WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

[cj327]

My current thought is that SS purposefully was delaying her arrival at her stepfathers by driving around Olympia for 3 or so (!!) hours. It's not that big a town and you cannot get lost for more than 20 min or so without either leaving town or driving in circles repeatedly.
She may have had a mental problem (a stroke?) or been under the influence to have gone down that dirt road like she did. Honestly, from the Williams' house to the interstate, there is only ONE turn. It is a left turn probably within sight of their home! I drove down that road yesterday before I knew anything about this story.

 

[cj327]

I am a local, and I put this together this morning from several news sources:

Investigators believe Smiley left Silverdale with her son around 5 p.m. (source 1)

About 6:45 p.m., she called her fiancé and asked him to bring her cell phone. But at that point, Simmons said, he was already en route to meet her in Castle Rock. Simmons had been at Cub Scout training that ended at 6:45 p.m., according to a Web site he has set up to help find Smiley and her son. (source 1)

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Respectfully snipped....

The training ended early at 4:30, according to the boyfriend.

Of course you are right, the story I pasted from was and still is wrong! I'll edit.

 

[eleven]

Of course you are right, the story I pasted from was and still is wrong! I'll edit.

Didn't mean to "correct" you on your very first post, haha. WELCOME to WS! It'll be good to get a local perspective.

 

[dreamweaver]

I have not been able to find Azriel on the NCMEC site.
Have the police sent this in?
Or is NCMEC behind in postings as they were a couple of months ago?

No post for mom and son on WA state site either.

 

[Knox]

Is there a possibility she and BF had gotten into a fight that day and she was leaving? Maybe it was over her relapse. Shantina was headed back home (town she was raised in and where family still lived)? She called him and he said hold up, I'll meet you in Olympia, I want to talk about this.

 

[dreamweaver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlChA-Q2fh4&feature=youtube_gdata
Fox News

I don't know if this has been posted or not.

 

[anyoldtime48]

Is there a possibility she and BF had gotten into a fight that day and she was leaving? Maybe it was over her relapse. Shantina was headed back home (town she was raised in and where family still lived)? She called him and he said hold up, I'll meet you in Olympia, I want to talk about this.

She was known to be headed to reunion with her stepfather in Castle Rock, not for any other reason. Fiance arrived there and went looking for her, as well as called LE, along WITH her stepfather, when it was clear something wasn't right...i.e. was way past when she should have shown up.

 

[marcyjoy]

Except surveillance footage shows she drove in the opposite direction from the pizza couple's house than the directions they gave her.

I haven't seen this surveillance. Do you have a link?

 

[mysticrose]

I have found two offenders close to this area they are both creepy, one is for child molestation and the other for attempted kidknapping ...
It is so hard to say if she drove the van there or if someone else did, but if she did turn the wrong way she would end up right there from the pizza house...frustrating.

I hope they are both ok. There are so many creeps out there, heck she could have been being followed for all we know ...

I still think she got out of the van after getting it stuck and tried to find help ... The difference in the tide would have prob. covered any footprints that may have been left showing them walking away from the van....How frustrating !

 

[dreamweaver]

http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=2080650
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The van that Shantina "Kat" Smiley, 29, drove was found Sunday abandoned and partially submerged in water on a remote Puget Sound beach.

"It's almost like she vanished out of thin air," said Chelsie Woodard, 32, of Castle Rock, whose father used to be married to Smiley's mother.

Investigators were taking another look at the van now that it has dried out. And the sheriff's office sent someone to Kitsap County to continue the investigation near Smiley's home.

Friends and family are befuddled, and authorities said the case baffles them, as well.

Thurston County Sheriff's Lt. Chris Mealy said Tuesday that investigators don't know anything more than what they knew Sunday.

Investigators continued to talk to people who know Smiley or her son and those who may have met her as she drove through the back roads of Washington state on Saturday night.
..more at link..

