NOT GUILTY WA - Parents try to kidnap daughter over forced marriage - November 3, 2024 (NG of attempted murder; Guilty of lesser charges)

[Charlot123]

Now that we have discussed the girl’s name…

What do we do with an obviously unfit father who allegedly makes his autistic son eat feces as punishment for encopresis?

This is neither cultural nor religious. This is madness and where is the CPS?

 

[IQuestion]

CHARLOT123 Excellent question! But, I believe the boys were taken out of state to Canada. And, depending on his level of development, may not be able to communicate what has happened to him.
I believe every word FA said in regards to the abuse. You know why? Because she didn't just say,
"He was mean." She was able to tell the "who, what, when, where and why" of the abuse. As dis-
gusting as it was to share, she related it in total detail. And just as horrifying, IA telling them to turn up the TV so the neighbors wouldn't hear the screams when he was about to "go off." She also said the abuse began "after" the death of the young sister. She can tie the changes in his behavior to a significant life event, his sweet little girl dying of cancer. (The death of one's child is tragic...many manage to find a way to cope...some never do. It can be emotional crippling...short fused rage?)
This is not FA's fault and I hope she knows that.
ZA, The Queen of Denial (Claims this is all attributable to daughter's "teenage" angst. Imagine that?) The comments from the former FBI agent are enlightening, to say the least. You may want may want to skip the first 30 seconds because it is video of the attack.

Zahraa Ali Leaves Jail With Message For Daughter Fatima

Court TV's cameras were there as Zahraa Ali was released from jail after she was found not guilty of her daughter's attempted murder.

www.courttv.com

 

[Charlot123]

If I’m not mistaken there has been one or two members here who live in the area and confirmed that it is typical of the area. There was also mention of the judge being woke. ‘Being open to and respecting other cultures’. What a disservice to the victims.

I am woke but hey, explaining the father beating up his daughter and choking her up to near-death by "cultural or religious circumstances" does nothing but stigmatizes the said cultures or religions!

Do true woke people really believe that all Muslims or all Iraquis do it?

Because no, it is IA being totally mad and probably, untreated psychiatrically.

 

[Snoopster]

This is from one perspective. We don't know how Fatima and/or her parents pronounced her name.

I've worked with many foreigners and when I asked them how they preferred their name to be pronounced they diplomatically said they didn't care. I'm sure their parents pronounced their name differently than I and my colleagues did, but they just wanted to fit in with us.

Let's move on. Please.

 

[damnitmyradio]

I don't know if the judge 'tied their hands', because I saw no shortage of evidence that the man was trying to kill his daughter.

It was a no-brainer, unless you believe that the state has no say in how you treat your children. I'm guessing that there were a few of those people on the jury and they bullied the rest of the jury into the verdict.

JMO.
I clearly believe that there were many good people on the jury and I thank them for doing the best that they could.

The more I read about this, the more angry I get!
I genuinely cannot fathom why you would know that he choked her unconscious and still say that that wasn't intent to kill...? I thought, did I miss some legal concepts? Do they know something that I don't?

 

[Luna20]

I am woke but hey, explaining the father beating up his daughter and choking her up to near-death by "cultural or religious circumstances" does nothing but stigmatizes the said cultures or religions!

Do true woke people really believe that all Muslims or all Iraquis do it?

Because no, it is IA being totally mad and probably, untreated psychiatrically.

For some reason this judge wanted to be open minded about cultural differences. She ruled against allowing the ‘honor killing-arranged marriage’ in because ‘to her’ it was prejudicial. That was the motive behind IA wanting to kill his daughter! Had that been allowed it would have shown intent. Because without a motive it looks like an assault, or he lost his temper because he was so worried about his daughter. The jury couldn’t make the connection that he wanted to kill Fatima. He wanted to kill her!

 

[Sundog]

Sentencing tomorrow for Fatima's father.

Ihsan Ali will stay behind bars until sentencing. He was acquitted of the top count of attempted second-degree murder but was convicted of second-degree assault, unlawful imprisonment, and a misdemeanor of assault in the fourth degree. Ihsan faces a 12-month prison sentence but has been in jail since his arrest last November.


Sentencing is scheduled for Monday, August 18.

WA v. Ihsan & Zahraa Ali: Attempted "Honor Killing" Trial

UPDATE: Ihsan and Zahraa Ali were found not guilty of trying to kill their teen daughter, Fatima. Ihsan was convicted on the lesser charge.

www.courttv.com

 

[Charlot123]

For some reason this judge wanted to be open minded about cultural differences. She ruled against allowing the ‘honor killing-arranged marriage’ in because ‘to her’ it was prejudicial. That was the motive behind IA wanting to kill his daughter! Had that been allowed it would have shown intent. Because without a motive it looks like an assault, or he lost his temper because he was so worried about his daughter. The jury couldn’t make the connection that he wanted to kill Fatima. He wanted to kill her!

I think that he wanted to kill her because he escalates to murderous rage in general. Needs evaluation and treatment, tbh, given how many kids he has, but as many other men, will probably refuse.

