man hunt by ground and air. IMO, he would not have done that so easily unless, 1) he has killed himself and is in a location they haven't found, or 2) had so prearranged the act and his escape that he was able to take the 3 day head start and leave the area.

TD makes me sick and raging mad. I believe he killed his young daughters to hurt his ex wife because she would not reconcile. I hope they find his remains somewhere and are able to put this to rest. WD (wife) needs answers so she doesn't live in terror of him popping up and doing the same to her one day.

Many combat military vets serve their country through extreme stress and trauma, but do not return home and slaughter their 3 innocent and darling daughters. They more often harm themselves. His diagnosis and whether or not he was on meds be damned. He refused therapy and anger management classes. He does not get any pass from me. He is a danger to others, find him, and punish him to the fullest extent of the law.

3 young lives were taken in brutal fashion by his hand, never allowed to grow up and experience life and become successful, loving young women all because of their own father's actions.

JMO

 

[seasideForest]

Seems to me if he intended to take his life, he would have done so soon after the killings, meaning he would have been found. Either he's really, really good at being off-grid, or he's elsewhere.

Not my idea, I read about it or listened to it somewhere, but he might've taken his life in a tree and has not been found for that reason. Searchers forget to look up.

MOO

 

[seasideForest]

WD (wife) needs answers so she doesn't live in terror of him popping up and doing the same to her one day.

Yes, absolutely agree.

 

[Sundog]

I agree there can be some tracking backwards on how this specific killer came to be the horrible child murderer he is, but there are many, many people suffering from just as grievous and or worse conditions of paranoia and personality disorder diagnosis etc. who do not murder or hurt anyone for rejection etc. its always a moral choice.

There is a lot we don't know, and if Travis Decker was experiencing a psychotic episode, then his actions were not necessarily a moral choice, as recognized by our legal system and based on religious ethics that recognize that moral culpability depends on intentional choice and that a person suffering from a pyschotic episode may not be considered morally responsible for their actions.

 

[Boxer]

There is a lot we don't know, and if Travis Decker was experiencing a psychotic episode, then his actions were not necessarily a moral choice, as recognized by our legal system and based on religious ethics that recognize that moral culpability depends on intentional choice and that a person suffering from a pyschotic episode may not be considered morally responsible for their actions.

Agree, the first episode of the onset schizophrenia is different as the person does not yet know their mind is telling them false information, but MOO after that they know.

 

[Sundog]

Agree, the first episode of the onset schizophrenia is different as the person does not yet know their mind is telling them false information, but MOO after that they know.

I'll have to leave that to the experts to figure out, but I do know that a person will do some terrible things to his or her family if the voices tell them to do it, and although they can be lucid at times, the voices are in charge. He could be running and still be in a psychotic state. It is a tragic situation all around, and there is so much we don't know, and may never know.

 

[RedHaus]

Anyone else wonder if the active shooter situation in Coeur d'Alene, ID, in the west Idaho mountains is at all related to TD? I am curious if the FBI is considering this remote possibility as well.

The location is about a 3 day walk from Leavenworth, WA. There is report of a high-powered automatic weapon. LE does not know if there is more than one suspect. Two people are dead. There are reports of active sniper shooting. LE orders are to neutralize the threat.

This of course could be completely unrelated to TD. But what if TD remains in a psychotic state, has engaged in a battleground fight with first responders, has such a firearm, had sniper training in the army, headed east with his 3-day head start, and now seeks death by cop.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Anyone else wonder if the active shooter situation in Coeur d'Alene, ID, in the west Idaho mountains is at all related to TD? I am curious if the FBI is considering this remote possibility as well.

The location is about a 3 day walk from Leavenworth, WA. There is report of a high-powered automatic weapon. LE does not know if there is more than one suspect. Two people are dead. There are reports of active sniper shooting. LE orders are to neutralize the threat.

This of course could be completely unrelated to TD. But what if TD remains in a psychotic state, has engaged in a battleground fight with first responders, has such a firearm, had sniper training in the army, headed east with his 3-day head start, and now seeks death by cop.

Have not had a chance to get up to speed on Coeur d’Alene but my first thought was wondering if it was connected to this case.

I just want all the violence to stop!

 

[technicallymissing]

Anyone else wonder if the active shooter situation in Coeur d'Alene, ID, in the west Idaho mountains is at all related to TD? I am curious if the FBI is considering this remote possibility as well.

The location is about a 3 day walk from Leavenworth, WA. There is report of a high-powered automatic weapon. LE does not know if there is more than one suspect. Two people are dead. There are reports of active sniper shooting. LE orders are to neutralize the threat.

This of course could be completely unrelated to TD. But what if TD remains in a psychotic state, has engaged in a battleground fight with first responders, has such a firearm, had sniper training in the army, headed east with his 3-day head start, and now seeks death by cop.

I've only been checking in with the TD case sporadically so not sure where they're currently looking for him though last I recall reading was getting the vibe from LE that he could be almost anywhere... all to say yes, he was my first thought when seeing news of the unfolding nightmare in Coeur d'Alene! He has certainly already proved himself willing to commit detailed plans of deeply horrifying evil. That said there are plenty of crazies in the world, like you said...

 

[cosmic-entity]

I think people overestimate the difficulty of living off the grid or evading. People here in Hawaii do it all the time, and yes, many evade police for years, work under-the-table jobs, and so forth. Admittedly we don't see the kind of manhunt Washington is doing.

This guy was trained in evasion and survival against an enemy with high tech gear looking for him. He would know the techniques searchers use and how to evade them.

Some Japanese soldiers evaded capture for years, almost 3 decades in one example, after WWII. It can be done.

I think he slipped out of the perimeter early on and is now someplace with a mild climate where people don't ask a lot of questions, possibly with a new identity and a completely different appearance.

I suspect that the overestimation comes from the fact that many people today are addicted to the internet. Some people could never fathom abandoning their expensive tech and living without it or buying a burner. Of course, I mean no negativity towards those people, I do understand that the internet is important in this day and age.

 

[wvmoonangel]

Anyone else wonder if the active shooter situation in Coeur d'Alene, ID, in the west Idaho mountains is at all related to TD? I am curious if the FBI is considering this remote possibility as well.

The location is about a 3 day walk from Leavenworth, WA. There is report of a high-powered automatic weapon. LE does not know if there is more than one suspect. Two people are dead. There are reports of active sniper shooting. LE orders are to neutralize the threat.

This of course could be completely unrelated to TD. But what if TD remains in a psychotic state, has engaged in a battleground fight with first responders, has such a firearm, had sniper training in the army, headed east with his 3-day head start, and now seeks death by cop.

That was my first thought when I saw the breaking news cause it is a possibility. If it is him maybe he figured they were about to capture him and tried to kill as many officers as he could.

 

[Boxer]

That was my first thought when I saw the breaking news cause it is a possibility. If it is him maybe he figured they were about to capture him and tried to kill as many officers as he could.

That was my first thought when I saw the breaking news cause it is a possibility. If it is him maybe he figured they were about to capture him and tried to kill as many officers as he could.

Agree. It is so outlandish to be shooting firefighters at a distance, it well could be the same person.

 

[Trino]

Agree. It is so outlandish to be shooting firefighters at a distance, it well could be the same person.

Why would anyone shoot firefighters going about their jobs? Bizarre. Sounds like a lone shooter. LE says no link to Decker, but it's early in the firefighter investigation.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Why would anyone shoot firefighters going about their jobs? Bizarre. Sounds like a lone shooter. LE says no link to Decker, but it's early in the firefighter investigation.

Sounds like active shooting is over. Unclear if the cases are related. Presser at 9.30p PT.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

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