WA - Unidentified Male: "Lyle Stevik", Grays Harbor, 17 Sept 2001 - #3

[superunknown]

That is quite a list- but believe it or not, it's only scratching the surface. For example, the tribes themselves, especially in Canada have many branches and offshoots ('first nations'), which are pretty independent of one another. So under each tribe there may be 20 or 30 branches or "clans". Same goes for the inuits. Not only do they have their own language/alphabet, but at least the Canadian inuits operate pretty independently from the government and have many clans and sub-clans.

 

[nohwheregirl]

I actually do research on Native American tribes and have an exhaustive list of all federally recognized tribes in the lower 48 and where the tribes hold land. I'm not sure if there is someone out there who's really willing to send letters to hundreds of tribes, but let me know if you really want the list.

 

[becklynn]

Couldn't his name have been Lyle Stebic? Just the the lower case b looks like a v? We now know that is a common name.

 

[outofthedark]

I dunno but maybe...

 

[outofthedark]

I did a writing class assignment on Lyle:

It was baffling and still is to everyone who knows this. What were the chances in a million that something like this would ever be officially solved? They remember the day it happened. on 9/17/2001, a man found dead at a hotel, he did have a name and an address, but nothing else except the clothes on his back and just a toothbrush and toothpaste. This looked easy, the man's name was Lyle Stevik from Meridian, Idaho. That was the end of the easy path for the police- the info the man gave was false. His name was not Lyle Stevik and he wasn't from Idaho. The hotel clerk did give one clue, he had an accent that indicated he might be from Canada. If that wasn't his identity, then who was this mystery man really? For the police, it was already back to square one. Despite the false name, address and fingerprints that didn't check out, the man did have identifying features- he had excellent teeth that maybe a dentist could recognize and a surgical scar that a doctor could identify. A dentist could recognize his handiwork and a doctor could identify a former patient. Where the fingerprints failed, these two could be a key. Getting the case out was hard, it had been overshadowed by the 9/11 attacks and nobody locally could recognize him. Years went by with no leads as to who he really was. There were pictures and identifying descriptors of him, but why did nobody recognize him? As hard as the case was, the detective who worked this mystery never gave up on "Lyle". In fact, people intrigued by this mysterious man took his case everywhere on the internet- blogs, message boards, anywhere! It was astonishing how a case with not much media attention got the online attention it probably never dreamed of! Now people were trying to find ways to get the story out, get it the national attention it deserved and bring Lyle Stevik back somewhere he hadn't even been in years- home. Even when the day arrives when closure comes, the mystique and memories won't ever dissappear... but for now, it's what they want to do for a man they never knew...

My teacher gave it an 18/20. I used the article scans that rmf kindly provided

 

[laini]

Good job on your report Outofthedark!

I wondered what everyone thought of this guy: Cesar Ortiz http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2302dmca.html The nose is different, but noses do change if broken. Maybe too old?

 

[outofthedark]

Good job on your report Outofthedark!

Thanks. Too bad my teacher didn't comment on it...

 

[jwalk]

I too have been following this for a long long time and I wonder why he didn't want anybody to know who he was, maybe he did something bad and was guilt ridden and he wanted it that way. It still bugs me that someone knew him, someone went to school with him etc and still he remains unknown.

 

[outofthedark]

I too have been following this for a long long time and I wonder why he didn't want anybody to know who he was, maybe he did something bad and was guilt ridden and he wanted it that way. It still bugs me that someone knew him, someone went to school with him etc and still he remains unknown.

I think someone mentioned something about Lyle and possibly incest as a possibility for guilt- I don't remember but I think it was on this thread somewhere:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39426&highlight=lyle+stevik

It's going to take me a long time to go through 35 pages of posts. The board's search engine didn't help either

 

[Eire]

Incest is one of the themes in the book he took his name from. I read the book a while ago myself, there are so many things going on in the book, it's hard to figure out which one might be the reason Lyle took that name, if any reason at all.

 

[outofthedark]

I know somebody mentioned that he may have never read the book at all but knew about the character

 

[Eire]

It's difficult to tell. Maybe he never read it, but the name was important to somebody else.

Go with me while I think outloud for a minute. The book isn't so well-known that the characters' names would make it into popular culture. Even if one never read "The Catcher in the Rye", they'd recognize the name Holden Caulfield. People use the name Willie Loman all the time to describe certain types of sales people without ever having seen "Death of a Salesman." Oates' book doesn't rank up there as far as prominent characters go. He may not have read it, but perhaps somebody close to him did. The name meant something to someone. I just wish we could find out who.

 

[Babyslims]

was thinking about our dear old Lyle, so thought I'd bump his thread.. anyone have any new avenues they've been checking out?

 

[outofthedark]

was thinking about our dear old Lyle, so thought I'd bump his thread.. anyone have any new avenues they've been checking out?

Been trying... it's so hard... I still haven't heard from Detective Shumate yet on that PM I sent him...

If you're interested: http://www.murha.info/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1198&sid=4abd919e78473441ffb7219fa1794ce5
Use google translator, it gave a somewhat decent translation- it's in Finnish

 

[outofthedark]

I found a picture of the place Lyle stayed!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasmilne/235236630/in/set-72157594270606642/

It's the Lake Quinault Inn

According to the picture caption written by the poster, it is near a bar and an internet cafe

Here is the address for the place:
http://www.openlist.com/amanda-park-wa_lake-quinault-inn-inc/116425/?r=1

A quote from a 2003 article: http://www.citizensalliance.org/links/pages/news/National%20News/Washington.htm

The Lake Quinault Inn, an eight - room hotel that caters to fishermen, was nearly empty this week because of the closure, said Vicki Shepard, 45, a clerk at the Inn and lifelong area resident. Shepard added that she doesn't recall there ever being a lake closure before now.

Interesting...

Someone posted this awhile back, but I'll post it again: http://www.thedailyworld.com/articles/2001/09/18/export21365.txt

 

[Babyslims]

Man that google translator is neat! wish I had that b4... lol translating 1 word at a time stinks :angel:

 

[Babyslims]

Wonder if all that internet cafe was opened back then? Looks like someone would notice him from somewhere!!!

 

[outofthedark]

Wonder if all that internet cafe was opened back then? Looks like someone would notice him from somewhere!!!

and the bar too maybe??

I wonder how in an 8 room hotel nobody would remember him? I think somebody out there saw him and did remember him between Sept.14-16 but hasn't said anything for 7 years

 

[Julessleuther]

Hi all. I have been a member of Websleuths for awhile but have only lurked on this topic. I have an idea, not sure how easy it would be to investigate...

Maybe he came to this location to die because he had a friend or family member who died there? Maybe someone drown in the lake? In his sadness he wanted to die close to them?

Can we find out who has drown in the lake or died near there?

 

[outofthedark]

I also found a map that included LQI- there were other motels in the same area