I don't know about arranged marriage and here is why. If FA had a "serious" relationship with her BF, then "arranged marriage" back home would be questionable, unless IA planned for her to be killed back home. Or, he could have "fixed" a marriage for his daughter with someone no local woman would marry because of the person's character, or history or something else. (Which is very bad, but not impossible).

I think if we viewed it as a domestic violence felony and the charges were filed as such, it would have had more success. He nearly killed his daughter, and there was prior incidence.

 

[Kalanit]

'You're a disgusting monster': Victim in Lacey assault addresses parents during sentencing

Two Lacey parents learned their fate in Thurston County Superior Court Monday for the brutal assault of their daughter outside her school.

komonews.com

Judge Christine Schaller sentenced Mr. Ali to the maximum penalties allowed for each charge he was convicted of, which includes 14 months for assault in the second degree, 12 months for unlawful imprisonment and 364 days for assault in the fourth degree, with 182 days suspended, for a total of about 20 months for all the charges he’s been convicted of.

 

[Luna20]

'You're a disgusting monster': Victim in Lacey assault addresses parents during sentencing

Two Lacey parents learned their fate in Thurston County Superior Court Monday for the brutal assault of their daughter outside her school.

komonews.com

Judge Christine Schaller sentenced Mr. Ali to the maximum penalties allowed for each charge he was convicted of, which includes 14 months for assault in the second degree, 12 months for unlawful imprisonment and 364 days for assault in the fourth degree, with 182 days suspended, for a total of about 20 months for all the charges he’s been convicted of.

This is such a disappointment. It reinforces his twisted view of women and that attempted death is an option for him as long as it can’t be proven.

I don’t trust the mother to leave her daughter alone. She will do whatever she thinks is necessary to place doubt in Fatima’s mind. It will be aggressive emotional manipulation. Zahrra is brainwashed so she thinks that her husband is right.

 

[Sundog]

This is such a disappointment. It reinforces his twisted view of women and that attempted death is an option for him as long as it can’t be proven.

I don’t trust the mother to leave her daughter alone. She will do whatever she thinks is necessary to place doubt in Fatima’s mind. It will be aggressive emotional manipulation. Zahrra is brainwashed so she thinks that her husband is right.

It sounds like the judge gave the father the maximum sentence based on the charges that were brought against him. And that the judge sentenced him to serve the time consecutively, so the max on all counts. So it sounds like given the charges, justice was served.

 

[Luna20]

It sounds like the judge gave the father the maximum sentence based on the charges that were brought against him. And that the judge sentenced him to serve the time consecutively, so the max on all counts. So it sounds like given the charges, justice was served.

Except that the verdict wasn’t justice.

 

[MMurphy]

That father should be deported back to Iraq, since he has no fear of being there anymore. He is not the type that we want living here.

 

[Sundog]

That father should be deported back to Iraq, since he has no fear of being there anymore. He is not the type that we want living here.

I'm guessing that he is a U.S. citizen, although I don't know for sure.

 

[MMurphy]

I'm guessing that he is a U.S. citizen, although I don't know for sure.

There is nothing that I have seen that says he/they are citizens. I read that the mother bought 1-way tickets to Iraq. I feel sorry for Fatima and the other children under the parent's care. I thought that the brother of the father lived in Canada, where the mother took her children and left them.

 

[kid_a]

They are psychos!! And if they cared at all about Fatima they would have made a plea deal.

Abusive parents never think they're in the wrong.

 

[Seattle1]

8/18/25

Fatima Ali Said 'Abuse Became Unbearable' | Attempted 'Honor Killing' Trial​

 

[Seattle1]

8/18/25

Attempted 'Honor Killing' Trial: Ihsan Ali Learns His Fate​

 

[Seattle1]

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Community custody is a form of supervision imposed by the Washington Department of Corrections (DOC) as part of an offender’s sentence. It functions similarly to probation or parole but applies specifically to certain felony offenders after their release from prison or as a direct sentence alternative. This period of supervision ensures compliance with court-imposed conditions while helping individuals reintegrate into society.

Legal Basis for Community Custody

Community custody is governed by two main statutes. These are RCW 9.94A.701 and RCW 9.94A.703. The two laws outline the types of offenses that warrant community custody and the standard conditions offenders must follow. Sentences involving community custody often apply to individuals convicted of:

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Also, take note Washington State does not have a general parole system at sentencing for most crimes committed after 1984, i.e, Sentencing Reform Act (SRA).

Instead, the state operates under a system where judges impose determinate sentences, and there's no automatic mechanism for early release through parole.

 

[Seattle1]

Daughter confronts parents in court prior to their sentencing

"You're a monster, and I can't believe you're my dad," the daughter said in court. "How could you call yourself a father… you tried to kill me!"

www.king5.com

8/18/25

Judge Christine Schaller imposed the maximum possible sentences on both parents — 20 months for Ihsan Ali and just under one year for Zahraa Ali. Schaller said that if it weren't for bystanders, Fatima would likely have been killed.
"Your behavior was reprehensible and nothing defends what you did," Schaller told the father. "You were not going to let her go, you were not going to let her breathe because nobody else was going to control the situation… you were going to maintain control."
As part of the sentencing, Ihsan Ali is also ordered not to have any contact with his daughter for the next 10 years.