WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - #19

[fearless]

I open this with a hope that Sky is found. I read all post, find there are very helpful analyses of JB acting, just hope that Sky is alive, adopted or kidnaped by J family somewhere on East.[Can't leave this hope.]

Baby give us a sign!

 

[GateKeeper]

Up you go Little Man!!

 

[Bree0372]

BBM

Those two actions are a direct contradiction to me. One is the action of a woman not in need or concerned about getting money. The other is the action of a woman quite desperate for money. Yet they are only a couple of days apart. So what happened there?

Did Julia suddenly lose all the money she had within a couple of days of offering to give up any claim for child support?
If she did, why not just say she did need child support after all? Why go after a rich man on a dating website?

It suggests to me that Julie maybe had a specific reason for offering to give up child support if she could move away with the children. It seems like a hasty decision to me. Even a panicked one, imo.

She also said that she wanted to relocate back to Russia or to Scottsdale, AZ. Why Scottsdale?

Articles from when Skye went missing, stated that apparently, Mr. Metalwala would leave his work in Seattle early everyday at about 2pm and come home and feed the children their first meal fo the day, because everyone would be asleep when he left for work and Julia wouldn't allow food in the house. I don't know what time the kids ate the night before or how late they went to bed, but that is a loooong stretch of time for a toddler.

I could be wrong, that was the take on what I read when Skye went missing.

BBM: That was when they were still living together as a couple. It was quite some time since they had lived together till the time Sky "disappeared". Given that MM was underweight when she went into foster care, it wouldn't surprise me if Sky never ate. Bless his precious heart! I can't imagine how you don't feed your children. :banghead:

 

[Tripmap]

She also said that she wanted to relocate back to Russia or to Scottsdale, AZ. Why Scottsdale?



BBM: That was when they were still living together as a couple. It was quite some time since they had lived together till the time Sky "disappeared". Given that MM was underweight when she went into foster care, it wouldn't surprise me if Sky never ate. Bless his precious heart! I can't imagine how you don't feed your children. :banghead:

Yes, exactly. Sky may have succumbed to malnutrition. Obviously only a theory. Here is possibly where I read about Solomon having to leave work to feed children I think what I read was a bit more detailed. It is in a paragraph near the bottom of the article. http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2016779942_apuswashingtonmissingtoddler.html

 

[Blessed]

Do we know if Julia has a current FB page? I tried doing a quick search but didnt come up with anything..

One other point, can we add the Blog recording's to the timeline? I know not strictly FB, but was "online" posting...

 

[Blessed]

I also cannot understand how you do not feed your children!!

Although, if you dont feed them, would leave them with little - to no energy, that would surely stop them running around "being children" and messing the house up, when JB liked everything in order.. Would also answer why they slept until around 2.00 (I couldnt imagine they were early rises, and Solomon waited until after 2.00pm to feed them, so I am assuming they slept late)
Did little M still have a bottle? Possibility is she kept giving them bottles to keep them full.

 

[ChelaCat]

Bumping for you precious boy. May justice come soon. Your Sky Crew is waiting. We love you.

 

[Bree0372]

Bumping our precious baby boy back to Page 1.

 

[zwiebel]

BBM

She also said that she wanted to relocate back to Russia or to Scottsdale, AZ. Why Scottsdale?



BBM: That was when they were still living together as a couple. It was quite some time since they had lived together till the time Sky "disappeared". Given that MM was underweight when she went into foster care, it wouldn't surprise me if Sky never ate. Bless his precious heart! I can't imagine how you don't feed your children. :banghead:

That's interesting. I wonder if there was a relative there or - more likely in my opinion - Julie had found someone on a dating website she wanted to hook up with? It might have been enlightening at the time to see if there were any 'sugar daddies' from that area on the website.

It might also be interesting to see why the idea was dropped; for example, imagine if Julie had revealed she was arriving with two children, and her sugar daddy had then backed out, or said something along the lines of two children being too much of a responsibility to take on?

I'm guessing any conversations like that would have taken place on the site, and not Julie's mailbox on her computer.

 

[neesaki]

I can't believe it's going on two years now. Is LE doing anything, anyone know? I just don't get why they haven't arrested that woman....for something :stormingmad:

 

[Wendy101]

Since we have some new sleuths on here, thought I'd bump up my other timeline as well that shows how JB's online posting correlate to the state of her mental health (IMO). Maybe some fresh eyes could make something of this?

