Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police

[chiperoni]

I pray there is some way to prosecute more leaders and disband these sects in the US. So much harm and abuse has occurred especially with innocent children. If the children leave the sect they are in a strange world with no education and often without their mother. Most of the children who have left have experienced distant oppressive fathers who kick out their sons and arrange pedophile marriages. It's a very politically layered society. Morally corrupt men have assumed power claiming personal messages from God and cut their people off from God if they don't obey.
Women are naturally encouraged to compete for favor with their husbands. Not all the families are like this but even the "normal" ones are at the mercy of the power structure and well-intentioned fathers cannot even protect their own daughters. Jeffs has been prosecuted but what about the rest? There is a lot of money and property involved. If the federal courts could disband these sects before any more harm is done many children could be saved from mental , sexual, and physical child abuse. Child abuse takes place in the shadows.

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.myeldorado.net/

School buses and buses from First Baptist Church of Eldorado were used Friday and Saturday to transport 183 persons from the YFZ Ranch. Of that number, 137 were said to be children 17 years and younger. The remainder were adult women. All were taken to the Schleicher County Civic Center where the children were turned over to Child Protective Services.

 

[barb0301]

The latest from the El Dorado paper at 6pm CDT says that 3 ambulances were seen heading past the law enforcement checkpoint to the compound.

The San Angelo paper is reporting that the leaders at the compound have now refused to allow LE to enter the temple in their search for the 16 year old who first reported the abuse.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/183-removed-from-flds-compound-so-far/

http://www.myeldorado.net/

I am worried about the safety of the 16 year old. If she is not out yet, she is in extreme danger.

 

[SuziQ]

The latest from the El Dorado paper at 6pm CDT says that 3 ambulances were seen heading past the law enforcement checkpoint to the compound.

That doesn't sound good. Thanks for the update.

 

[concernedperson]

That really doesn't sound good. I hope she is OK.

 

[believe09]

So now she is in a hostage situation? What was the point of that? They think LE and CPS will return the kids with that kind of behavior???

Now I would really, truly worry about murder/suicide...let's hope some of the people who left the ranch can provide a picture of what might be going on inside of the temple. I cannot imagine that the temple cannot be entered if there is probable cause to think that something is happening in there...or perhaps I am misreading the stories.

 

[Linda7NJ]

nevermind..I am bothering to read BOTH links provided

 

[SuziQ]

LE was doing a door to door search today with the intent of removing every single child from the ranch.

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/565176.html

 

[SuziQ]

Authorities are preparing for a nightmare scenario as they continue to seek access to the temple at the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' ranch near Eldorado.
Ambulances are being brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound. (more at link)

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/05/authorities-prepare-for-worst-in-efforts-to-area/

 

[Pepper]

Mormons, whether traditional or FLDS do not allow regular folk inside their temples once the temple is dedicated. So I imagine they will go to any length to keep the non FLDS out. This could get ugly. I wonder why the news channels aren't covering it?

 

[sherri79]

Mormons, whether traditional or FLDS do not allow regular folk inside their temples once the temple is dedicated. So I imagine they will go to any length to keep the non FLDS out. This could get ugly. I wonder why the news channels aren't covering it?

turn the child over and end it if they do not want anyone in their temple imo.

 

[SuziQ]

I've been wondering myself why newscrews haven't swamped that place.

 

[barb0301]

I've been wondering myself why newscrews haven't swamped that place.

Same question here ! I live about 150 miles from there, and the nearest large commercial airport would be in San Antonio. With the NCAA Final Four here this weekend, flights in/out for outsiders would be hard to come by. I imagine local stations from here, Dallas, Houston may be on their way now. It is way out in the boonies, nearest mid-size place to stay would be San Angelo.

This could turn out to be a real nightmare. Sure hope to see a peaceful resolution overnight.

 

[Pepper]

Fax news had a teaser about it a couple of minutes ago, so I think they are going to cover it during this hour.

 

[Pepper]

On right now!

 

[believe09]

I thought they had the compound pretty well sealed off from media and lurkers...I am sure that the idea of the media filming anything that might evolve into a WACO was squashed from the get go.

Then they should bring in a Mormon to search the temple then....I know there are pockets of LDS all over TX- Riley Sawyer aka Baby Grace was murdered by her stepfather who was LDS along with the rest of his extended family...just to give you an example, not to compare the two situations or make a judgment about LDS.

 

[barb0301]

Interesting articles w/ some pictures:

http://blogs.sltrib.com/plurallife/

http://www.sltrib.com/

Also, check out this blog:

http://texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/

 

[froggierintexas]

I sure hope the young lady who made the report is safe and far away from these people.
I have a question for anyone who is learned on the subject. I know that FLDS women tend to look a certain way and their attire and hair seems to always look identical. Does the same go for LDS women? The reason I ask is that in the last four years I know that I have seen the same group of women and girls and young boys shopping in one of our local stores more times than I can count. And the frequency has really increased to a noticable degree. When you smile and say hi they look at you as if you are the Devil himself. Except for the really curious young kids. And I tend to smile and say Hi to everyone I encounter in a day. Anyway, I wonder if they are FLDS. I also find it odd that they all pile in a van or a truck bed with a man that is waiting in the lot.

 

[Truly]

I have a question, too.

Why, when some Perverted Old Freaks (POF) sexually abuse children in the name of religion, do people break out the kid gloves instead of reacting with absolute outrage as they do in all the other threads about child sexual abuse?

Is there something in the bible that says that creepy old dudes have some right to Eff their young daughters? Does anybody here agree that creepy old dudes should have any right to force a young girl to have sex with her older male relatives? Speak up, anybody who actually believes that a creepy old man has the right to rape and molest children in the name of his religion.

If that is his religion, then his religion is a lie.

 

[concernedperson]

I have a question, too.

Why, when some Perverted Old Freaks (POF) sexually abuse children in the name of religion, do people break out the kid gloves instead of reacting with absolute outrage as they do in all the other threads about child sexual abuse?

Is there something in the bible that says that creepy old dudes have some right to Eff their young daughters? Does anybody here agree that creepy old dudes should have any right to force a young girl to have sex with her older male relatives? Speak up, anybody who actually believes that a creepy old man has the right to rape and molest children in the name of his religion.

If that is his religion, then his religion is a lie.

Nope, he is a common sexual pervert and belongs in jail. Period.