WARNING:GRAPHIC PHOTOS Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #9

[dgfred]

One drop of Amanda's blood was found on the faucet I believe, not mixed with anyone else's dna. She attributed this to a recent ear piercing. None of the mixed blood/dna samples contained Amanda's blood.

There was no blood according to her before the murder. When would this blood of her's get there? She also 'attributed' to maybe being from Meredith's menstrual cycle too... I think. It didn't worry her too much it seems, either there or the blood on the bathmat.

 

[wasnt_me]

I don't know SMK, but it seems that whatever the case, they were ready to call the police if they did it before the PP got there.


As for Amanda's blood. If it happened to come from her ear, and if we are to believe her that it wasn't there before the murder, why can't it have fallen there before or after the shower she said she took that morning before the police got there?

Also, I personally wouldn't hold weight to whether or not AK knew when a splatter of blood had fallen. It could have fallen the afternoon before. Wasn't she at the house at least until lunchtime the day of the murder? The only reason I give leeway on this point is because we see NO open wounds on Amanda.

If she'd been scratched or they'd photographs some fight wounds, hell yeah, I'd be all over this blood in the bathroom.

 

[dgfred]

@SMK.
Yes, that post shows the postal police arriving at 12:58 AFTER driving around looking for the cottage for a bit IMO. RS's call ends at 12:55... Don't believe they would have expected them that fast. My opinion is that RS saw them driving around looking for the cottage.

 

[wasnt_me]

If that's the theory for the call, then what do you believe he was thinking when he saw the PP driving around?

Also, what's the theory of his calls at 12:50 and 12:51?

And a random question: Was there evidence that AK had showered in that bathroom?

 

[dgfred]

@wasn't me,
There are photos of what looks like to me a scratch on her neck on the day the murder was discovered (but it doesn't look 'bloody' to me). Also it looks like her bottom earing is 'different' or missing... it is hard to tell exactly but something looks odd about it (doesn't look 'bloody' either tho). I would guess any blood would be from there since AK mentions it to LE and mentions RS 'cleaning' her ears.

 

[dgfred]

If that's the theory for the call, then what do you believe he was thinking when he saw the PP driving around?

Also, what's the theory of his calls at 12:50 and 12:51?

And a random question: Was there evidence that AK had showered in that bathroom?

:shocked2::uthere:raying:

Only 7 minutes before their arrival.

Not sure of the 'in the shower' evidence.

 

[SMK]

@SMK.
Yes, that post shows the postal police arriving at 12:58 AFTER driving around looking for the cottage for a bit IMO. RS's call ends at 12:55... Don't believe they would have expected them that fast. My opinion is that RS saw them driving around looking for the cottage.

OK, that is a thought, for sure! But one thing---why would the postal police have a hard time finding the cottage? Would they not be very aware of all streets and addresses, being after all the postal police????????:waitasec::waitasec:

 

[SMK]

@dgfred
I added a question to my post to you above

 

[wasnt_me]

:shocked2::uthere:raying:

Only 7 minutes before their arrival.

Not sure of the 'in the shower' evidence.

I don't get it. what's the theory?

The scratch on her neck is of no concern to me, personally, because it's not bleeding and I read that no scrappings were found under Mk's nails.

Do we know how long AK and RS were at the cottage before police arrived? this might help to explain some of the call issues.

I'm reading the thing whomever posted for me to read about the window. It's quite excellent, so I'll be back on that window shortly.

 

[sherlockh]

I'm sure that if Raf and Amanda knew there was one of their bloody footprints on the bathmat after they had just cleaned up every other trace of themselves, that they would have opted to just throw some water on the footprint to at least distort it or thrown it in the washing machine before calling the cops to take a look at it.

I actually agree with that. If only they had known. I can only speculate on it but I think AK figured it out that morning when she said she noticed blood on the bathmat and made up a story of stepping on it and sliding down the hall way. Maybe she thought it was her footprint? Anyway, easy to say what they should or should not have done now we know all the evidence. She should have thrown the Q-Tip box away as well. I guess they were not thinking all that clearly after their first ever murder. I am surprised they even came as far as they did with their plan. JMO.

