Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police #3

[SewingDeb]

MollyMalone,

The answer to one of our questions is in the article you linked:

Fifty-one women – those without children or those with children over 5 – were bused back to the compound, and six women asked to go to a nearby women's shelter.

 

[CarpeDiem]

The women on camera sure have that "stay sweet" thing down to a science...It's VERY SCARY to me...............closest thing I have ever seen to Stepford Wives

It is a really strange thing to watch and listen to them. And you can tell which one's are sister wives (married to the same Man) because their hairstyles will be the same in front. Some have this side swept thing, others have it manipulated like some type of crown thing, other families with the elaborate, tight french braids with the ends folded differently than another 'family'. :waitasec:

 

[SewingDeb]

I noticed that this is missing from the article linked by MollyMalone:

"Mr. Azar said some of the children in their custody do not even appear to have parents in Texas, let alone at the Eldorado compound, and that it will take DNA testing to determine who’s related to whom."

They must have updated the article.

 

[CarpeDiem]

MollyMalone,

The answer to one of our questions is in the article you linked:

Fifty-one women – those without children or those with children over 5 – were bused back to the compound, and six women asked to go to a nearby women's shelter.

On Greta's show last night, it was said those 6 whom went to the women's shelter are also back at the compound. When they didn't immediately get the kid's back because they were at the shelter, they left it.

 

[SewingDeb]

Oh no!

 

[golfmom]

Watching the interviews with the mothers is strange. A lot of boo-hooing, and as soon as question is asked about child brides or polygamy, quit crying, they start giving reporters the evil eye and refuse to answer any questions.

 

[Hopeful One]

On Greta's show last night, it was said those 6 whom went to the women's shelter are also back at the compound. When they didn't immediately get the kid's back because they were at the shelter, they left it.

No!! That makes me so sad!!!!

 

[Jules]

On Greta's show last night, it was said those 6 whom went to the women's shelter are also back at the compound. When they didn't immediately get the kid's back because they were at the shelter, they left it.

Makes you wonder if some were picked to stay in hopes of maintaining some control over the kids and what they might say.

I wonder if the 6 were older or young? My guess is they were older.

:furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[golfmom]

Following the money trail . . . records pulled from Eldorado may help with the financial accounting and theft from the UEP Trust.

http://www.kingmandailyminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&subsectionID=1&articleID=15064

Already, lawyers for the court-controlled United Effort Plan Trust want to see some of that evidence.

"We're taking steps to get those documents," said Jeffrey L. Shields, a lawyer for the UEP Trust. "It may not relate to the kids, but it may relate to the trust."

The UEP Trust was the financial arm of the FLDS Church until it was taken over by a judge in Salt Lake City's 3rd District Court in 2005 over allegations that Jeffs and other FLDS leaders mismanaged it. Shields said the former trustees for the UEP have not given them a single piece of paper about how the trust was managed. The court-appointed accountant now in charge of the UEP Trust also has an $8.8 million judgment against Jeffs and the FLDS Church.

"We have a judgment against the church. It may relate to some of the assets there," Shields said Thursday.

Lawyers for former members of the FLDS Church who are suing Jeffs and the church also wouldn't mind seeing what was seized.

 

[mysteriew]

Watching the interviews with the mothers is strange. A lot of boo-hooing, and as soon as question is asked about child brides or polygamy, quit crying, they start giving reporters the evil eye and refuse to answer any questions.

What makes me the maddest is that all the while they are on camera boohooing about how badly they were treated and how hard it is without the children, they know like we know that while they were with the children they wouldn't even identify them and claim them as their own. Does that sound like mothers who want their children?

 

[mostlylurking]

What makes me the maddest is that all the while they are on camera boohooing about how badly they were treated and how hard it is without the children, they know like we know that while they were with the children they wouldn't even identify them and claim them as their own. Does that sound like mothers who want their children?

Well, unfortunately, yes. Given how they have been brainwashed and manipulated themselves, these type of responses seem to be what is ingrained in them for how to handle things.