 

[BeanE]

Is there a possibility she and BF had gotten into a fight that day and she was leaving? Maybe it was over her relapse. Shantina was headed back home (town she was raised in and where family still lived)? She called him and he said hold up, I'll meet you in Olympia, I want to talk about this.

I missed something, although I've been trying to follow. What relapse please?

TIA

 

[marcyjoy]

Has anyone seen any info on SS's mother? I've heard the grandparents and the stepfather, fiance and ex husband. But haven't heard about her mom unless I missed it...

 

[anyoldtime48]

Link to most of the major news outlets in Puget Sound area for those who want to get up to speed on locally produced news and view videos, which are posted on most.

http://www.komonews.com
http://www.kirotv.com
http://www.king5.com
http://www.q13fox.com
http://seattletimes.com
http://www.seattlepi.com
http://www.theolympian.com
http://www.thenewstribune.com

 

[Allyne]

Once Shantina left the house she called her grandparents from (DW), she was never seen or heard from again? DW was just on TV and he's NOT an elderly person. He looks like a young guy. I am going to look into him a little, no reason not to.

I wondered why they keep referring to him as elderly...there are several DW's on the court website, one in Thurston County that has a record for theft & looks like assault...she did have a restraining order against ex husband. Jerry, also Robert Jerome Smiley.

Sounding like some sort of brain injury & let's hope that the kid's had enough scouting to make a difference.

 

[RubyRed]

I missed something, although I've been trying to follow. What relapse please?

TIA

alcohol

 

[mysticrose]

just re looking at the map again where the van was found, it would be next to impossible not to find a home around that area for help. You could trip over them there is so many.

 

[eyes4crime]

http://www.ksro.com/news/article.aspx?id=2080650
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The van that Shantina "Kat" Smiley, 29, drove was found Sunday abandoned and partially submerged in water on a remote Puget Sound beach.

"It's almost like she vanished out of thin air," said Chelsie Woodard, 32, of Castle Rock, whose father used to be married to Smiley's mother.

Investigators were taking another look at the van now that it has dried out. And the sheriff's office sent someone to Kitsap County to continue the investigation near Smiley's home.

Friends and family are befuddled, and authorities said the case baffles them, as well.

Thurston County Sheriff's Lt. Chris Mealy said Tuesday that investigators don't know anything more than what they knew Sunday.

Investigators continued to talk to people who know Smiley or her son and those who may have met her as she drove through the back roads of Washington state on Saturday night.
..more at link..

BBM
Is that the step-father she was going to see?

There has got to be a reason she didn't see her step-father for 2 years or more. Did her fiancee know her step-father also? And if not, why would he be on his way there by himself?

 

[armywife]

I missed something, although I've been trying to follow. What relapse please?

TIA

alcohol

This has some typos - i.e. Ronn vs. Robb, but has the info as quoted from Fox News this am.

Her fiance, Ronn Simmons, appeared on FOX News Tuesday saying, "She's a recovering alcohoic and she had a recent relapse last week because I'm having medical issues right now."

However, Simmons claims that his fiance would not have been drinking when she disppeared Saturday night. He says, "She would not get in the car and do something like that. She would not put her son at risk because she loves her son too much."

Sniped from:
Missing Mom's Fiance Appears on FOX News, Reveals More About Her

 

[jmarple]

Two things I wanted to mention. Saturday night (3/14) was cold. We live north of Olympia (which is always colder than the rest of this area) and it was 32 degrees here at 6 a.m. Hypothermia is a possibility. I am only slightly familiar with the Puget Sound area where the car was found, but I'm wondering if some of the homes there might be summer homes, thus making it a little more difficult to find help. Also, much of the land bordering the sound has a bank of some height. If they were following the edge of the water as the tide came in and were next to a high embankment, they would be trapped. The 6:09 a.m. tide on Sunday morning was 14.1 feet, a high tide.

 

[cj327]

I haven't seen this surveillance. Do you have a link?

I don't think the footage from Gull Harbor Merc. was released. I have not seen it, but I know I read that it captured the van twice. Once when they stopped and turned around there and later when the van drove by going north.