From the FB timeline.. I'd say baby Sky went missing in September.

 

[Seajay]

A help up Little Sky. Where are you baby boy??? What did your mother do with you? Where did she put you? Come home Sky. Your Daddy and sister need you.

 

[Blessed]

Bumping up our boy ♥

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Hey everyone! First, I just wanted to say that you all are amazing for your dedication to Sky. He's just precious and I don't blame you for getting attached to those eyes! <3

I also wanted to bring forward something a former mod came up with. It has a TON of great ideas on what to do when a case has no news. Which unfortunately is the case here.

The reason I wanted to post this here is this: "Bumping" a case is fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with bumping a thread, and I've done it myself. However, when done with such frequency as is seen in Sky's thread, it causes people to stop checking the thread. Someone will see Sky's thread on the front page, check for news, and see a "bump". A few days later, it pops up again. Not news, just "bump". Same thing the next day. After a while, they stop checking. And then, if there IS news in Sky's case, people unfortunately won't click. Now, please know I'm NOT asking you to stop bumping the thread. Like I said before, it's not against the rules and is definitely okay to do. But here are some other ideas to use as "bumps" that people may want to review. Or it might spark an idea or something.

(Even if something's been done before, we're on thread #19 here! You can dig it up, or do it again.)

Things to do in Cases When There's No News:

- Go back through threads and collect what you think are the top ten most important links in the case, make a list of them, and post them. These lists would be great for both those familiar with the case, as well as people new to the case.

- If there's no timeline for the case, create one and post it, or begin one that others could add to. Find the most recent timeline, update it, and post it. If an existing timeline doesn't need updating, check to see if it's been posted within the last three pages of the most recent thread, and if not, go ahead and post it again for people new to the case to read.

- Write up your own recap of the story of the case and post it. Great for people who are new to the case, plus you get to give a voice to the victim.

- Go back and collect the known facts of the case, along with their source links, and post them. If you don't have time to collect all of them, just do whatever you have time for, and ask for others to add to it.

- Write up your own theory of what happened in the case and post it. Great to get others thinking about and posting on the case, and bring attention to it.

- Find a picture of the victim that hasn't been posted for a while, and post it so there's always a face to put with the victim's name, reminding people that the victim is a real person.

- Research to see if there's an updated missing poster and post it or link to it so it can be printed and distributed.

- Find the most recent map(s) of significant locations, update them if necessary, or just post the list of links if it hasn't been posted in the last few pages. If there's already a map created with one tool, create one with another tool that might give a different perspective. Maps can be created with Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/), Bing (http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH7), and other online tools.

- Check Google News or Interceder (http://interceder.net/) for the most recent news story, and post it with a note that it's the most recent story on the case.

- See if there's a candle lighting site for the victim. If so, light a candle and post the link. If not, create a site, light a candle, and post the link so others can light candles. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=ENG

- Humanize the victim - see if you can find some of the victim's favorite things, make a list, and post them. Did you find the victim's favorite song? See if you can find the lyrics, and post a link to them. Did you find the victim's favorite place to go? See if you can find a website for it, or a link to it on Google Maps or Bing.com, and link to them.

- Write up a recap of the victim's story, or a particular aspect of the case that interests or puzzles you, in your very own unique way, and post it.

- Write up a Myth Buster! Do you know of a rumor or misinformation that's made the rounds in the case and has always bugged you? Look up the source links for the real facts, and bust the myth!

- Find all the Nancy Grace transcripts for all the shows about the case, make a list of the links, and post them. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

- Start a list of direct quotes from LE, along with the date stated, and link to source. Post it and ask others to contribute to it.

- Is there a certain news video or press conference that you and others are constantly listening to to determine what was said? Transcribe it and post it for reference.

- Make a Who's Who list of the people in the case, with their full name so they can be searched for easily, and what their role or relationship is to the case. Use initials only though, when appropriate per TOS.

- Make a list of the news websites that have been covering the case regularly, collect their URLs, and post it.

- For cases where there are general discussion threads instead of a forum, check to see if important information and links have been brought forward from previous threads, such as timeline, case recap, list of news websites, photo archives, candle lighting site for the victim, etc. Post the ones that haven't been brought forward yet.

