WA WA - Sky Metalwala, 2, Bellevue, 6 Nov 2011 - # 7

[ClassyT]

Her membership to a sugar daddy site just shows what I said a few days ago, shes money oriented. Her marriage went down hill when the money disappeared. She filed contempt on her husband when he was one month late on support. She did all of the manipulation because she could. She said she wanted to move, he did. She said she wanted a second home, he did. She said come home and feed the kids, he did. Its easy to have these behaviors when someone enables it. When he stopped, she got mad and made her new obsession to make his life miserable. Money NOT mental illness is the root of her evil. She is sick but she is more spiteful and vindictive.

 

[DairyGirl]

thank goodness she said she has 2 kids......I can't imagine the outrage if she would've said she had no kids. :thewhip:

I interpreted it to mean she wanted someone who was financially stable and not some unemployed loser.....sort of weeds out the bad ones. KWIM?

But maybe I'm totally off because I know nothing about that dating site except people speculating that it has to do with prostitution.

Maybe I am strange but I don't look for my dates on a web site that advertises itself as a place to hook up with sugar daddies and I certainly don't expect my dates to pay me $3,000 to $5,000 a month for the privilege of dating me.

 

[Cubby]

All caught up now. My turn to use it....whiskey tango foxtrot, Batman! That dating thing put me over the edge. Not because of dating, but because she expects to get 3K min for her trouble. Also the whole whatever arrangement YOU want...how exactly does that jive with being a single mom?

I agree, however I'd change the word "get" to "be paid for" her trouble.

There is only one definition for being paid to date in my world, and it means prostitution.

 

[Darcyline]

Yeah that isn't really just dating when you are setting a price and talking about "arrangements"
Trust me, if you go on a website like that talking figures and arrangements no one is just thinking "innocent dating." I mean, I won't judge-that type of arrangement is fairly common and I know lots of women who would be willing to "date" a man for his money in return. I don't think it makes her a murderer of her child by any means just because she is very blunt about it.
However, her completely bogus story that no one believes and allegations of mental illness make me very nervous. Not a good combination at all

 

[GingerRed]

And there is even fruit in the bowl on the counter.

Two over-stuffed fruit bowls, obviously arranged. Wow.

(Notice there are a total of three bottles of dish soap on the counter, too?)

 

[Rougelatete]

Re: the Metalwala children being starved, malnourished, or any other appearance related major signs of abuse, specifically neglect.

There are several details that IMO need to be pointed out regarding there being a lack of photos showing any of these ^above^ named signs of neglect. First, I don't believe that it has ever been stated in this case by anyone that these children were ever of the appearance of malnourished, starved, etc.. Especially by SM this has never been claimed.. Much different is that SM states that there were infact long periods of time(as in months) that Julia due to illness or just because of being a crappy parent did
Not, could not, would not provide food for these children. This is especially explained in thorough detail with MM specifically before Sky was even born. This woman's illness would not allow there to be food in The home..

Therefor had it not been for the father the children would have been quite possibly starved.. Who knows? I'm just thankful SM didn't allow it to go on and have to find out if Julia would have let them starve to death. Instead SM intervened and moved heaven and earth altering the schedule of their family's only income in order to ensure that MM WAS NOT MALNOURISHED OR STARVED! So therefor IMO you're certainly not going to fond evidence of malnourished starved kids in the photostream.

Re: staging photos.

While I certainly don't believe that all the photos were strategically staged individually(could be wrong).. But rather I feel that much more likely this obsessive mother felt an obsessive motivation compelling her to have documented that which would absolutely and completely negate any/all of SM's documented claims of her severe illnesses and what those illness caused in terms of not being able to provide necessities for her children.. I think it's just another layer of the obsessive compulsion to prove Solomon's claims are not true.. That's exactly what i see with the photostream.