I am still surprised anyone would believe any of her story. The door is open, there is blood, and she takes a shower. She notices the blood on the bathmat and thinks it is from her roommate menstruating. But never mind that, she steps on it and slides down the hallway naked. She claims to have touched dried blood, and clean her ears and that is supposed to explain for stains on the Q-Tip box? I don't know but how can anyone not be at least a little bit suspicious after such a story?

 

[wasnt_me]

I understand that the front door was wide open and this was not a curious thing for these women, because the door had a history of coming back open if not properly latched.

My neighbor's door was this way for the longest time. The first time I saw it ajar, it scared the crap out of me, but once it kept happening, it was just a normal occurance and I was unafraid to approach it and close it for my neighbors.

Amanda could have thought someone just didn't shut the door right again.

I know nothing of this sliding naked around on the bloody mat. It might be possible that she didn't even look down at the mat until she'd gotten out of the shower.

Back on this window, this guy I'm reading actually shows proof in pictures of evidence of someone climbing the wall and having loose brick dust on their feet after climbing into the room. It's a great read.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/RonHendry2-----a.html

 

[sherlockh]

It is true that the door needed to be locked, but I have not read anywhere that it was normal that the front door was open. Nobody testified to this. AK herself testified that the open door surprised her, so nothing normal about that. She then continues that she thought maybe somebody left the door open while going out for a minute. She then leaves the door open ajar while getting naked and taking a shower.

 

[wasnt_me]

You can be surprised by an occurance that you've seen once or twice before. Seeing your own front door open does make the heart pump and then you remember the latch has a catching problem. For all we know, RG might have closed it and it opened back up on its own.

I don't know anything about her leaving the door open. She testified that she did not close the door back? That's dumb, even if she WERE the murderer, if you ask me. just because you killed your roommate doesn't mean someone else won't walk in on you, and if you did kill your roommate, seems you want to close the door, so no one just walks in and discovers it as you shower. So her leaving the door open is dumb whether innocent or guilty.

 

[wasnt_me]

okay, after reading Ron Hardry's theory about the window, I'm sold that RG entered the house through that window.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/RonHendry2------c.html

He even located a scuff mark on the wall, he indicated how the clothes might have gotten all over the floor, he shows evidence of partials from RG's shoes that got on stuff that RG stepped on when he climbed into the room, he explains how glass gets way deep into the room and also on the window sill.

most importantly, he explains about this rock.

In his theory, the rock hit the upright black bag and tore in as it fell to the ground. There are particles from the rock as well as glass at the crash to the floor area. I see no plausible reason for the rock to end up half way in and half way out of the torn bag if the rock was strategically placed. I also see no reason for it to be strategically placed off to the side rather than more in front of the window. I think the rock hitting that bag is very important, because it shows something natural happening as the rock lands somewhere it isn't supposed to be as opposed to someone choosing to also strike the bag with the rock as they place the rock and bag onto the floor.

Anyone who has read this report, tell me your thoughts, agreeing or disagreeing with it.

 

[claudicici]

It doesn't make sense to me that he would have chosen such an inconvenient way to break into the place.If he broke in it would have been much easier to break in through the door.That whole scenario of first climbing up to open the shutters,than throwing the rock,then climbing back up and getting in without getting cut? No I don't believe it.
i think the door was left open or Meredith opened it or he would have broken in through the door.
Maybe he opened the green shutters on his way out...tossed the clothes around in F's room and then threw the rock while he was running off? That would explain the glass on the clothes.

 

[wasnt_me]

Yeah, the front door sounds good, too, but RG has a history of throwing rocks and climbing in, so not sure why he didn't use the front door at the other place, either.

I was reading something very important about the contamination of the crime scene. It's as follows:

One last note about the contaminated bra clasp. I have read some very interesting details about the protective suits that the investigators are wearing in the video. The most important information pertains to the shoe covers. The bra clasp was found on the floor. The shoe covers actually work like dust mops. This would mean that all of the DNA throughout the apartment would have quickly been spread from room to room. Shoe covers are designed to protect floors from shoe contamination. This means that they keep dirt from transferring to the floor from the shoe. However, any dirt on the floor will adhere to the bottom of the shoe covers. The covers quickly become dirty. The investigators in the video do not change their shoe covers as they walk from room to room, thus causing even more contamination of the crime scene.

