Warren Jeffs FLDS compound in Texas surrounded by police

[Jules]

It doesn't appear so. It sounds like maybe the girl phoned a local DV shelter for help which started this event.

They can't confirm that yet.

Thanks Ladies! I couldn't tell from one of the posts above.

 

[SuziQ]

video of the presser:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3037562

ETA: it takes a long time for the vid to start

 

[sherri79]

my quote was sarcasm....thought the rolly eyes got that point across for me.....***sigh***

hey don't blame me. i have asked repeatedly for a special font for sarcasm. sorry i misunderstood you.

 

[BarnGoddess]

Thanks for that link. So, the FDLS has been taught that April 6th is the day the world will end. I hope there was no attempt at a big Jonestown Kool-aide suicide. Now I am even more worried about the boy children.

Here's a link within the childbrides.org site I gave earlier. We should be worried about the boys, IMO. The "Lost Boys" story is tragic.

http://www.childbrides.org/boys.html

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They are just young men (mostly young teenagers) who have become competition to the older men who want more (and usually much younger) wives. They are kicked out of their homes and run out of town. They often leave with just the shirts on their backs. Most have minimum education and few life-skills. But, the Prophet said that they must go away. So their parents cast them out like unwanted pets. Now, they are out on the street trying to fend for themselves. They are known as the "Lost Boys".

 

[Tranaice]

What do you see happening here, Glow?

I see a cult with armed guards wearing night vision goggles preventing anyone from entering or exiting. I see aged pedophiles forcing young girls to break the laws of the State of Texas by forcing them to marry their own fathers and uncles before the girls have even reached the age of legal consent.

I see busloads of young girls. What has become of all the young boys? I have read that the boys are taken and dropped off in the desert so that the creepy old pedophiles can rape and impregnate all of the young girls without any young men around to interfere. I have read that they expel the young boys and only permit them to return when they have brought back their own 'first wife' from the 'outside world'. I read that the pedophile-in-chief can then expel the young man again and 'reassign' his new wife and her children to one of the creepy old pedophiles.

What exactly bothers you about this? Is it the fact that the Pedophile Cult calls itself a 'religion'?

I am all about civil liberties. But this is a case of pedophiles holding children in armed compounds for the purpose of using them as sexual slaves. Nothing could be done to help the kids until someone who was harmed came forth. Then the warrants were issued and the search proceeded according to law.

What precedent are you concerned about setting here? Did you object when Shawn Hornbeck was rescued from his sexually abusive captor? To me, it is similar. The kids cannot escape on their own, and they deserve to be rescued from pedophiles.

Amen Truly!

 

[barb0301]

Here's a link within the childbrides.org site I gave earlier. We should be worried about the boys, IMO. The "Lost Boys" story is tragic.

I agree with you - I'm scared to death worrying about where all these boys could be. Where in the world could they have taken them? I mean, it's not like a big city out there - miles and miles of NOTHING !!

I can tell you one thing for sure, my 14 year old son is getting an extra hug and kiss every chance I get over the next several days ! All my kids are when I see them !

 

[barb0301]

video of the presser:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3037562

ETA: it takes a long time for the vid to start

oh thank you, thank you !!! :blowkiss:

 

[golfmom]

This is an older article, but has some incredible information regarding the lost boys. What I found interesting was the church's argument as to why abandoning small children is acceptable:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy250.html

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The church doesn't argue some of the boys were shown the door, but maintains it's no one else's business. Rodney Parker, a church attorney, said all religions have a First Amendment right to decide who can be a member. The age of the excommunicated doesn't matter. "There is no exception in the First Amendment for minors," he said.

 

[SuziQ]

Much more info regarding the documents filed today:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA040808.01A.polygamistraid.3a416e5.html

 

[golfmom]

From Suzi's link, we now know why they were relocating to Texas, Rep. Hilderbran slipped in a fast one and got the law changed to protect the child brides!

In 2005, the sect's relocation to his district prompted Rep. Harvey Hilderbran, R-Kerrville, to push for changes in the marriage law, including increasing the minimum age at which teenagers can marry to 16, if they get parental consent or a court order. Previous law allowed someone as young as 14 to get married with parental consent.

"Had this bill not passed, there would have been quite a few of them that were married and were pregnant for instance &#8212; or married with kids &#8212; that were under 16, that they could not have done much about," Hilderbran said. "I've got some pride in it. It's one of those things I knew it was the right thing to do."

 

[NewMommy09]

these are incredible stories...children and wives reassigned

Watch this and you'll understand why they will have so much trouble identifying these children and their fathers.........insanity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPJPHIx590&feature=related

I'm sure there are no records of most of the births within this "cult" religion for decades back. Not to mention there is no telling if these child brides are used only for the pleasure of their husbands or for any man. Half of them probably don't even know who fathered their children.

 

[concernedperson]

Much more info regarding the documents filed today:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA040808.01A.polygamistraid.3a416e5.html

The way they use these children is despicable. Yes, they are children not adults even though they are teens. They were not raised with any knowledge of the world and what was being done to them was seen as the norm instead of the perversion it was. This young girl who called is the bravest of the brave for taking a chance someone would listen. It had to gnaw and scare her to make this call. She probably saved many lives by making this call.

 

[SuziQ]

Thank goodness! At the below link is a pic of teenage boys.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348148,00.html

 

[Taximom]

From an email alert:
Larry King Live at 9:00pm ET
on Tuesday, April 8, 2008

CNN Tonight: Primetime Exclusive: Inside Polygamy Ranch Raid

Tonight, Larry has a primetime exclusive
with former polygamist cult members!
Go inside the Texas ranch raid where
underage girls forced into marriage, and
now hundreds of children have been removed.
Their secret lives revealed!

But first, Senator John Kerry sounds off on the
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Hear what he has to say about General
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**THEY really do ask questions people send in. They asked one of mine once on his show. If anyone has questions, email them!!**

 

[Taximom]

Gosh, we just hit over 400 comments on this topic alone. That number of children alone boggles my mind.

 

[barb0301]

Thank goodness! At the below link is a pic of teenage boys.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348148,00.html

AMEN !!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thanks for the link !!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What I cannot fathom is why it took the government decades and decades to stop this horrendous abuse? All I can say...it is about time!! Thank God for the girl who did make this call. She changed the world.

 

[golfmom]

What I cannot fathom is why it took the government decades and decades to stop this horrendous abuse? All I can say...it is about time!! Thank God for the girl who did make this call. She changed the world.

I think that really had more to do with Texas. Looks like boys and girls have been making complaints for years ... been accused as just runaways, and returned back to their "families".

 

[SuziQ]

AMEN !!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thanks for the link !!!

You're welcome. I am so relieved. I was starting to get frantic from worrying about them.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm still hunting down for the actual documents filed today. I love how it's stated, IIRC, that male children are victims because they are forced to become child predators when they grown up.