One (I) would hope that after the kids are placed in foster care (which seems imminent to me) that the mothers who fess up to which kids are theirs and if they become willing to leave the sect, would be placed in family/parenting classes & counseling to counter the brainwashing & allowed supervised visits with the kids & would have to prove that they left the FLDS. Then, I would consider letting them earn their kids back according to the expected rules of parenting in our society -- with long extended time to do so. (Not in like 6 months or something short, I mean.)

 

[golfmom]

What makes me the maddest is that all the while they are on camera boohooing about how badly they were treated and how hard it is without the children, they know like we know that while they were with the children they wouldn't even identify them and claim them as their own. Does that sound like mothers who want their children?

No, it doesn't to me myst. Dabbing their dry eyes isn't garnering my sympathy.

 

[cheko1]

No, it doesn't to me myst. Dabbing their dry eyes isn't garnering my sympathy.

No sympathy from me either....
All I seen was pathetic, miserable attempts to conceal what has been happening there. When they started saying this is the USA & look what is happening to us? I wanted to slap them & say your not a part of the USA you live in a compound & it is 'your choice' to brutalize the kids.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/sp...ntent_id=2101550f-c281-4c50-8c34-a7d3213a5035

2News will start LIVE coverage from Texas of a large child custody case, involving children removed from a polygamist compound.

2News' Mark Koelbel will begin LIVE reports from San Angelo, Texas beginning Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. -- and will contribute through the night and on Thursday.

 

[Moe]

Mine either, they are obviously lying something the mothers most likely are not used to doing based on what a bad job of it they are doing.

 

[mollymalone]

Is this documented? I believe this may be overstating a little bit.

There are 50,000 evangelical polygamists in the U.S. alongside the numbers of flds and other polygamist groups.

 

[mollymalone]

MollyMalone,

The answer to one of our questions is in the article you linked:

Fifty-one women – those without children or those with children over 5 – were bused back to the compound, and six women asked to go to a nearby women's shelter.

Yes, and this article tells how many were told they could stay with the younger children.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5703058.html

At least 82 women, all of whom have children ranging in ages from newborn to four years, were told they could remain with their children at the San Angelo coliseum. The other 57 women were told they could return to the sect's Yearning for Zion Ranch near Eldorado, or go to another safe location.

 

[mollymalone]

When I turned on Fox this AM, they were interviewing 3 women from the ranch. Everything they said sounded scripted and rehearsed, and they would only talk about how the children needed their mothers and how terrible the separation was and how badly they were treated.

Wasn't that weird? The journalists found it jarring.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4659164&page=1
Between hysterical sobs, the women of the Yearning for Zion Ranch in rural Texas tearily pleaded Monday for the return of their children from state custody, "but at the mere turn of a phrase, those tears mysteriously, uniformly stopped."When conversations with reporters shifted away from the 416 children in state custody toward touchier subjects surrounding the mysterious religious sect, the overflowing emotions were quickly replaced with blank stares and terse replies. "the women stuck to monotone, emotionless responses in declining to answer reporters' questions concerning allegations of plural marriages and sexual assault within the sect."

The shift to blank-faced denial was jarring in both its immediacy and consistency. Not a single one strayed from the script, an impressive display of solidarity"

 

[golfmom]

Yep, Molly I saw the interview. They kept dabbing their dry eyes with tissues.

 

[mollymalone]

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/sp...ntent_id=2101550f-c281-4c50-8c34-a7d3213a5035

2News will start LIVE coverage from Texas of a large child custody case, involving children removed from a polygamist compound.

2News' Mark Koelbel will begin LIVE reports from San Angelo, Texas beginning Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. -- and will contribute through the night and on Thursday.

Thanks for the link!!

Regarding Sarah:

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8941294
One night, shortly before midnight, child welfare workers came into the dorm where the mothers with small children were and told this specific Sarah that she and her baby had to leave. In a phone call later, Sarah told other mothers she and her baby were sent to a house, alone, at Fort Concho, Annette and other women said.

On Tuesday, 51st District Judge Barbara Walther rejected an attempt by this Sarah's family to have her recognized as an adult so she could be represented by a private attorney rather than an attorney ad litem.