Re: the arrangement "dating" site. While I would personally have zero issue whatsoever of a single woman being on a dating site, I do not consider this a dating site and IMO with Julia having specifically joined this type of site IMO just lends further credence that just as SM refers to in court docs Julia is very much motivated by money and having money.. I believe that this obsessive need of Julias be monetarily cared for will infact become an even larger piece to this puzzle than what we have yet to see.. I think we've barely scratched the surface here..

All in all I am still standing by my originally assessment of this individual.. I believe her to very much have marked mental illness but totally seperate from that I believe Julia to be an extremely manipulative and quite possibly be inherently evil at her most basic core. Shades of Casey indeed tho different in many ways, I still say these two woman's deepest core of their very beings is extremely similar and self consumed.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I definitely believe that the children would have been deprived of some of their basic needs had SM not stepped in (and been really, really flexible and agreeable -- I get the impression that his priority was the children, not in trashing or one-upping JB as many domestic batterers do). I'm still having trouble (and I am state certified in domestic batterer intervention and have worked with many DB's) believing that SM, himself, was one. I think he was more like a saving grace for those poor children and displayed some amazing restraint -- DB's frequently file for full custody of the children as another control/abuse tactic (SM never did that, correct?) and DB's will seek out to trash their victim in court (so far I know, SM -- almost reluctantly, and it appears, for the sake of the children, only stated what was verified by other mental health professionals -- correct me if I'm wrong. That's not consistent with what I know to be true of DB behavior.)

The photos could have been strategically staged (lending itself more towards a PD diagnosis) or as a result of her OCD -- I agree. I'm leaning towards PD still, based on the rest of her history. I definitely think she had OCD, no doubt. It's semantics, really, but what you're calling "extremely manipulative, inherently evil, and self consumed," I'm calling PD. One in the same, SmoothOperator!

 

[KMouse]

Actually she does mention her two kids there. However, a sugar daddy doesn't care how many kids she has so long as they are not in his way.

An infant could absolutely be in the way.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Sugar Daddies don't want to hear about kids or cleaning or fruit.

They are paying for an "arrangement" and that is what matters to them.

Now I am wondering about the musical beds in the apartment. Maybe the kids room got turned into the "shmoosh room". Or she was running out to hotels to meet her sugar daddies. If so, who was looking after the kids.
By having no contact with the child's father and not allowing the kids to have contact with their father she could do whatever she wanted and nobody was going to rat her out.

 

[Chris_Texas]

There is no proof whatsoever of what you're alleging. Unless I hear it from LE, I will dismiss it as mud throwing and totally unfounded.

I'm not defending what she did by leaving Sky alone in the car but c'mon. Let's not invent stuff just to make her look worst than she already does.

I bet there are hundreds of single women with children frequenting dating sites. There is nothing wrong with that.

Again, it's not exactly a dating site. Take a few minutes and look through the pictures the other ladies have posted there. It took me all of thirty seconds to find one weilding a whip. Note as well the built-in selling price feature. How many dating sites have the woman's asking price in her description?

Have you ever used a dating site?

If so, how much money did you charge for your affection? Did you charge as much as Julia?

And if the above question offended you then I apologize, but you now understand the DIFFERENCE between this website and match.com.

 

[OneLove]

Hopefully, ALL of Julia's correspondence have been traceable with forensics. I hope her John Daddies are turning themselves in and telling everything they know. Her cell phone records should reveal much also, right? (hoping, hoping)

 

[DairyGirl]

There is no proof whatsoever of what you're alleging. Unless I hear it from LE, I will dismiss it as mud throwing and totally unfounded.

I'm not defending what she did by leaving Sky alone in the car but c'mon. Let's not invent stuff just to make her look worst than she already does.

I bet there are hundreds of single women with children frequenting dating sites. There is nothing wrong with that.

No one needs to invent anything to make her look worse. She is doing a bang up job of that all by herself.
She left a 3 month old baby in freezing weather for nearly an hour to shop. She apparently habitually leaves two babies by themselves for up to 11 hour periods or so. And then, if she is to be believed (which I don't) she left her sick 2 year old all alone on a highway in an unlocked car. That doesn't even factor in the fact that she was looking to sell her company for up to $5,000 a month. No, she doesn't need anyone's help at all.