 

[zwiebel]

I was just looking back through old articles. Although Nadia Biryukova, Sky's grandmother, took 23 days to first speak to media about him ( that seems a very long time to me), she did say she would give everything to hold him in her arms again.

But.....she doesn't seem to have done a single thing to help find him since then. No interviews, no vigils, no walks, no flyers and no appeals to the public. That is very sad.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/sky...s-silence-on-grandson-134709358.html?ref=prev

And here in this article, Sky's greatgrandmother in the Ukraine appears to blame Solomon for Sky's disappearance. That seems surprising, given the facts of the case. I notice the reporter had to use a translator, and that suggests to me that relatives there may not actually know the entire story. Or even half of it. If they can't read English and articles haven't been translated, I wonder what they have heard, and from whom?

http://www.king5.com/news/local/sky-metalwala/Biryukova-relatives-in-Ukraine-134364563.html

I met a nice Belorussian the other day, and he said he was sure it would help a lot if a few translated stories about Sky's disappearance could circulate in the Ukraine, because a person never knows what information might come winging back across the ocean. Julia's family seem to have the language skills between them. It might seem a bit far-fetched, but anything's worth a try, isn't it? They should do it. That is, if they really do mean they would do everything to get him back. A bit of translation doesn't seem like much to ask, to me.*

I don't think it is worth appealing to Julia. In my opinion, she has made it clear she doesn't want to help, and is living in a dream world where she is the honest and open, penniless, single-parent victim of a bitter divorce. Waiting for a rich prince to rescue her from a situation that is none of her fault. Even though she doesn't have either of her children with her and it is her husband taking care of the child who isn't missing - without any financial support from Julia.

 

[zwiebel]

I just made a complete fool of myself by asking a fellow poster who does NOT speak Ukrainian or Russian, to translate a story for me. About a little missing boy......

I don't care though. I am going to carry on making a fool of myself until I remember the right name. Sky Metalwala is going to become very well known in the Ukraine. It may take a long time, and I may look very foolish at times, but I believe there are some people out there very interested in his case, and maybe they have some information that could help.

We will have to see. If I am wasting my time ....well, it's my time to waste.

 

[GateKeeper]

I just made a complete fool of myself by asking a fellow poster who does NOT speak Ukrainian or Russian, to translate a story for me. About a little missing boy......

I don't care though. I am going to carry on making a fool of myself until I remember the right name. Sky Metalwala is going to become very well known in the Ukraine. It may take a long time, and I may look very foolish at times, but I believe there are some people out there very interested in his case, and maybe they have some information that could help.

We will have to see. If I am wasting my time ....well, it's my time to waste.

NO time is wasted...when its time spent finding our Little Man.

Every week I hang Sky's missing posters. Each week I replace the old ones, and find at least one new location to hang a new one. Over and over each week...turns into months...now into YEARS. BUT I know Im not wasting my time,because just maybe, some glorious day,one of those posters will help our baby boy come home.

Just keep doing what youre doing zwiebel :cheer: Let us know if we can help.

 

[zwiebel]

I find some of the photographs quite hard to look at - Sky looks so serious in some of them. He looks as though he is asking to be brought home. It is totally beyond me how anyone can look at those photographs and not do every single thing they can to help.

 

[SurfieTX]

Don't know if anyone has sleuthed JB here but this is pretty prevalent, it looks like.

In the Detroit School District alone, 201 teachers are moonlighting as sugar babies to offset wage cuts and job losses, according to dating website SeekingArrangement.com.

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In case you were wondering, the website describes a modern sugar daddy as a successful and generous man who is willing to pamper and offer financial help or gifts to a young person in return for friendship and companionship. A &#8220;goal seeking sugar baby&#8221; is described on the website as a girl who &#8220;know(s) you deserve to date someone who will pamper you, empower you, and help you mentally, emotionally and financially.&#8221;

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/08...oonlight-as-sugar-babies-to-offset-wage-cuts/

 

[zwiebel]

Mmmm. Well. If 'Sugardaddy' doesn't mind being banned from using the toilet in his own home, banned from bringing food in or eating, and doesn't mind being excluded from the home until 10 pm so 'sugarmommy' can get all her cleaning done, again and again.....he'll do just fine.

They must be lining up.