I didn't even think that the footies could have messed up the crime scene. But this theorist has a valid point. It could explain how AK's DNA got up in FR's room mixed with MK's DNA or blood.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheBraClasp.html

See this dude below outside on the balcony, touching the rails with his footies on. What did he track into the house? And did he change his gloves? See the dude in the doorway behind this investigator? The one with NO protective gear on? What did he track around the house?

 

[JBean]

have you ever seen food workers use the same gloves over and over, as if that would keep germs from transferring? Of course it doesn't. It just sticks to the gloves and they spread it around that way.
Same with a crime scene. touch this touch that walk on this walk on that. spreads evrything everywhere.

 

[sherlockh]

What I am missing from the defense is a video showing somebody climbing up to that window. They made a video of a rock going through a window. I saw a pic of somebody standing on the small window, but somebody actually climbing up is what I am missing. It is a small window to climb up to and pretty high from the ground. About half way I am guessing. I don't even know how one should pull themselves up on such a small window. Maybe it is possible by jumping up the window and then slamming your face into the wall..lol.. The window next to it (AK's) seems even easier to climb up as that window below is long and starts from the ground. It is not so strange that even from the AK support sites I see explanations like RG came swinging in from the side (where the front door is) or even RG came swinging in from the roof

 

[wasnt_me]

@SMK.
Yes, that post shows the postal police arriving at 12:58 AFTER driving around looking for the cottage for a bit IMO. RS's call ends at 12:55... Don't believe they would have expected them that fast. My opinion is that RS saw them driving around looking for the cottage.

The problem is, there's a story claiming that RS went in the house and sneaked to call the police AFTER the PP arrived. I think that the time stamps are showing that this conspiracy theory is not possible, because he had called the police before the PP arrived. Whether he happened to see them driving around is another story, BUT with this time clock fix, we can rule out the notion that he sneaked away to call the police while amanda was distracting the Postal Police.

 

[wasnt_me]

What I am missing from the defense is a video showing somebody climbing up to that window. They made a video of a rock going through a window. I saw a pic of somebody standing on the small window, but somebody actually climbing up is what I am missing. It is a small window to climb up to and pretty high from the ground. About half way I am guessing. I don't even know how one should pull themselves up on such a small window. Maybe it is possible by jumping up the window and then slamming your face into the wall..lol.. The window next to it (AK's) seems even easier to climb up as that window below is long and starts from the ground. It is not so strange that even from the AK support sites I see explanations like RG came swinging in from the side (where the front door is) or even RG came swinging in from the roof

It's only 13ft off the ground. if you're 6ft tall, you're just about half way there. And if you've got this window below, which I don't know how tall this window it, but let's give it 4ft like the others, plus maybe 3 feet from the ground, there's another 7 feet and you are now eye level in the room. I don't know rudy's height, but he was a basketball player, so....

The pictures make it look high, but when look at it from all angles, it starts to not look so high. Look at this guy in this picture:

I don't know how tall this guy is, but look at where he is standing on this iron grate that is on the other window below. Then notice how high he already seems. His shoulders just about level witht he window and he's not even standing up straight yet. Wiat till he takes that next step up and then straighten himself up. He'd be able to stare into the room and scare the mess out of anyone that was standing in there. I suppose the hardest part would be to hoist yourself up in there, but it's most likely like doing a pull up while exercising, know what I mean?

Now look at this picture:

The arrow in the picture points to a scuff mark that the theorist believes Rudy made as he climbed up there.

Now look at this picture:

These are clothes with dust from that wall on them. The dust came from the bottom of RG's feet after scuffing that wall to get into the room. In a zoomed out picture, you'll see these clothes piled up along the wall, which proves they were there on the messy floor and FR really has a loose theory of what a neat and tidy room is.


There are other theories about him reaching around to the window from the front porch, but I don't know about those.