 

[ClassyT]

The membership on the site says to me that the only way she knows how to make money is using men. Get a job? Oh no. Who participated in a site or service like that while in a major custody battle? They could have tore her UP with that in court.

 

[hollyblue]

Well, we can tell how much NG researches and reviews the case before she brings it forth. LOL Sorta caught with her pants down when starting her rant on SM for leaving the children alone during mediation!! Road block by LE? GMAB!!
P leasssse!

 

[Patty G]

For me, I don't really care if she is a "clean-freak", I only care if she harmed Sky and where is he and so thankful "little M" is safe and sound.

 

[Cubby]

Yeah that isn't really just dating when you are setting a price and talking about "arrangements"
Trust me, if you go on a website like that talking figures and arrangements no one is just thinking "innocent dating." I mean, I won't judge-that type of arrangement is fairly common and I know lots of women who would be willing to "date" a man for his money in return. I don't think it makes her a murderer of her child by any means just because she is very blunt about it.
However, her completely bogus story that no one believes and allegations of mental illness make me very nervous. Not a good combination at all

To each their own, when they don't have children that are in their care. I really don't knock people for making those choices if it fits in with their moral choices and comfort zone. But when children are involved, and one posts links to photos of their children...... I'm flabbergasted. Heck, I don't post pictures of my child online. I don't use his name online.

This is incredibly risky behavior. Especially where her children are concerned and now one has gone missing.

Isn't risky behavior associated with bi-polar? Not to use mental illness or a personality disorder to excuse her behavior, but she's thrown all caution to the wind with innocent little lives in her hands.

 

[Etilema]

Homeopathy & Naturopathy are very common up here in the PNW, in fact, WA State is home to one of the best natural medicine universities in the world - Bastyr University. Here in WA State, insurance plans cover alternative medicine.

I personally don't find it odd that they took their kiddos to see a Homeopath.

I agree, and it also doesn't mean they reject all conventional medicine.

 

[Patty G]

Nancy doesn't know about the "Seeking Arrangement" website.

 

[pdxmama]

Homeopathy & Naturopathy are very common up here in the PNW, in fact, WA State is home to one of the best natural medicine universities in the world - Bastyr University. Here in WA State, insurance plans cover alternative medicine.

I personally don't find it odd that they took their kiddos to see a Homeopath.

Thank you, I was just going to say that. I live in Portland and pretty much everyone I know uses some type of alternative medical provider: Naturopath, herbalist, acupuncturist, etc. I personally see both a Naturopath and an MD and so do my kiddos. I like to know all of my options.

 

[Chris_Texas]

Yeah that isn't really just dating when you are setting a price and talking about "arrangements"
Trust me, if you go on a website like that talking figures and arrangements no one is just thinking "innocent dating." I mean, I won't judge-that type of arrangement is fairly common and I know lots of women who would be willing to "date" a man for his money in return. I don't think it makes her a murderer of her child by any means just because she is very blunt about it.
However, her completely bogus story that no one believes and allegations of mental illness make me very nervous. Not a good combination at all

Absolutely.

I do NOT judge anyone who uses this service regardless of the role they assume. It is, at the very least, honest. However, in this case we have a missing infant so we do need to examine what this development might say about mom.

 

[Adrienne37]

No one needs to invent anything to make her look worse. She is doing a bang up job of that all by herself.
She left a 3 month old baby in freezing weather for nearly an hour to shop. She apparently habitually leaves two babies by themselves for up to 11 hour periods or so. And then, if she is to be believed (which I don't) she left her sick 2 year old all alone on a highway in an unlocked car. That doesn't even factor in the fact that she was looking to sell her company for up to $5,000 a month. No, she doesn't need anyone's help at all.

Couldn't have said it better myself!! Thanks DairyGirl!!

 

[Adrienne37]

I have to wonder how many times M and Sky were left alone while she was out being someone's "Sugar Baby?" Maybe that's why she needed new shoes and a haircut the day after the mediation.